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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Hawkmoon on August 13, 2014, 08:01:25 PM
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Or masks ...
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/googles-satellites-could-soon-see-your-face-from-space
I think the technology that allows reading a license plate from a satellite in space is pretty amazing, but I'm not sure I feel comfortable with a bunch of for-profit companies having the ability to read the headline on my morning newspaper.
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You walk around with your face turned to the sky constantly?
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Or masks ...
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/googles-satellites-could-soon-see-your-face-from-space
I think the technology that allows reading a license plate from a satellite in space is pretty amazing, but I'm not sure I feel comfortable with a bunch of for-profit companies having the ability to read the headline on my morning newspepr.
Tell them to get their own interner subscription, just like everybody else.
I thought copying off your neighbor's paper went out in the 7th grade.
stay safe.
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Now that face could break the Goooooooogle satellites for sure.
Other alternatives:
http://tommytoy.typepad.com/tommy-toy-pbt-consultin/stealth-and-camouflage-technology/
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I already wear hats. I cut my hair so short so frequently in the Army the hairs on my head refused to leave the follicles out of fear. So I had them all shot out of hand for cowardice.
Thus, the necessity for a head cover. I am currently loving my safari-shaped panama hat that I bought at Meyer the Hatter in New Orleans.
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Its effectively impossible to read a license plate (roughly 1cm resolution) or even ROUGHLY see a face (about the same) from orbit.
Real simple math: resolution is 2.44 lambda/D * Range. For pan imaging , lambda is 1/2 millionth of a meter, range is 300,000-600,000 meters, meaning to get to 1cm resolution, the MINIMUM aperture is 37 meters. And that's assuming perfect atmospheric correction...which is difficult at best.
I hate articles like this that imply some sort of moore's law for physical things, e.g. "Its 25cm now, and maybe 10cm in the future, so they will be able to X sooner than you think"
Yeah...right...
Considering the largest optical quality mirror EVER built is an equivalent of 10-20m (multiple 8m diameter mirrors phased together) and that was on earth...I'm sure an aperture 15x the diameter of Hubble is right around the corner....
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So, B'man, you're telling me that it's still safe to go outside without a wide-brim hat? That's a relief.
Thank you for the explanation (even though it's pretty much out of my league).
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I already wear hats. I cut my hair so short so frequently in the Army the hairs on my head refused to leave the follicles out of fear. So I had them all shot out of hand for cowardice.
Thus, the necessity for a head cover. I am currently loving my safari-shaped panama hat that I bought at Meyer the Hatter in New Orleans.
When you start losing your hair in your early 20's, say the heck with it and start head shaving at age 40, you start to accumulate a large number of hats. Much like reading glasses, I have emergency hats stashed all over the place. And this is for Seattle, where seeing the sun is a notable event. If I lived in more southern climes, I would probably have a hat spot welded to my head.
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Its effectively impossible to read a license plate (roughly 1cm resolution) or even ROUGHLY see a face (about the same) from orbit.
Real simple math: resolution is 2.44 lambda/D * Range. For pan imaging , lambda is 1/2 millionth of a meter, range is 300,000-600,000 meters, meaning to get to 1cm resolution, the MINIMUM aperture is 37 meters. And that's assuming perfect atmospheric correction...which is difficult at best.
I hate articles like this that imply some sort of moore's law for physical things, e.g. "Its 25cm now, and maybe 10cm in the future, so they will be able to X sooner than you think"
Yeah...right...
Considering the largest optical quality mirror EVER built is an equivalent of 10-20m (multiple 8m diameter mirrors phased together) and that was on earth...I'm sure an aperture 15x the diameter of Hubble is right around the corner....
I play with aerial images quite a bit in ArcGIS, you are very much spot on.
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Its effectively impossible to read a license plate (roughly 1cm resolution) or even ROUGHLY see a face (about the same) from orbit.
Real simple math: resolution is 2.44 lambda/D * Range. For pan imaging , lambda is 1/2 millionth of a meter, range is 300,000-600,000 meters, meaning to get to 1cm resolution, the MINIMUM aperture is 37 meters. And that's assuming perfect atmospheric correction...which is difficult at best.
