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Title: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Ben on January 21, 2015, 11:28:31 AM
Florida.  :laugh:

I have to wonder what was going through the head of the numbskull? It could have just as easily been an undercover cop as a CCW holder. Bloomberg's group is apparently super pissed off that the guy got arrested, which I guess means that they are pro assault and battery (if it's someone they don't like).

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/27896784/man-spots-gun-then-tackles-concealed-carry-license-holder

Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: wmenorr67 on January 21, 2015, 12:53:01 PM
Lucky the guy doing the tackling didn't get his ass beat and/or shot for that.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 21, 2015, 12:55:15 PM
Not too late for a beating


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Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: K Frame on January 21, 2015, 12:57:45 PM
I suspect that Bloomberg's group is ticked because the idiot didn't get himself shot, which deprived them of a perfect opportunity to cry about how dangerous people with guns are.

No martyr, no joy.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Mannlicher on January 21, 2015, 03:26:09 PM
this one has libs just blowing fuses.  The fellow that was tackled and put in a choke hold, was black.  I thought putting black guys in choke holds was something no liberal could ever embrace.    ;/          Have they fogotten "I can't breath"?    laughable.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 21, 2015, 03:34:39 PM
Oh yea? I didn't know that. The plot thickens


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Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 21, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
this one has libs just blowing fuses.  The fellow that was tackled and put in a choke hold, was black.  I thought putting black guys in choke holds was something no liberal could ever embrace.    ;/          Have they fogotten "I can't breath"?    laughable.


 :rofl:
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: MechAg94 on January 21, 2015, 06:16:41 PM
Being the hero only works if the "bad guy" is actually "bad".  If not, you are no longer the "Hero". 

With concealed carry around Florida for so long, I find it hard to believe that just seeing the gun was the only motivator.  It is just odd.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 21, 2015, 06:23:37 PM
I find it hard to believe that just seeing the gun was the only motivator.  It is just odd.

The fact that he looks like this would be enough for some people.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbuddBs9.jpg&hash=c90b182103f5263a9d7f060e4d4cd54663bf914d)


I don't know if it really matters that CCW has been around so long. Those outside the loop aren't thinking about concealed guns, and aren't seeing them, either. They've never gotten used to what they weren't aware of.

The guy with the gun may, conceivably, have been acting strangely, but I think we've more chancing of finding that the "hero" is a bit of a nut. Probably some other stuff in his past.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Stand_watie on January 21, 2015, 09:40:44 PM
Can anybody i.d. that cap? POW/MIA? Is the assault victim a military retiree I wonder?
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: MechAg94 on January 21, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
Is there anything alarming about that photo?  Other than the skin color idea I guess. 
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 21, 2015, 10:07:45 PM
Is there anything alarming about that photo?  Other than the skin color idea I guess. 


Just that some people might assume the black guy is up to no good. And he's not dressed like a cop, or a Fortune 500 magnate. (I don't either.)
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 22, 2015, 12:26:01 AM
http://twitchy.com/2015/01/21/gun-grabber-shannon-watts-fires-off-what-may-be-her-dumbest-tweet-ever/

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Man arrested for tackling man with gun at Walmart. Because America.

Yeah, because America.  :cool:
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: freakazoid on January 22, 2015, 02:55:56 AM
http://twitchy.com/2015/01/21/gun-grabber-shannon-watts-fires-off-what-may-be-her-dumbest-tweet-ever/

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Man arrested for tackling man with gun at Walmart. Because America.

Yeah, because America.  :cool:

The unintentional irony is awesome. :laugh:
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: French G. on January 22, 2015, 05:23:14 AM
Is there anything alarming about that photo?  Other than the skin color idea I guess. 

yeah, I'm busy playing ma'am or a sir, him or a her, who's that with what we can see of the cop or EMS figure in that picture.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: wmenorr67 on January 22, 2015, 06:46:23 AM
yeah, I'm busy playing ma'am or a sir, him or a her, who's that with what we can see of the cop or EMS figure in that picture.

Pat appears to be a rent-a-cop and why are shoes on the trunk of the car.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: dogmush on January 22, 2015, 07:31:38 AM
Pat appears to be a rent-a-cop and why are shoes on the trunk of the car.

That's a Hillsbourgh County Sheriff's Deputy.  Dunno about the shoes, maybe we was tackled and choked so hard he came out of them?

I've shopped at the Riverview Walmart. Mr. Daniels is pretty average looking for that area.  It's not thugish or ghetto or anything.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: wmenorr67 on January 22, 2015, 07:36:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkH1RkTClgg

It's Pat!
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 22, 2015, 09:04:16 AM
Lucky the guy doing the tackling didn't get his ass beat and/or shot for that.

