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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ron on September 15, 2014, 08:50:30 PM
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Red meat feel good partisanship editorializing on the upcoming midterms.
Plenty of laugh out loud zingers in there IMHO.
I don't consider myself a Republican any longer but seeing the Democrats finally get spanked for their over reach would certainly be satisfying. Even if the worthless Republicans were the beneficiary.
http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2014/09/15/there-is-a-conservative-wave-coming-in-november-n1891014/page/full
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Plus, right now Barack Obama is about as popular as Bob Crane at a Southern Baptist convention.
Wow, who under 55 is going to get that reference?
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Plus, right now Barack Obama is about as popular as Bob Crane at a Southern Baptist convention.
Wow, who under 55 is going to get that reference?
I'm under 55 and I get it. :)
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Plus, right now Barack Obama is about as popular as Bob Crane at a Southern Baptist convention.
Wow, who under 55 is going to get that reference?
I thought that line was a little esoteric myself. But red meat is for a specific audience. This is feel good for the 50 and over crowd (I'm 50 and grew up with his reruns).
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I'm over 55, and I remember Bob Crane ("Col. Hogan") was murdered over 30 years ago . . . I don't remember a Baptist connection.
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I'm over 55, and I remember Bob Crane ("Col. Hogan") was murdered over 30 years ago . . . I don't remember a Baptist connection.
He went all-out nutty for pornographic films, IIRC. Was killed by one of the poor, misunderstood denizens of that culture.
I will believe a "conservative wave" when I see it. I, too, have been alienated from the GOP, but will still register with them to do damage control at the local level. I doubt any acceptable conservative or liberty-minded candidate will be nominated for POTUS. From either major party.
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I expect this mid-term election will turn out much like '94 did in the end. Any gains made will be largely thrown away during the following two election cycles. The GOP is infected with a terminal case of "The Stupids" in my opinion.
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I expect this mid-term election will turn out much like '94 did in the end. Any gains made will be largely thrown away during the following two election cycles. The GOP is infected with a terminal case of "The Stupids" in my opinion.
This.
The continuing battle between establishment/RINO GOP and the Tea Party will continue.
Plus, the overall ratchet factor to ever more leftist statism continues. In part because the GOP does what the DNC does, just "slower" and throws in a few socially conservative bones for the wedge issues.
The biggest two factors I see in continuing the "ratchet" are:
1. It only takes 6 months of MSM hopey-changey narrative to usher in a new wave of destruction. It takes 6 years of pain for the electorate to shift gears, the hard corps left to get an 'enthusiasm gap', and the center-right to get motivated into superior turnout.
That's not a winning formula... ever.
2. The Left has largely succeeded in creating structural majorities through pushing us hard to the tipping point of 51% "takers" vs. 49% producers, and illegal immigration.
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The only wave coming is the wave of wailing when they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, both in mid terms and in the presidency.
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The only wave coming is the wave of wailing when they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, both in mid terms and in the presidency.
Are you kidding? This guy is inspiring (of despair):
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What with his buggering of the base and average Americans on immigration to support welfare for tech billionaires and businesscritters who would rather hire illegals or H1Bs, I can not see how this will turn out badly.
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The only wave coming is the wave of wailing when they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, both in mid terms and in the presidency.
This fall will be a bloodbath, second only to '94, perhaps even greater, but as RocketMan predicts, it'll be squandered. IIRC, some of the "generic Republican vs. generic Democrat" polling shows the widest gaps in... well ever.
2016, anyone good from the GOP side will be run out by the primary process as usual.
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I think the Republicans will get the Senate. I'm not sure if it will be a bloodbath. I'm thinking there will be enough screwups before election time to reduce their advantage.
While I will gleefully smile at the post election outrage of progressives, like others here, I expect the GOP to squander their win. The animosity of the "mainstreamers" like Peter King and John McCain for people like Rand Paul will continue to hurt the GOP.
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The wave shoring things up in the various states will be the long term improvement.
A second "non-recall year" win for Governor Walker here in WI, and the addition of voter ID to cement things, and help blunt the fraud gaps in Milwaukee and Madison will be important.
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Unfortunately, I suspect the conservative wave we're most likely to see is all the real conservatives waving to say "bye folks; we can't fix what refuses to be fixed."