I hate articles like this that imply some sort of moore's law for physical things, e.g. "Its 25cm now, and maybe 10cm in the future, so they will be able to X sooner than you think"
Yeah...right...
Considering the largest optical quality mirror EVER built is an equivalent of 10-20m (multiple 8m diameter mirrors phased together) and that was on earth...I'm sure an aperture 15x the diameter of Hubble is right around the corner....
You mean that TV and the movies have been LYING TO US this whole time?!? :O
Could they do it with a distributed array? And would it be 18.5*pi m2 worth of mirrors (thus = a mega-crapload of satellites over an area larger than that) or something less than that (a lesser-crapload)?
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You mean that TV and the movies have been LYING TO US this whole time?!? :O
Could they do it with a distributed array? And would it be 18.5*pi m2 worth of mirrors (thus = a mega-crapload of satellites over an area larger than that) or something less than that (a lesser-crapload)?
The issue isn't mirror size, the size I gave wasn't 37 square meters, it was 37m diameter!
Distributed could help, but the issue is the atmosphere. The atmospheric effects pretty much limit it to an equivalent mirror size of 3-4m (and possibly less), distributed makes that worse, as each path would need its own compensation.
Basically, while not technically impossible....its really really really hard.
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Basically, while not technically impossible....its really really really hard.
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When you start losing your hair in your early 20's, say the heck with it and start head shaving at age 40, you start to accumulate a large number of hats. Much like reading glasses, I have emergency hats stashed all over the place. And this is for Seattle, where seeing the sun is a notable event. If I lived in more southern climes, I would probably have a hat spot welded to my head.
In HS I had a full head of hair. I just cut it short. And working outside all day one day in summer in the south burned my head & top of my ears so bad my scalp peeled and the top of my ears blistered. Only had to do that once.
I have a bunch of hats, too. From gungy boonie hats for working around the house to very nice fedoras worn with formal clothing. Panamas/straws/canvas for summer. Wool/felt for the winter.
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Panamas/straws/canvas for summer.
Any suggestions? I'd like to get something for the summer, but my wife always complains that they are old man hats. She likes my boonie hats, but unless I'm out in the boonies, they just make me feel like this guy:
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What to do?
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Any suggestions? I'd like to get something for the summer, but my wife always complains that they are old man hats. She likes my boonie hats, but unless I'm out in the boonies, they just make me feel like this guy:
http://i.imgur.com/NBrA3kU.jpg
What to do?
Go for Hipster!
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The issue isn't mirror size, the size I gave wasn't 37 square meters, it was 37m diameter!
Distributed could help, but the issue is the atmosphere. The atmospheric effects pretty much limit it to an equivalent mirror size of 3-4m (and possibly less), distributed makes that worse, as each path would need its own compensation.
Basically, while not technically impossible....its really really really hard.
pi*r^2 is still the formula for surface are, yes?
Ah - I see. I missed the ^2 for the 18.5m somehow. Yes, I was trying for surface area there based on your 37m diameter mirror, just didn't make it all the way due to failure to properly type it.
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It's not the satellite.
Watch for arrays of CCD's on a drone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfSbdAC-3k
As solid-state lasers improve and shrink, someday it might be possible for the average (cough) er... hobbyist to set up a LIDAR that scans the sky with a low power sweep, and if it gets any return reflections that have been shaped by camera lenses looking at it, it replies with a 10kW pulse, just enough to fry the sensor. =)
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fistful:
Yeah, avoid the hipster look and stingy brims in general. You want some brim to protect you from the elements. Also avoid baseball caps unless you are a kid or playing a baseball cap appropriate sport. Ball caps are for kids and/or playtime. Adults wear grownup hats.
My hat-wearing and hats divide out into several categories, with different sorts of hats appropriate to them.
Outdoor Work / Recreation
Cotton/cotton-blend boonie caps are great for this. Everything from GI/GI-ish ripstop cotton/nylon bought at the army/navy store up to nice renditions made by Tilley. I own two T3 Tilleys, a khaki/olive underbrim and an all-olive deal.
