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Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: mfree on October 11, 2006, 10:46:54 AM
Looks like a small plane flew into the side of 524 E. 72'nd st in NYC, just off the East River. Eyewitnesses report that the plane seemed to have lost control, Cavuto on fox is speculating a stall in a single or an engine out in a multi.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: Keith Wheeler on October 11, 2006, 10:54:21 AM
Planes have been crashing in to buidlings in NYC for 60 years.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: charby on October 11, 2006, 10:59:22 AM
In 1945 a B-25 hit the Empire State Building. I think it was due to the fog or something. Something I heard on the History Channel.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: mfree on October 11, 2006, 11:04:53 AM
Well, I'd change the title a little if I could, I just belted this up here. "small plane crashes into building in NYC" sounds a little better.

It's disinteresting as a "story" but it's interesting to see that the NYPD and FDNY have *really* got their stuff together.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: wingnutx on October 11, 2006, 11:15:47 AM
I heard that every Jew in the building called in sick today!!!1!
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: client32 on October 11, 2006, 11:20:51 AM
And every republican voter!
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: wingnutx on October 11, 2006, 11:28:19 AM
Both of them!
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: Matthew Carberry on October 11, 2006, 11:42:41 AM
Quote from: wingnutx
Both of them!
LOL my friend, LOL

I was worried there for a second, my sister and brother-in-law inherited a place on the upper West side.  

I didn't know you could fly light airplanes over Manhattan.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: Tallpine on October 11, 2006, 11:59:23 AM
Quote from: carebear
I didn't know you could fly light airplanes over Manhattan.
Well, apparently they couldn't ... Tongue

(not without hitting something, anyway)
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: Matthew Carberry on October 11, 2006, 12:25:31 PM
Just read an update...

[bad taste warning]

Apparently the plane flew low and a little too inside.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: DJJ on October 11, 2006, 02:51:55 PM
As a private pilot myself, what scares me most is the widespread reaction "I don't understand - you mean any average Joe can get a pilot's license and fly over Manhattan?" That's just a repackaging of "You mean any average Joe can get an AK-47 at a gun show?"
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: Iain on October 11, 2006, 03:11:01 PM
This will mean more to you guys than to me, but the Miami Herald is reporting that Cory Lidle was on board.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: gunsmith on October 11, 2006, 03:13:02 PM
They had a Boston banner in the window and he flew into a rage.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: mfree on October 12, 2006, 06:10:35 AM
Yup. I kept searching and apparently it's Lidle's new (to him) Cirrus Design SR20 with 180 hours on it.

They are apparently horrible for spin recovery, and one of two things likely happened:

1. vapor lock from throttling up/down on what this was, a sightseeing flight, with ensuing stall and wing drop
2. right wing going dry, like what brought down another SR20 in Jamaica not but 20 days ago. (all survived, they got to use the ballistic chute).

I betcha there's some FAA attention paid to the latter problem since it's apparently repeatable. There's no warning of imbalance on these things asides from a float-type fuel level indicator, an 8.5 gallon warning light and flight characteristics.
Title: Plane hits building in NYC
Post by: LAK on October 13, 2006, 12:50:00 AM
I wonder of they cleaned up and disappeared the plane wreckage - carrying all the big pieces covered up with tarpaulins - as fast as they did outside the Pentagon in 2001.

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