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Representative democracies always go left. It's an inexorable process, that can't be reversed. You let people vote, they vote for the .gov to give them "free" stuff. Maybe you can delay it a bit but it is inevitable.
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I'm under 55 and I get it. :)
Ditto. Auto Focus starred Greg Kinnear as Crane and offered a dark interpretation of his off-screen...proclivities, and theory of his murder.
Re: the OP, I'm with the consensus that this election will shuffle the deck, but in no way change the crooked deal.
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All is well, knowing that the current GOP POTUS frontrunner candidate is none other than the new and fresh-faced Mike Huckabee:
bhttp://washingtonexaminer.com/mike-huckabee-gears-up-for-2016-run/article/2553425
Mike Huckabee gears up for 2016 run
Mike Huckabee is leading the Republican presidential race in Iowa. And not by just a point or two: in a new CNN survey, the former Arkansas governor, winner of the 2008 Iowa caucuses, is at 21 percent, with his closest GOP pursuer, Rep. Paul Ryan, nine points behind. Rand Paul is 14 points back, Chris Christie and Jeb Bush 15 behind.
Few frontrunners choose not to run. And when Huckabee, not yet a candidate and officially undecided, invited a group of reporters to meet with him at a hotel outside Washington Monday, he certainly looked like a man preparing to jump into the race.
Why, the enthusiasm I would show if given the opportunity to vote for a Huckabee/Ryan ticket in 2016 can hardly be measured! Only slightly less enthusiastic than for a Jeb Bush/Christie ticket. Hey, I hear McCain is tanned, rested, and ready. Maybe a Dole/McCain ticket is the ticket.
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The problem I see in Texas and Louisiana is a number of left leaning or even liberal Democrats running as Republicans and winning or eroding the conservative vote such that the Democrat wins. Michael Berry has talked about the Senate race in Lousisiana being like that. One of the Republican guys has a history of supporting and contributing to Democrats.
IMO, stuff like that is part of what makes it hard to see any changes.
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Why, the enthusiasm I would show if given the opportunity to vote for a Huckabee/Ryan ticket in 2016 can hardly be measured! Only slightly less enthusiastic than for a Jeb Bush/Christie ticket. Hey, I hear McCain is tanned, rested, and ready. Maybe a Dole/McCain ticket is the ticket.
Norris/Nugent '16 all the way.
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Representative democracies always go left. It's an inexorable process, that can't be reversed. You let people vote, they vote for the .gov to give them "free" stuff. Maybe you can delay it a bit but it is inevitable.
There is much truth in what you say, Balog. This is something I have maintained for quite a long time. I often liken the leftward drift to an aging process. The republic, as it ages, eventually succumbs and falls due to this leftward drift.
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If the GOP wins both the House and Senate, I can guarantee that there will be plenty of people complaining that it is either too conservative, not conservative enough or just right.
The same Representative or Senator will be labeled a NeoCon, RINO, NAZI or moderate depending upon who is branding them.
I'm already to the point, screw it, not matter how I vote or how many letters I write or if I volunteer to work party or campaign, things hardly every turn out how I would like them too.
So if as long as I get paid, laid and fed I'm not going to give a damn anymore. Life is too short to fester negative thoughts on things out of my control.
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If the GOP wins both the House and Senate, I can guarantee that there will be plenty of people complaining that it is either too conservative, not conservative enough or just right.
The same Representative or Senator will be labeled a NeoCon, RINO, NAZI or moderate depending upon who is branding them.
I'm already to the point, screw it, not matter how I vote or how many letters I write or if I volunteer to work party or campaign, things hardly every turn out how I would like them too.
So if as long as I get paid, laid and fed I'm not going to give a damn anymore. Life is too short to fester negative thoughts on things out of my control.
We don't agree on much politically (hell, I even disagree with the preface of this post) but your basic point is correct. Outside of the local level, attempting to influence politics is fruitless unless you are one the of the groups lining up to give your congresscritter a string of $250,000 per "speaking engagements or a multi-million per yer sinecure on the board of directors or as an "adviser."
