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Someone please tell me this is actually from the Onion. Please???
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Over the summer I had a hysterectomy, and um, I got my parts back. I thought I could just [inaudible] on eBay, you know, [inaudible] Cindy Sheehans uterus. And so I planted it in the garden where the bush, its a pretty bush& Its so funny cause me and my children, well always be a part of, of Crawford, Texas. Long after people forgot the horror of the Bush regime, long after, you know, were forgotten. Well always, our DNA will always be in the land&
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/16/audio-cindy-sheehan-says-she-planted-her-uterus-in-crawford/
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I hate to tell her this, but every time she defecates she leaves DNA in the land, too.
...she planted it by the bush...
People, you can't write material this good.
Regards,
Rabbit.
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I think the serious question is where she left her brain.
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It is not unusual for a personal tragedy to cause someone to become mentally imbalanced.
I can understand that she is feeling a lot of pain, and I feel bad for her that she is losing her grip.
We ought not to make fun of such people. It seems wrong somehow. Like kicking a puppy.
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It is not unusual for a personal tragedy to cause someone to become mentally imbalanced.
I can understand that she is feeling a lot of pain, and I feel bad for her that she is losing her grip.
We ought not to make fun of such people. It seems wrong somehow. Like kicking a puppy.
I really do not remember any other such people given the national exposure she has gotten. Once she became a creature of Code Pink, Move On.org and the koolaid drinking left and started spouting off like a moonbat-bot she became fair game.
BTW, is she still on her "hunger strike"?
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We ought not to make fun of such people. It seems wrong somehow. Like kicking a puppy.
Yeah, but ther's a big difference between her and a puppy.
A puppy quits whining after a couple weeks.
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I think it would be more appropriate for us to concentrate our ire on the media and the liberals that use her misfortunes and deficits to their own political advantage.
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We ought not to make fun of such people. It seems wrong somehow. Like kicking a puppy.
Yeah, but their's a big difference between her and a puppy.
A puppy quits whining after a couple weeks.
you ever lose a son to a war you just do not understand?
give her a break. an emotional breakdown like that is not going to just go away. many people never really recover.
i agree with the other poster that said we ought to reserve most of our vitriol to those using her for their own purposes.
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i agree with the other poster that said we ought to reserve most of our vitriol to those using her for their own purposes.
Its called "Puppet" or "ventrilloquist" journalism...you seek out "newsmakers" that agree with your biases, and "report" their every utterence in furtherence of the Great Progressive Socialist Cause. Kind of like how Kennedy, Clinton, Sudds and Reynolds can kill and rape and stay in office, but Foley is houned out for dirty e-mails...
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"Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee...
My Uterus At Crawford...."
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We ought not to make fun of such people. It seems wrong somehow. Like kicking a puppy.
Yeah, but their's a big difference between her and a puppy.
A puppy quits whining after a couple weeks.
you ever lose a son to a war you just do not understand?
give her a break. an emotional breakdown like that is not going to just go away. many people never really recover.
i agree with the other poster that said we ought to reserve most of our vitriol to those using her for their own purposes.
Hey, what can I say? I kick puppies too!
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ilbob said:
It is not unusual for a personal tragedy to cause someone to become mentally imbalanced.
I can understand that she is feeling a lot of pain, and I feel bad for her that she is losing her grip.
We ought not to make fun of such people. It seems wrong somehow. Like kicking a puppy.
You're right that we should focus our anger on those who have used her. BUT: She is still culpable. She isn't Terry Schiavo, who was truly used by everyone with a soapbox. Cindy Sheehan has embraced her breakdown, because as hate-filled and venomous as she appears, no matter how ugly and degrading her acts, it is still less painful than letting Patrick go, and beginning to heal. In her mind, as long as she rails on, her son lives, or at least, did not die in vain.
When her usefulness to the Left ends, and she is dropped like yesterday's garbage-then you will see pain. Like the schizophrenic who avoids the doctors but chooses to self-medicate with street drugs, she will hit a bottom so wretched that even her current handlers will feel sorry for her-though of course they'll blame someone else for her misery (the dealers are "only giving the People what they want", right?).