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For nasty outside work, I run toward the GI boonie due to its lighter construction. For recreation, the Tilleys. For cold weather recreation, a Tilley with a wool watch cap under it works well. Tilleys are odd in that you buy it a size or so too big and use the front and/or rear strap to keep it on your head. In the cold, this allows for a wool watch cap, so you get sun/rain protection from the Tilley and warmth from the watch cap.
The GI boonie caps I will wear in public only while actively working a project and already in work gear, filthy, etc. Tilleys can be worn and look decent with decent clothes up to dressy casual...if your Tilley is not filthy & sweat-stained.
I think I paid $12 for my last GI boonie and $75 for my last Tilley. The Tilley is the smarter buy, as it will outlast several boonies, but sometimes a light boonie is the best answer.
Warm Weather, Dry
Panama hats for the win. A close runner up are Milan Straw and Milan Straw hats made from hemp.
There are many shapes/styles. One can be found to suit you & your wife's sensibilities. These can be worn in everything from shorts & a t-shirt up to a nice suit. I prefer fedora, safari, or shantung styles with a generous brim. The nicest looking and best for beating the heat is the Panama. But, Panamas and Milan Straws made from straw are more delicate. You must put them on your head with two hands holding the brim only and not the crown or you will wear out the crown material and cause it to crack eventually. And you can not crush them. They will stay crushed and busted. Milan Straws made from hemp are not as likely to crack in the crown and will more readily bounce back if you crush them. They may need re-shaping, but the material is tough and resilient.
I currently own all three sorts (Panama, Milan Straw, Milan Straw in hemp). Now that my kids are a bit older and not likely to just jump on or inadvertently smoosh my hats, I wear mostly the Panama. Just plain the best warm & dry weather hat if you don't want to wear a western straw-type hat (which are not my style). My straw Milan Straw needs re-shaping, as it got caught in the car in the summer for a couple days and got mis-shapen. My hemp Milan straw also needs re-shaping & some lacquer because I got caught in the rain with it.
Dorfman Pacific produces many brands/lines of decent hats, to include Panamas & Milan Straws. Capas produces somewhat nicer hats than DP. Capas and the better producers will get the hat material from S American and build to suit. Like with felt fedoras and cowboy hats, you can go up, up, up in price & schmancyness.
The cheapest Panamas & Milans go for ~$35. I can not recommend them. Too flimsy and will last a summer, maybe. If you are in a tight spot, they will do the trick, though, and are cheaper than a sun burn on your head. Mid-line is around $50 to $75. This is mid-line Dorfman Pacific brands territory ( http://www.dorfman-pacific.com/ ). Good value here. Best value is in the ~$100 range, where the Capas Panamas reside. The better DP brands are here, too. Capas is a bit better, DP brands provide more selection. For instance, this is about the price for a Stetson (DP) brand hemp Milan Straw, which is probably the best value in the DP line.
Panama Hat Styles
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=panama+hat+styles&qpvt=panama+hat+styles&FORM=IGRE
One shape is bound to work for you. Milans can be shaped in similar styles, but don't hold the shape as well as a Panama. "Crushable" and "travel" variations will be softer and not hold shape as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_hat
Capas Panama, Safari-Style
http://www.meyerthehatter.com/CAPAS-PANAMA-SAFARI-HAT/PAOHADAMHCDPIKCH/Product
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Mine is the lighter "Natural" color.
Stetson hemp Milan Straw
http://www.villagehatshop.com/product/straw-hats/451139-5269/stetson-bristol-hemp-milan-fedora-hat.html
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I found this at a local custom hat shop and had them re-shape it to a safari-style. http://www.pbhats.com/
FTR, "Safari-Style" has a brim not quite as wide as the widest fedoras (turned down), an indented crown, and a pinch.
Also, for ready-made hats, sizing can be a problem if there are too few sizes. For me, a lot of Dorfman Pacific Large size hats are too small and constrict my head too much, but Extra Large are too big to stay secured. The solution is simple. Get some 1/4-3/8" or so thick soft foam weather stripping with one sticky side. Cut a 4-6" long strip. Fold down the hats sweat band from the inside. Place inside the sweat band, sticky side against inside of the hat. Fld up sweat band. Go on your way. Replace every couple years if need be.
