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Title: Random questions
Post by: Monkeyleg on October 17, 2014, 11:34:45 PM
I've seen all of the Jason Bourne movies quite a few times over the years. It hit me when watching one of them the other night that he never had a job in any of the movies. How did he travel all over the world? Apparently he and his girlfriend lived in India for two years, but you never see him flipping burgers or selling mattresses. How did he do that?

On a site I visit nightly, I see ads for motorcycle helmets. Tonight there was one ad for a Scorpion model, and another ad for a Shark. Why don't underwear makers ever name mens briefs "Scorpion" or "Shark"? For that matter, why don't motorcycle helmet makers ever have a Fruit of the Loom model?

People here in Alabama, and maybe in the rest of the south, call shopping carts "buggies". People in Milwaukee call drinking fountains "bubblers". How can people just 700 miles apart speak the same language so differently, and neither of them correctly?

More to come as my mind wanders.



Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Viking on October 17, 2014, 11:55:43 PM
I've seen all of the Jason Bourne movies quite a few times over the years. It hit me when watching one of them the other night that he never had a job in any of the movies. How did he travel all over the world? Apparently he and his girlfriend lived in India for two years, but you never see him flipping burgers or selling mattresses. How did he do that?
I don't remember everything from the movie, but in the book, he had a small fortune in a Swiss bank account, and possibly also money and some useful things in the deposit box. In the movie, he had a deposit box. Unsure if he also had a bank account.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: bedlamite on October 18, 2014, 12:05:07 AM
If you swallow a burp does it turn into a fart?

Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 18, 2014, 12:45:55 AM
I've seen all of the Jason Bourne movies quite a few times over the years. It hit me when watching one of them the other night that he never had a job in any of the movies. How did he travel all over the world? Apparently he and his girlfriend lived in India for two years, but you never see him flipping burgers or selling mattresses. How did he do that?


What Viking said, plus we don't see much of what he did in India. His girlfriend was supposed to have had some kind of store.


Unless you're talking about this movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcSqZzR9xFY

 =) Wouldn't know about that one.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 18, 2014, 01:36:26 AM
Spooks can skim a lot of cash.


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Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Viking on October 18, 2014, 01:56:13 AM
Spooks can skim a lot of cash.


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In the books, the cash was provided by the CIA to help with his cover as an international terrorist/assassin.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Northwoods on October 18, 2014, 02:07:35 AM
In the books, the cash was provided by the CIA to help with his cover as an international terrorist/assassin.

And living in India doesn't take much cash.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Regolith on October 18, 2014, 03:03:22 AM
People in Milwaukee call drinking fountains "bubblers". How can people just 700 miles apart speak the same language so differently, and neither of them correctly?


It's a case of a trademark becoming generecized, kind of like "Kleenex".  The original Bubblers were produced by Kohler, which started off in Kohler, Wisconsin.

They have bubblers in Portland, OR, too. They were installed by a former Wisconsin resident named Simon Benson, and they're known as Benson Bubblers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benson_Bubbler).
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: French G. on October 18, 2014, 03:30:44 AM
Worse is when you end  up in a restaurant and order a coke and then the girl asks you what kind.  Usually in the same zone where ham is no longer ham and sweet tea is not an option.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 18, 2014, 09:47:58 AM
Worse is when you end  up in a restaurant and order a coke and then the girl asks you what kind.  Usually in the same zone where ham is no longer ham and sweet tea is not an option.

Where would this be, and what is the "ham"?
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Fly320s on October 18, 2014, 10:01:27 AM
Random answers:

Yes.

C.

Smoke, mirrors, and diversions.

Only on a dare.

Plaid.

42, of course.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: HankB on October 18, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
I've seen all of the Jason Bourne movies quite a few times over the years. It hit me when watching one of them the other night that he never had a job in any of the movies. How did he travel all over the world? Apparently he and his girlfriend lived in India for two years, but you never see him flipping burgers or selling mattresses. How did he do that? A good movie spy will have no problem swiping plenty of cash - look at James Bond; he was never shown living the lifestyle a British subject would have based on what the Crown paid him.