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We don't agree on much politically (hell, I even disagree with the preface of this post) but your basic point is correct. Outside of the local level, attempting to influence politics is fruitless unless you are one the of the groups lining up to give your congresscritter a string of $250,000 per "speaking engagements or a multi-million per yer sinecure on the board of directors or as an "adviser."
This is only true because
1. People are idiots and either don't vote, or are influenced by ads tailored to people who are idiots
2. See number 1.
With the exception of of the dem voter machine buying votes indirectly (see number 1) or directly (voter fraud), elections are still held, and incumbents can still lose.
The issue isn't money in politics, the sadder thing is it actually matters when elections roll around.
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There is much truth in what you say, Balog. This is something I have maintained for quite a long time. I often liken the leftward drift to an aging process. The republic, as it ages, eventually succumbs and falls due to this leftward drift.
Take a look at the second line of my .sig . . .
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If the GOP wins both the House and Senate, I can guarantee that there will be plenty of people complaining that it is either too conservative, not conservative enough or just right.
The same Representative or Senator will be labeled a NeoCon, RINO, NAZI or moderate depending upon who is branding them.
I'm already to the point, screw it, not matter how I vote or how many letters I write or if I volunteer to work party or campaign, things hardly every turn out how I would like them too.
So if as long as I get paid, laid and fed I'm not going to give a damn anymore. Life is too short to fester negative thoughts on things out of my control.
I'm sorry you've reached my level of cynicism. It's probably the more accurate position to hold in relation to reality though, so there's that :D
Unfortunately we're limited on how much we can actually know and we're reliant on untrustworthy sources for our information. After you find yourself regretting support you've given folks who turn out to do the opposite of what they've campaigned on, yet once again, the futility of it all starts to set in.
Family, friends, co-workers, neighbors, community, state then nation. The hierarchy of my sphere of influence and immediate concern is dictated by face time. I just don't have good data to go off of the farther away from my circle the issues reside.
No longer do I trust the government or any of the media enough to sign off on sending someone off to a foreign country to potentially die.
Unlike the liberal left I don't think our society will let people die of hunger if government isn't there with their so called safety net. I think we would rise to the occasion.
Politicians are not the answer. Government perverts everything it touches due to its reliance on coercion. Government is always coercion, of somebody.
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I'm sorry you've reached my level of cynicism. It's probably the more accurate position to hold in relation to reality though, so there's that :D
I think a whole lot of us here have reached that level. For me anymore, it's all about flying low and staying under the radar.
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No longer do I trust the government or any of the media enough to sign off on sending someone off to a foreign country to potentially die.
This is where I am now. Rescue missions, and other very limited things, sure. Fighting weird beards in Sandboxistan, no; the "leaders" are not to be trusted with that, right now.
Unlike the liberal left I don't think our society will let people die of hunger if government isn't there with their so called safety net. I think we would rise to the occasion.
Unlike the liberal left, I know that their "cure" for poverty is worse than the disease. Let local governments/private orgs do that if they want, maybe let the states keep track of who's getting what aid from which locals. The Feds need to get out.
Politicians are not the answer.
The people, through their elected leaders and representatives, are the answer to a very limited set of questions.
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I think a whole lot of us here have reached that level. For me anymore, it's all about flying low and staying under the radar.
I'm going to drink my whiskey, hunt my birds and catch my fish, the rest of the world can go to hell. :)
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The Leave Me the Hell Alone Party is attractive. Problem is we face a government that has clearly gone predator and will not leave you alone. Hence the need to get active. National parties claim to be different but when judged by actions they appear to be reflections of the other. Parties at the local level may be easier to influence but there are no guarantees. I live in the so-called "Most conservative state in the union". It is actually the most republican state in the union and there are many scandals bubbling below the surface. The most powerful politician in the state was suspended from his speakership because of campaign finance irregularities. He successfully beat back a state grand jury indictment through his political gamesmanship but was indicted by a county grand jury on the same kind of charges which he evidently didn't know about. So why not swing democrat? Because those born-again republicans were democrats who simply turned coat when voters had had enough of their corruption. It seems to me the best option is personal defiance in the face of all things political. I trust me and no one else.
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There may well be a conservative wave in the offing but if you're relying on the Republican party to lead the way you will be severely disappointed.