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ilbob said:
It is not unusual for a personal tragedy to cause someone to become mentally imbalanced.
I can understand that she is feeling a lot of pain, and I feel bad for her that she is losing her grip.
We ought not to make fun of such people. It seems wrong somehow. Like kicking a puppy.
You're right that we should focus our anger on those who have used her. BUT: She is still culpable. She isn't Terry Schiavo, who was truly used by everyone with a soapbox. Cindy Sheehan has embraced her breakdown, because as hate-filled and venomous as she appears, no matter how ugly and degrading her acts, it is still less painful than letting Patrick go, and beginning to heal. In her mind, as long as she rails on, her son lives, or at least, did not die in vain.
When her usefulness to the Left ends, and she is dropped like yesterday's garbage-then you will see pain. Like the schizophrenic who avoids the doctors but chooses to self-medicate with street drugs, she will hit a bottom so wretched that even her current handlers will feel sorry for her-though of course they'll blame someone else for her misery (the dealers are "only giving the People what they want", right?).
I think you may be right. She could be substituting rage for grief, and pointing that rage at a convenient target given her by the far left. She will become less and less useful as she becomes more and more pitiable, until no one wants to see her anymore. Then they will drop her like a rock, she will be all alone after having had all that attention for some period of time. Just about anything could happen then. I hope she can work through it when the attention goes away and she is all alone.
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Terry Sciavo was murdered, despite people who "used her" by trying to save her life.
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Dude, her brain was partially liquified.
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First of all, why do you say so?
Secondly, was this learned before or after she was offed?
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http://www6.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/Schiavo_links.htm
http://www6.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/2%20CTs.png
http://msnbc.msn.com/ID/8225637/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/15/AR2005061500512_pf.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/16/national/16schiavo.html?ex=1161403200&en=45ca45f673edbb2a&ei=5070
OK, liquified is an oversimplification. Apparently it was atrophied to the point that some of it had been replaced with spinal fluid.
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..and, as I'm sure you are aware, some people have lost more than 70% of their brian mass and exhibited no impairment in function...
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..and, as I'm sure you are aware, some people have lost more than 70% of their brian mass and exhibited no impairment in function...
Yup, and Ms. Schiavo had no impairment... er... that's not right. To all those who spout "murder!" every time life support is withdrawn I postulate that without life support she'd have died anyways. "God's Plan" was apparently originally for her to die, and we interfered. Now, offing someone who's totally disabled but functional, that's euthanasia. Withdrawing a feeding tube for someone who's permanently tuber-ized to the point they can't swallow? That's noninterference.
But that's thread drift, and not really what I originally had to say.
Yes, I see picking on Cindy Sheehan in the same light as, oh, kicking a puppy. Mind you this puppy soiled all over the living room carpet, rolled in it, then lifted leg for a little relief on everyone's socks, but you don't kick it. You beat the hell out of whoever (a) told you it was house trained and (b) brought it into the house (here being a euphemism for "gave media exposure to) in the first place.
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Schiavo wasn't on life support.
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If I understand Cindy Sheehan properly, she was a radical left wing moonbat before her son lost his life. She chose to then use his death to front her left wing notions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was buried and had no headstone because she apparently did not care enough for him to have one placed. The nation provides free markers for veterans and she didn't even do that until her non action in this regard became public knowledge.
Let her reap as she has sown.
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Schiavo wasn't on life support.
Okay, I see we have nothing left to talk about.
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Was she on a respirator? Were her vital organs not functioning? If not, she was not on life support.
She was being fed and given water, and that is not life support.
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I... I had this horrifying thought. Our little moonbat buried her uterus... palpably a piece of meat. Under a bush. In TEXAS.
I hope she got it deep enough or the press stanchions will be greeted with the sight of a dusty coyote running off with her unmentionables.