On a site I visit nightly, I see ads for motorcycle helmets. Tonight there was one ad for a Scorpion model, and another ad for a Shark. Why don't underwear makers ever name mens briefs "Scorpion" or "Shark"? Ouch! For that matter, why don't motorcycle helmet makers ever have a Fruit of the Loom model? Trademark infringement.

People here in Alabama, and maybe in the rest of the south, call shopping carts "buggies". Heard that term a lot growing up in Chicago. People in Milwaukee call drinking fountains "bubblers". Heard about this, but never actually heard it used. How can people just 700 miles apart speak the same language so differently, and neither of them correctly? Doesn't take 700 miles - when I was still in Chicago, the English spoken at, say, 33rd and State (on the IIT campus) was profoundly different from the dialect spoken just a few blocks north, east, or south.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: bedlamite on October 18, 2014, 10:33:56 AM
Why are pizzas round, but the box they come in is square?
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Brad Johnson on October 18, 2014, 10:40:43 AM
You've heard of Movie Physics? Welcome to Movie Accounting.

Brad
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Tallpine on October 18, 2014, 11:03:18 AM
How many roads must a man walk down?
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Monkeyleg on October 18, 2014, 11:20:14 AM
How many roads must a man walk down?

Dunno. I think that answer's blowing in the wind.

In the Bourne movies, he has a bunch of cash in a safety deposit box. Hard to tell how much. But later, after Pamela Landy is brought in on the case, she makes a big point about Conklin having $760,000 in his personal bank account. If Conklin was Bourne's superior, I doubt Bourne would have had that much. Also, when he splits up with Marie at her British friend's house, Bourne gives her a bunch of cash, and says he just kept $30K for himself. $30K wouldn't last long travelling all over Europe for a year.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Fly320s on October 18, 2014, 12:11:56 PM
Dunno. I think that answer's blowing in the wind.

In the Bourne movies, he has a bunch of cash in a safety deposit box. Hard to tell how much. But later, after Pamela Landy is brought in on the case, she makes a big point about Conklin having $760,000 in his personal bank account. If Conklin was Bourne's superior, I doubt Bourne would have had that much. Also, when he splits up with Marie at her British friend's house, Bourne gives her a bunch of cash, and says he just kept $30K for himself. $30K wouldn't last long travelling all over Europe for a year.

Repeat after me, "It is a movie.  It isn't real."
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 18, 2014, 03:54:30 PM
Dunno. I think that answer's blowing in the wind.

In the Bourne movies, he has a bunch of cash in a safety deposit box. Hard to tell how much. But later, after Pamela Landy is brought in on the case, she makes a big point about Conklin having $760,000 in his personal bank account. If Conklin was Bourne's superior, I doubt Bourne would have had that much. Also, when he splits up with Marie at her British friend's house, Bourne gives her a bunch of cash, and says he just kept $30K for himself. $30K wouldn't last long traveling all over Europe for a year.


Did they say he traveled all over Europe for a year? 


I don't see why he would necessarily have less than Conklin (and keep in mind, we don't know how many other accounts or piles of buried gold Conklin had). Bourne wouldn't necessarily get paid less. I think you'd pay a guy quite a bit, if you wanted him to keep quiet about all of the killing he'd done for you. And if you wanted to stay on his good side (so he doesn't kill you).

Besides, I don't think the cash was payment. It was an expense account, and wouldn't the "assets" have a lot more expenses than their handlers? They travel, they kill people, and you need them to have enough (untraceable) cash to get what they need discreetly.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: MechAg94 on October 18, 2014, 04:35:32 PM
Why are pizzas round, but the box they come in is square?
The pans they are served on in the restaurant are round. 

If you can mass produce a round cardboard box that is easy to fold, patent it. 
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Monkeyleg on October 18, 2014, 04:36:18 PM
Another question. In Paul Simon's 1972 song "Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard", Simon parodies a Hispanic (Puerto Rican?) youth. It wasn't considered racist then. Is it racist now? Is the song still played? Is playing it racist?  Is Paul Simon, who's Jewish, a "white Hispanic" in the same way that George Zimmerman, who is Hispanic but has a Jewish name, a white Hispanic?
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: MechAg94 on October 18, 2014, 04:38:19 PM
Worse is when you end  up in a restaurant and order a coke and then the girl asks you what kind.  Usually in the same zone where ham is no longer ham and sweet tea is not an option.
You see the generic coke term down here in Texas a lot. 
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 18, 2014, 05:09:14 PM
You see the generic coke term down here in Texas a lot. 


