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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on January 14, 2015, 10:21:45 AM
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I wonder if the definition of "random" has changed, or if it will still be white women in their 70s and kids?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/feds-order-random-searches-in-airports-after-al-qaeda-publishes-new-bomb-recipe/
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More random college girl boob grabbage, ahoy!
"Ma'am, I'ma gonna have to search your bra and panties on account of those being double D's and you having a really nice butt. "
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I wonder if the definition of "random" has changed, or if it will still be white women in their 70s and kids?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/feds-order-random-searches-in-airports-after-al-qaeda-publishes-new-bomb-recipe/
The secret guidelines will no doubt be for these searches to exclude people wearing burkas, hijabs, chadors, turbans, keffiyehs, beards, etc.
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NCIS last night had part of the story line is that a couple of guys were able to get plastic 3D printed firearms through security. Only metal in them was the firing pin which was a roofing nail.
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I'm not sure it is random at all.
I haven't used commercial airlines much since 9/11 but I've been pulled aside and patted down several times. More than 50% of my trips so I guess 25% or so of the flights.
White middle aged male flying alone. Is the government sharing gun ownership data with TSA to facilitate the randomness? [tinfoil]
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Meanwhile, at TSA's
secret volcano lair headquarters...
"Sir, that we're doing isn't working!"
"Looks like it's time to do it even harder!"
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Obviously we need moar this:
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F0%2F04%2FScreening_in_DTW_Airport.jpg&hash=4d27aa1a82e5e8e5e843141ef0f1237aa98cd4f2)
And this:
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F12%2Fairport-security-old-man.jpg&hash=2853d914171335b54a63618a0ec9a948bc23e451)
Otherwise the Trrrrrrrrrrrrrists will win.
YEAH Kabuki Security Theater !!!
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I recently flew out of Narita, and security was so easy that I thought I missed it somehow. There were no lines and no herding factor. Nobody checked my boarding pass with a UV pen or even checked my ID. I just had to walk through an old-fashioned metal detector with my shoes, belt, and jacket still on. And they saw I had a camera bag and offered to hand-check my film without me even asking. And they were cute too. I thought this must be some preliminary carry-on bag security pre-check or something, but that was it.
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I recently flew out of Narita, and security was so easy that I thought I missed it somehow. There were no lines and no herding factor. Nobody checked my boarding pass with a UV pen or even checked my ID. I just had to walk through an old-fashioned metal detector with my shoes, belt, and jacket still on. And they saw I had a camera bag and offered to hand-check my film without me even asking. And they were cute too. I thought this must be some preliminary carry-on bag security pre-check or something, but that was it.
Ha, A friend of mine came through there last year after diving in chuck lagoon. They kept referring to his rebreather as the bomby looking thingy.
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I recently flew out of Narita, and security was so easy that I thought I missed it somehow. There were no lines and no herding factor. Nobody checked my boarding pass with a UV pen or even checked my ID. I just had to walk through an old-fashioned metal detector with my shoes, belt, and jacket still on. And they saw I had a camera bag and offered to hand-check my film without me even asking. And they were cute too. I thought this must be some preliminary carry-on bag security pre-check or something, but that was it.
I once had a 12 hour layover at Narita(was it Narita in 1985?) Flying TWA from Manila to Honolulu. Couldn't leave the terminal area. That sucked. On the positive side my ships Yeoman made a "mistake" and accidentally booked me 1st class from Tokyo to Honolulu.
But, yes I predict TSA will double or triple down on the security theater antics and probably increase the scope.of their jurisdiction to some insane degree.
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There were obviously so many terrorist attacks on US aviation last year, requiring that we increase the random checks.
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Ha, A friend of mine came through there last year after diving in chuck lagoon. . . .
Sure it wasn't "Truk" rather than "chuck"?
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Sure it wasn't "Truk" rather than "chuck"?
You've never heard of Chuck Lagoon? Check your geography dude - it's right next to Ted's Island.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhwM_vVQLxo
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The secret guidelines will no doubt be for these searches to exclude people wearing burkas, hijabs, chadors, turbans, keffiyehs, beards, etc.