Warm Weather, Wet
Panamas & Milans are great when it is dry, not so much for when it is wet. For this, I prefer a cotton cotton/duck hat hosed down with silicone spray. A Tilley cotton duck hat will do the trick. A lighter/cooler option that will go with nicer clothes is a twill hat. Stetson/DP has a nice safari-style / Eugene twill.
http://www.meyerthehatter.com/STETSON-STC61-EUGENE-CLOTH-SAFARI-HAT/PABOAAKCMPCPMAKA/Product
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Mine is khaki. You can also get something like this in an outback/australian style with more brim.
These are not as cool on your head as a Panama or a Milan, but they will keep the rain off your head. They can be worn when it is colder for this reason. They are also more tolerant of abuse and will bounce back from most inadvertent smooshings. Also pretty cheap at $40 or so. That is a lot of utility for $40.
DP also produces a weathered cotton hat that is nice and will take silicone hosing.
Cold Weather
I find the crushable/travel wool/felt Scala/DP hats in Safari and Outback styles suit me best. Safari for around town, Outback for in the woods or more recreation. The Outback style has more brim. I also added a strap to mine to keep it on my head in case I walk into a tree or something. Mine are both black
These shed water & snow awfully well. Have not had to use silicone on them yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Scala-Classico-Crushable-Outback-Black/dp/B000VLYIKG
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These Scala/DP crushable felts are very popular and available in beau coup variations of style, hat band, etc. They run around ~$50 or so and are a great value. I have not worn one out yet, but I have lost or had them stolen.
I also have an old Tilley wool Winter Hat. I don't think it is made anymore, or at least not the same way. I wear this when it is very cold and the wind is biting. It has flip-down ear and forehead flaps and a headband that will keep it on your head in the wind. Awesome hat. Probably too complicated & expensive to make profitably.
This looks like it, but lacks the forehead flaps and head strap:
http://www.tilley.com/us_en/tw2-classic-winter.html
Custom Hats
Here in DFW, I can get come custom hats made to order. They cost a bit more, but they look super-sharp. I wear them going to church. When it is hot, a black hemp Milan Straw, when it is cold, an olive felt fedora. Guess what style/shape? Best to know what you want & like before making the jump to a custom hat. You can pay a little more than a high quality ready-made up to whatever your limit is. Thing is, the build quality is about the same for the cheaper customs I bought. And they last a long, long time.
http://www.pbhats.com/
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Also avoid baseball caps unless you are a kid or playing a baseball cap appropriate sport. Ball caps are for kids and/or playtime. Adults wear grownup hats.
Baseball hats on adults is very acceptable in the Midwest. Its not kiddie wear here.
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So Rooster, how is the durability of a straw hat? All of my hats are either nylon, cotton, nyco, waxed cotton or felt. I have perhaps erroneously felt that straw hats are fragile and will develop holes.
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So Rooster, how is the durability of a straw hat? All of my hats are either nylon, cotton, nyco, waxed cotton or felt. I have perhaps erroneously felt that straw hats are fragile and will develop holes.
If you take care of them, they will last several seasons.
My dad has a straw Panama hat that he bought over 20 years ago in New Orleans and it is still in great shape.
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I like these: cheap and keeps its shape even if you crush it up. Black is a bit hot on really hot days though, is perfectly fine when its less than 80 out.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Clothing/Mens-Casual-Clothing/Mens-Headwear/Mens-Brimmed-Hats%7C/pc/104797080/c/104746680/sc/104448780/i/104006880/Frogg-Toggsreg-Boonie-Hat/1548312.uts?destination=%2Fcategory%2FMens-Brimmed-Hats%2F104006880.uts&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104006880#BVRRWidgetID
I have a couple of older well worn columbia hats for doing yard work.
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Not roo_ster, but my Stetson Sunblocker is still presentable (some character wear) after about 8+ years.
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This is one of my favorite hats. It helps the grandkids and other people find me in a crowd.
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fistful:
Also avoid baseball caps unless you are a kid or playing a baseball cap appropriate sport. Ball caps are for kids and/or playtime. Adults wear grownup hats.