I know in one part of Texas, it's "soda water."
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 18, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
Another question. In Paul Simon's 1972 song "Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard", Simon parodies a Hispanic (Puerto Rican?) youth. It wasn't considered racist then. Is it racist now? Is the song still played? Is playing it racist?  


Uh, it mentions a guy named Julio, if you think that's a parody of anyone.  ???
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Marnoot on October 18, 2014, 05:38:29 PM
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Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 18, 2014, 08:47:35 PM
As a kid "coke" was a generic term in my neck of the woods.

Hey Bubba garb me a coke.
Sure, what do you want?
I'll have a Dr. Pepper.

it's pretty solid as "pop" now.

How come you never see a toilet on Star Trek?
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Triphammer on October 18, 2014, 09:10:46 PM
STOS couldn't have toilets cause there were non on TV. In later versions, the waste is beamed directly out of the bowels to supply matter for the replicator
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: brimic on October 18, 2014, 09:28:05 PM
As a kid "coke" was a generic term in my neck of the woods.

Hey Bubba garb me a coke.
Sure, what do you want?
I'll have a Dr. Pepper.

it's pretty solid as "pop" now.

How come you never see a toilet on Star Trek?

This one always amused me.

See the very dark county on the map in WI, just right of the lower center of the state? That's where I grew up. It was always 'Pop'- if you said anything else, you were obviously an outsider. I've lived on the 'East coast of WI for most of my adult life, I haven't heard the word 'pop' in about 20 years.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: GigaBuist on October 21, 2014, 09:28:32 PM
Why are pizzas round, but the box they come in is square?

We have a cultural bias toward round pizzas.  It's probably stupid but it is there.  It scales up better to larger sizes than rectangles do because each pie slice still has a crust handle. 
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: charby on October 21, 2014, 09:42:40 PM
I grew up near that one county in Iowa that calls pop, soda. Drives my wife nuts when I ask her to pick up soda from the store. She keeps telling me its pop, and I tell her get me diet mountain dew soda. :)

She also hates that I pronounce wash, worsh; Washington is worshington and drop my g's at the end of words.

Also a sofa/couch is a davenport.

Drinking fountain is a water cooler.

Draft beer is called draw. But you ask what is on tap.

Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Tallpine on October 22, 2014, 11:07:03 AM
She also hates that I pronounce wash, worsh; Washington is worshington and drop my g's at the end of words.

And I thought that was a Texas thing  ;)

Also, the inflection on some words (which I think is a Scots/Irish/Gaelic thing).  For instance, I still say INsurance.  =)
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: MechAg94 on October 22, 2014, 12:49:59 PM
We have a cultural bias toward round pizzas.  It's probably stupid but it is there.  It scales up better to larger sizes than rectangles do because each pie slice still has a crust handle. 

I imagine that if you go to a place that still hand rolls out the ball of dough, round is the easiest way to do it.  Also, all the pans are round if you eat it there.
The pizza place I worked at had a rolling machine that flattened out the dough, but it was still hand shaped more or less just all the dough was done at once.  I think DoubleDave's places still hand shape each pizza.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 22, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
We have a cultural bias toward round pizzas.  It's probably stupid but it is there.  It scales up better to larger sizes than rectangles do because each pie slice still has a crust handle. 



Jets Pizza does rectangular.

Around here, a lot of thin crust pizza is cut into squares.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: charby on October 22, 2014, 02:18:19 PM
Also, the inflection on some words (which I think is a Scots/Irish/Gaelic thing).  For instance, I still say INsurance.  =)

w N b c...

Makes me think of Howard Stern's movie.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: MechAg94 on October 22, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
I think I do remember using soda water or soda as well as "coke" to refer soft drinks. 
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Balog on October 22, 2014, 03:07:01 PM
Another question. In Paul Simon's 1972 song "Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard", Simon parodies a Hispanic (Puerto Rican?) youth. It wasn't considered racist then. Is it racist now? Is the song still played? Is playing it racist?  Is Paul Simon, who's Jewish, a "white Hispanic" in the same way that George Zimmerman, who is Hispanic but has a Jewish name, a white Hispanic?