Another good reason to keep the beard and buy a couple more keffiyehs.
(Darn handy things to have around; make it into a scarf, hood, oven mitt, diaper, snotrag, towel, bandage or pillow as needed.)
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Searches need to be less random and much more directly targeted.
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Searches need to be less random and much more directly targeted.
But that would be racist and profiling. Can't do that even if Israel has done so for decades with much success.
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Searches need to be less random and much more directly targeted.
that's a feature not a bug
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Searches need to be less random and much more directly targeted.
YES! Target the crews. Oh wait, that is already being done. ;/
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But that would be racist and profiling. Can't do that even if Israel has done so for decades with much success.
You don't want our system.
Not if you value any concept of rights and freedoms and dignity.
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You don't want our system.
Not if you value any concept of rights and freedoms and dignity.
That's odd since it's regularly held in some circles as " the right way"
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The Israel which many American Internet users imagine is sadly very different from the country I actually inhabit.
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Yes it is and I thank you for that education.
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The Israel which many American Internet users imagine is sadly very different from the country I actually inhabit.
That goes both ways of course.
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YES! Target the crews. Oh wait, that is already being done. ;/
Well, we all know that the crews are not to be trusted flying a multimillion dollar jet around full of passengers.
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The Israel which many American Internet users imagine is sadly very different from the country I actually inhabit.
Granted my experience in Israel is but for one night in Tel-Aviv waiting to fly out from when I was stationed on the Sinai. But for that one night I did enjoy walking around and talking to the locals. When I got to the airport and was going through security I had no less than three different agents ask me the same question two or three times, just worded differently, seeing if I was consistent in my answers, and I was a US Service Member. Imagine if I was a threat.
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Well, we all know that the crews are not to be trusted flying a multimillion dollar jet around full of passengers.
It's absolutely CRUCIAL that the people at the controls of said plane not be permitted to bring on board a personal steak knife identical to those included with first-class food service. They might do something DANGEROUS with it! ;/
(For those inclined to wonder, a passenger-jet pilot on FlyerTalk's forum a few years back told of being stopped for just such an "offense". He was allowed to "surrender" the knife and continue on through security to get to and fly the plane without further incident.
Miraculously, the plane made it to its destination without issue.)
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Buddy of mine flys for Untied (yes, I spelled it correctly) out of ORD. A few years back one of the TSA agents stopped them and made them go through the whole no shoes, etc BS. He was an Armed Flight Officer and had it with him in it's case. The TSA agent just about hada cow and was refusing to let him take it on the plane because "He might try to take it over."
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Even more stupidity is not letting military carry knives on a military charter. Only people on the flight besides the crew are going to or from the sand box and not going to be on any other planes. :facepalm:
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Even more stupidity is not letting military carry knives on a military charter. Only people on the flight besides the crew are going to or from the sand box and not going to be on any other planes.
But they might try to hijack the plane and divert it to some third world...oh, yeah.
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You don't want our system.
Not if you value any concept of rights and freedoms and dignity.
Yeah, our institutionalized sexual assault/ child molestation system is much better.
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Sure it wasn't "Truk" rather than "chuck"?
I spelled it wrong.
Chuuk Lagoon, also known as Truk Lagoon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuuk_Lagoon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuuk_Lagoon)
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Yeah, our institutionalized sexual assault/ child molestation system is much better.
Yes, it is.
Because our doesn't do the profiling instead of the body searches, but in addition to them.
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Your eyewitness testimony does NOT feed the popular narrative
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Yes, it is.
Because our doesn't do the profiling instead of the body searches, but in addition to them.
Which causes me to ask about the type of person hired for Israel's equivalent of the TSA, Micro. I suspect they are much better trained and more professional than most in the TSA.
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Which causes me to ask about the type of person hired for Israel's equivalent of the TSA, Micro. I suspect they are much better trained and more professional than most in the TSA.
Except for the subset that are actually draftees.
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Ouch.
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Worse, at least some of them are MAGAV draftees.
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You are determined to crush illusions aren't you
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