Nope. Not going to happen. I'd wear a fscking propeller beanie before being mistaken for a Fedora Athiest. (https://www.google.com/search?q=fedora+atheist&safe=off&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LEXuU4znMcqMyATsoYGIBQ&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1535&bih=891) And associated passive-aggressive virginal neck-bearded beta-male douchebaggery.
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Nope. Not going to happen. I'd wear a fscking propeller beanie before being mistaken for a Fedora Athiest. (https://www.google.com/search?q=fedora+atheist&safe=off&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LEXuU4znMcqMyATsoYGIBQ&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1535&bih=891) And associated passive-aggressive virginal neck-bearded beta-male douchebaggery.
Feh.
Children have been known to try on grownup garb. Few then hold the garb to be responsible for any childish actions that may then ensue.
I suppose you also forego blue jeans, too, due to the unsavory sort who may wear them?
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So Rooster, how is the durability of a straw hat? All of my hats are either nylon, cotton, nyco, waxed cotton or felt. I have perhaps erroneously felt that straw hats are fragile and will develop holes.
Generally speaking, a straw hat is not as durable or as able to suffer abuse as what you listed. A cheapo straw (~$35) will last the whole warm part of the year. A middling sort, ($50-$75) a few years' warm seasons. A higher quality straw ($100+) will last indefinitely. A hemp "straw" hat will last as long or longer as those materials above as. You may need to get it re-shaped or re-blocked every few years as the lacquer wears off, but hemp is tough stuff.
They eyeball-incinerating beacon you call a "hat" will get you found, alright. Found insane.
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Go tell them about their "kid hats"...
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They eyeball-incinerating beacon you call a "hat" will get you found, alright. Found insane.
I also wear it when I go snowshoeing or XC skiing, and I tell people if they see it sticking out of the snowbank after the avalanche, they can start digging there.
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Kakadu (http://us.kakaduaustralia.com/) makes good, reasonably priced hats. I've got one of their Soaka hats, and like it very much: http://us.kakaduaustralia.com/collections/soakas-1/products/5h31-rust-the-soaka (http://us.kakaduaustralia.com/collections/soakas-1/products/5h31-rust-the-soaka)
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Baseball hats on adults is very acceptable in the Midwest. Its not kiddie wear here.
I have to agree. It's pretty much the standard where ever I have lived most of my life, at least for spring/summer/fall. It must be a working man thing ;)
I finally switched to a Stetson for most wear a few years ago, now that I have horses. I'm not a real cowboy but I'm a pretty darn good rider. But I still wear a ball cap for dirty stuff and/or running machinery where I want ear muffs.
In the winter I have a now grubby insulated ball cap style with ear flaps for most of the time. When it's really cold, I've got a carhart type rabbit fur lined bomber hat. For town etc I've got a grey wool railroad type hat with tuck in earflaps.
It's really weird to get on a plane at -20 and got off at the other end at +70 :facepalm:
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Go tell them about their "kid hats"...
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I did. I thought the pre-BDU ball caps were wretched.
The patrol cap that went with BDUs was a decent bit of kit when they were not worn by a SGM with the blocking dealy inside. The Navy & USMC versions were unnecessarily complex, though.
Not sure what the non-beret non-helmet head gear is standard nowadays. If it is a ball cap, that would be sad.
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I'm thinking about tracking down a lightweight white straw fedora and some neon yellow dye, then adding a safety-orange-and-Scotchlite band so people who don't recognize me without a hat will know it's me when I'm running.
Could make for an interesting look when I get up to the point of running a 5K.
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Nope. Not going to happen. I'd wear a fscking propeller beanie before being mistaken for a Fedora Athiest. (https://www.google.com/search?q=fedora+atheist&safe=off&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LEXuU4znMcqMyATsoYGIBQ&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1535&bih=891) And associated passive-aggressive virginal neck-bearded beta-male douchebaggery.
Yep, the non *expletive deleted*bag Fedora wearers where I live are usually quite weird and quite liberal.
Safe hats in order of safeness that will not get you public scorn or your ass kicked.
Ball cap
Watch/stocking hat
Boonie hat
Wide Brimmed Tilly hats
Wide brimmed straw hats, only in the summer month
Cowboy hat- if you are wearing the clothes/footwear to match
Hats guaranteed to get your ass kicked
Mad Bomber hats- unless its is 30 below or attending a late football game.