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Fistful,
I don't agree with you, you don't agree with me. If I was in a persistent vegitative state and fed by tube but *just* not bad enough that my parasympathetic breathing was suppressed, I'd want that tube yanked. You see differently. I'd treat you as you saw fit, and hopefully you'd treat me as I saw fit, and therein lies whatever moral strengths and weaknesses amongst us; in actions and not peurile arguments.
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OK, mfree. It would simplify matters if there was any way of knowing what Terry Schiavo would have wanted. Her husband's assertion that she wanted to die is suspicious and not properly substantiated.
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OK, mfree. It would simplify matters if there was any way of knowing what Terry Schiavo would have wanted. Her husband's assertion that she wanted to die is suspicious and not properly substantiated.
Regardless of any thing you might have wanted for her, the law made her husband the person that got to decide. It is not up to you.
As for the unsubstantiated part of it, very few younger people tell anyone but their spouse what they want in such a case, and even fewer write it down. Are you suggesting that we leave people on life support indefinately unless there is something in writing?
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Heck. I'd volunteer to go dig it up and feed it to the coyotes, just to spite her. I doubt it's embalmed, so I can't be legally charged with endangering native wildlife...
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OK, mfree. It would simplify matters if there was any way of knowing what Terry Schiavo would have wanted. Her husband's assertion that she wanted to die is suspicious and not properly substantiated.
Regardless of any thing you might have wanted for her, the law made her husband the person that got to decide. It is not up to you.
As for the unsubstantiated part of it, very few younger people tell anyone but their spouse what they want in such a case, and even fewer write it down. Are you suggesting that we leave people on life support indefinately unless there is something in writing?
ilbob, tell me where I said it was my decision, or apologize. I never said it was up to me. I said it was up to Terri Schiavo, and we don't know what she wanted. This is not about me at all.
As I understand it, the law demanded that Terry Schiavo be cared for by a legal guardian of some kind, rather than her husband. The law, apparently, was not followed correctly. Doesn't it seem odd to you that a man would be allowed to make that decision when he had so much to gain by killing her? He received a large settlement that he claimed would be used for treatment. She received minimal treatment.
Again, she wasn't on life support, she was just receiving food and water. She needed constant care to stay alive, but so do a lot of people.
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OK, mfree. It would simplify matters if there was any way of knowing what Terry Schiavo would have wanted. Her husband's assertion that she wanted to die is suspicious and not properly substantiated.
Regardless of any thing you might have wanted for her, the law made her husband the person that got to decide. It is not up to you.
As for the unsubstantiated part of it, very few younger people tell anyone but their spouse what they want in such a case, and even fewer write it down. Are you suggesting that we leave people on life support indefinately unless there is something in writing?
I'm not sure what fistful is suggesting, but I'll suggest exactly what you've said. Leave people on life support unless they've left written instructions otherwise. If Schaivo was serious about her decision, she should have written it down.
For better or worse, her husband wanted her dead. Given his current situation in regards to future plans to marry, insurance payouts, and so forth, I'm highly suspect of his objectivity in the decision. It should never have been his decision, it should have been hers. If Mr. Schaivo is so enamored with death, perhaps he should look into it for himself rather than imposing it upon someone else who isn't in a position to object.
Ultimatley, though, it was a judge that decided whether she lived or died. Frankly, I'm extremely uncomfortable with a judge weilding life or death powers over anyone who hasn't been convicted of a capital crime.
It's awfully easy for someone to say that death is the best alternative, so long as it isn't their own death that's under consideration.
The only person who should have authority to terminate a man's life is himself, not some uncaring spouse and not some black robed oligarch (duly convicted capital offenders excepted).
It worries me deeply that the "Christian Right" is the only body of people who were disturbed by this situation, and that the mainstream body politic considers them to be kooks because of it.
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She was already dead in the only way that really matters.
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To quote ilbob, "It is not up to you."
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I'm REALLY sorry I mentioned Terry Schiavo, okay?
Start your own thread, if you like.