I doubt any 1972 Paul Simon songs get airplay, racial overtones or not.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: KD5NRH on October 22, 2014, 03:08:10 PM
Also, when he splits up with Marie at her British friend's house, Bourne gives her a bunch of cash, and says he just kept $30K for himself. $30K wouldn't last long travelling all over Europe for a year.

IIRC, the deposit box had several different currencies in it; he may have meant that he gave her all but $30kUSD, and still had lots of francs, lire, etc., or he may have had more stashed in various accounts for the names in his different passports (after all, an established bank account is a good backup for a fake ID: if someone's looking that close, it would stand out that you never had a penny in any bank anywhere until your $100k deposit last week) and gave her all but $30k of his cash.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Tallpine on October 22, 2014, 08:25:23 PM
Cakes are square.  Pies are round.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: bedlamite on October 23, 2014, 02:38:06 AM
Cakes are square.  Pies are round.

Yes, but why? Pies could be square and would taste the same.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 23, 2014, 07:37:09 AM
Cakes are square.  Pies are round.

No, pi r squared.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 23, 2014, 08:01:37 AM
I doubt any 1972 Paul Simon songs get airplay, racial overtones or not.


Those are the kinds of overplayed songs on which radio thrives.

And just as an aside, I never pass up the chance to remark that Simon's no good without Garfunkel.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Doggy Daddy on October 23, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
Around here, a lot of thin crust pizza is cut into squares.

I miss that.  You can request square cuts around here.  It'll still be delivered sliced into wedges at least 75% of the time.  I've given up trying.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Viking on October 23, 2014, 08:33:47 AM
IIRC, the deposit box had several different currencies in it; he may have meant that he gave her all but $30kUSD, and still had lots of francs, lire, etc., or he may have had more stashed in various accounts for the names in his different passports (after all, an established bank account is a good backup for a fake ID: if someone's looking that close, it would stand out that you never had a penny in any bank anywhere until your $100k deposit last week) and gave her all but $30k of his cash.
Correct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca06PmdVIzg#t=74
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: T.O.M. on October 23, 2014, 08:44:05 AM
On the spy/money issue, I've noticed that very few writers who mysteries, espionage, or thrillers have main characters that are anything but financially well-off.  Very few give a plausible explanation as to where the money came from.  Best example I've seen of money in books is the novels of John Sandford...the Lucas Davenport series (the Prey mysteries) and the Virgil Flowers series.  Davenport is a cop who developed games based on his experiences, worked with smart guys to turn them into computer simulations/games, and sold for big money, then invested the money well.  Sandford does a good job of throwing in the nice money references (Porsche, expensive suits, etc.) but in a believable way.  The fun part is with the Virgil Flowers series (a spin-off of the Prey series) where the guy is a working cop, has enough money to live, but isn't driving around in a fancy car throwing cash around.  Sandford goes so far as to have the character worry about expenses, how to pay for his fishing boat repairs, etc.  Good reads if you like the mystery stuff.  Gun details aren't Correia-level good, but better than most.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: wmenorr67 on October 23, 2014, 10:10:13 AM
Where's the beef?
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Tallpine on October 23, 2014, 11:32:37 AM
Where's the beef?

It's what's for dinner  ;)


No, pi r squared.
Of all the people on all the forums in the world, why did it have to be you that got the joke  :lol:
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: KD5NRH on October 23, 2014, 11:43:46 AM
Correct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca06PmdVIzg#t=74

Can't remember who it was, but there was one author who included quite a bit about how much went into maintaining multiple identities; buying groceries and gas on the various bank cards from time to time, getting motel rooms etc. so that anyone looking closely at one would see some activity, rather than a guy who has $50k in the bank that he never withdraws from or deposits to between the initial deposit and the day he suddenly pops into normal daily spending.  As I recall, his character also maintained a couple of identities that only his handler knew about in case of issues internal to the department, and a couple that even the handler didn't know about, specifically in case he got burned and needed to disappear.  Had some creative ways of shuffling money between identities without letting them be linked to each other too.