Fedora
Derby
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Day to day going to work or just bumming around I wear something like this.
Tan in the summer, brown or charcoal in the winter.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OSKR6U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OSKR6U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Out on the boat some kind of wide brim boonie style
I'm the one sitting
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi23.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb398%2FFLHRI-OK%2F3_19race2.jpg&hash=b00c3f08a2fc3a2165d3488352a7997a8b11eca2) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/FLHRI-OK/media/3_19race2.jpg.html)
Sadly, that hat was sacrified to the wind and lake gods later that day but we did win 2 of 3 races that afternoon.
Happy face
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi23.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb398%2FFLHRI-OK%2FCal%25202-27%2Fsatsail2.jpg&hash=6abb1bc9e0c4c6fb4bd93612289537d21016f8b6) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/FLHRI-OK/media/Cal%202-27/satsail2.jpg.html)
Working in the garden or yard work in the sun it'll be a wide brim straw.
I also have good felt fedoras and oil skin outback style for cold/wet weather.
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Yep, the non *expletive deleted* Fedora wearers where I live are usually quite weird and quite liberal.
Safe hats in order of safeness that will not get you public scorn or your ass kicked.
Ball cap
Watch/stocking hat
Boonie hat
Wide Brimmed Tilly hats
Wide brimmed straw hats, only in the summer month
Cowboy hat- if you are wearing the clothes/footwear to match
Hats guaranteed to get your ass kicked
Mad Bomber hats- unless its is 30 below or attending a late football game.
Fedora
Derby
I think you'd look good in a Derby with White framed sunglasses. :P
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I think you'd look good in a Derby with White framed sunglasses. :P
Johnny Depp I am not.
...nor Truman Capote.
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You can have my baseball cap when you pry it from my hot sweaty head.
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Baseball hats on adults is very acceptable in the Midwest. Its not kiddie wear here.
I'm pretty sure it's the same everywhere. roo_ster was being a curmudgeon, not a regionalist. He prefers a time when men were men, and women were women; and wore hats, not caps.
Hats (or caps) tend to make my head uncomfortable, so I won't wear them unless I realize some benefit. So a felt outback/Indiana Jones/wide-brimmed fedora in cooler weather, a Radar O'Reilly hat over my ears in cold weather, and potentially one o' them Panama hats to shade my noggin in the summer. Ball caps don't do any of those things very well, (except make my head hot) so I've never liked them. They sure is popular, though.
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Hats (or caps) tend to make my head uncomfortable, so I won't wear them unless I realize some benefit.
Same here, and getting thin on top, er, that is, keeping my hair cut short, means I have to wear hats lots to keep from getting head sunburn - the most painful of all the sunburns.
I generally just wear ball caps for running and for shooting. I wish I could wear a brimmed straw or felt hat for shooting, but hearing protection interferes. I wear them when hunting since I can get away with just earplugs for bird hunting. Always a brimmed hat for fishing. Straw fedora ( a real one with a wide brim, not those ones that trained apes wear that are two sizes too small) for Summer fishing, felt cowboy hat made for me by Larry the hat guy for cool weather. When I spent lots of time on boats I wore a boonie hat.
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Nope. Not going to happen. I'd wear a fscking propeller beanie before being mistaken for a Fedora Athiest. (https://www.google.com/search?q=fedora+atheist&safe=off&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LEXuU4znMcqMyATsoYGIBQ&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1535&bih=891) And associated passive-aggressive virginal neck-bearded beta-male douchebaggery.
Followed your link, and buried amongst the furry necks and hats was this gem:
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi557.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss19%2FConservativeHideout%2F969381_507896279285090_498509431_n.jpg&hash=524a722b9e9f92a28fde023f80dbcf3a6d12d236)
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I'm pretty sure it's the same everywhere. roo_ster was being a curmudgeon, not a regionalist.
That's going beyond curmudgeonly; he's starting to edge into the neo-Victorian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Victorian) area. :laugh:
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roo_ster, thanks for the recommendations.
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Yep, the non *expletive deleted* Fedora wearers where I live are usually quite weird and quite liberal.
Safe hats in order of safeness that will not get you public scorn or your ass kicked.
Ball cap
Watch/stocking hat
Boonie hat
Wide Brimmed Tilly hats
Wide brimmed straw hats, only in the summer month
Cowboy hat- if you are wearing the clothes/footwear to match
Hats guaranteed to get your ass kicked
Mad Bomber hats- unless its is 30 below or attending a late football game.
Fedora
Derby
I've been known to wear a fedora, from time to time. Nothin' wrong with a nice fedora.
Attack me without just cause, whatever hat I might be wearing (no, "because I thought he was a hipster!" is *NOT* just cause), and you won't like the result.
It ain't the headgear that's the problem.
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I've been known to wear a fedora, from time to time. Nothin' wrong with a nice fedora.
I wouldn't attack a guy in a fedora myself. You never know when they might be armed. :)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/14958627875_3996d6750b_z.jpg)
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I wouldn't attack a guy in a fedora myself. You never know when they might be armed. :)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/14958627875_3996d6750b_z.jpg
Not just fedoras:
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quotesworthrepeating.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F01%2FGeorge-Nelson.jpg&hash=3b46ca6b5072ea5cfaa8881c5e7f3a595e00bfa3)
George
Any a you boys know your way around
a Walther PPK?
DELMAR
Well now, that's where we cain't
help ya. I don't believe it's in
Mississippi.
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I've been known to wear a fedora, from time to time. Nothin' wrong with a nice fedora.
Attack me without just cause, whatever hat I might be wearing (no, "because I thought he was a hipster!" is *NOT* just cause), and you won't like the result.
It ain't the headgear that's the problem.
I was joking about getting your ass kicked, but you should be expected to be hassled by youngsters for wearing those hats.
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A man walks down the street wearing a fedora - you know he's not afraid of anything. :lol:
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A man walks down the street wearing a fedora - you know he's not afraid of anything. :lol:
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffatkidatcamp.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F03%2Fdont-buy-a-fedora.jpg&hash=807b3faaa87c2be80feb7f2f428bd59e46e209ed)
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What you look like = Magilla Gorilla fedora and no trenchcoat. He's doing it wrong. :)
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I was joking about getting your ass kicked, but you should be expected to be hassled by youngsters for wearing those hats.
Not my experience. But then i am not a greasy looking fedora atheist with scraggly facial hair.
And if they do think it odd i will give their opinion all the consideration it is due.
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Not my experience. But then i am not a greasy looking fedora atheist with scraggly facial hair.
And if they do think it odd i will give their opinion all the consideration it is due.
Some people are just douchebags.
I got this hat as a gift from my dad, I do wear it a bit in the winter months. I get lots of comments from women that are 15-20 years older than me how nice it is.
http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/13081?page=moose-river-hat
and yes I get comments about how crappy it is from the high school/college kid crowd.
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Won't they just get "Abby" to enhance the image? (then zoom in, change the perspective to get around an obstacle, and enhance it again?) :rofl:
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Some people are just douchebags.
I got this hat as a gift from my dad, I do wear it a bit in the winter months. I get lots of comments from women that are 15-20 years older than me how nice it is.
http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/13081?page=moose-river-hat
and yes I get comments about how crappy it is from the high school/college kid crowd.
Dang fine looking hat.
What the heck sort of high schoolers is Iowa producing these days?
I live between two public high schools, both about a mile away and encounter them all the time. Yes, the females from one dress like they aspire to hang off a brass pole and the males from the same HS like they want to be their bouncers. But no smart talk in over ten years. The other HS is more upscale and dress better, but still no lip. I don't give them a hard time, either. I figure they are dressing for their peer group.
I won't count the nearby college due to its heavily technical focus. That crowd hardly notices their own clothes, let alone others'.
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What the heck sort of high schoolers is Iowa producing these days?
Shitheads from piss poor parenting, not just Iowa and not all HS students.
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I've got a serviceable WWII Era CD helmet (WW 1 surplus) I need to clean it up and repair the head gear.
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I was joking about getting your ass kicked, but you should be expected to be hassled by youngsters for wearing those hats.
Given what they call "style", I'll take that as a compliment.