Age difference ~ disparity of force. My immediate reaction was that Mr. Vigilante is extremely lucky he didn't get shot. In fact, the guy with the CCW should probably be chastised for lack of situational awareness. What's the use of carrying a gun if you're not going to shoot some twit who physically assaults you?
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 22, 2015, 09:05:29 AM
Have they fogotten "I can't breath"?    laughable.

Memory is short -- especially when the facts don't fit the narrative.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 22, 2015, 09:15:07 AM
Can anybody i.d. that cap? POW/MIA? Is the assault victim a military retiree I wonder?

Maybe a retiree, or maybe a Vietnam veteran. He doesn't look 62 in the photo, but if he is that's about the right age. And the cap looks like it might be a Vietnam Veteran cap of some sort.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: AJ Dual on January 22, 2015, 10:03:39 AM
Yeah... the OC'er screams "vet" to me too.  =)

Not an actual charge enhancer, but does the perpetrator zero good in the court of public opinion.  :rofl:
Title: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 22, 2015, 10:18:15 AM
Here's video
Corrected link
http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2015/01/watch_vigilante_white_guy_tackles_black_man_licensed_to_carry_a_gun.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr%3Acontent%26
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Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: makattak on January 22, 2015, 10:25:24 AM
Here's video
https://www.facebook.com/shaunkenney/posts/10155013542965012
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That has to be the absolute worst rickroll I've ever seen.

(Linky goes to clip of SOTU.)
Title: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 22, 2015, 10:46:37 AM
Sorry wrong link
Fixed now

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Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 22, 2015, 11:20:35 AM
Where's Al/Holder/Jesse etc now?

Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: MechAg94 on January 22, 2015, 02:41:56 PM
He is black, a gun owner, and a CHL holder.  He probably votes Republican.  They would sooner prosecute him.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: brimic on January 22, 2015, 04:01:06 PM
He is black, a gun owner, and a CHL holder.  He probably votes Republican.  They would sooner persecute prosecute him.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Mannlicher on January 22, 2015, 05:25:11 PM
Here's video
Corrected link
http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2015/01/watch_vigilante_white_guy_tackles_black_man_licensed_to_carry_a_gun.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr%3Acontent%26
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"The Root" is hardly an unbiased source, and note their HUGE mistake when they report:What Daniels didn't know was that Foster had watched him leave his car and saw him put his legally registered firearm into his waist holster before entering the Wal-Mart. Since Florida is an open-carry state,

Florida is NOT an open carry State at all.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 22, 2015, 06:15:03 PM
"The Root" is hardly an unbiased source, and note their HUGE mistake when they report:What Daniels didn't know was that Foster had watched him leave his car and saw him put his legally registered firearm into his waist holster before entering the Wal-Mart. Since Florida is an open-carry state,

Florida is NOT an open carry State at all.


But do they "register" handguns?  ;/
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 22, 2015, 06:24:02 PM
Yeah... the OC'er screams "vet" to me too.  =)

Not an actual charge enhancer, but does the perpetrator zero good in the court of public opinion.  :rofl:


According to the reports I've read, the gun was concealed, but the other guy saw him take it out of his car and put it on. To me, this makes the vigilante's actions a little bit more understandable, if not really reasonable.


Here's video
Corrected link
http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2015/01/watch_vigilante_white_guy_tackles_black_man_licensed_to_carry_a_gun.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr%3Acontent%26
Two others folks jumped in

Age difference ~ disparity of force. My immediate reaction was that Mr. Vigilante is extremely lucky he didn't get shot. In fact, the guy with the CCW should probably be chastised for lack of situational awareness. What's the use of carrying a gun if you're not going to shoot some twit who physically assaults you?


If you look at the video, you can see the white guy just run up right behind him and grab him. Even super-duper situational awareness may not help you with that. (And another reason I won't OC until my new thumb-break holster arrives.) I mean, you're in Wal-Mart, so you expect people to be walking behind you, and all around you. Also, see Chris Kyle.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: 230RN on January 23, 2015, 07:03:55 AM
Besides mere "Battery," Foster should have been charged with "Malicious Do-Goodery."
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Unisaw on January 23, 2015, 09:14:57 PM
I think I read somewhere that the idiot has been held for a psych eval.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: dogmush on January 24, 2015, 06:58:54 AM
Yeah, they Baker Acted him. Which in FL is a 72 hr minimum hold because you are a threat to yourself or others.

The Baker act came between his bail hearing and his scheduled release. So he did or said something stupid in jail.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: lee n. field on January 24, 2015, 10:05:21 AM
Does Mr. Baker Act have a facebook acct or other social media presence?  Might be interesting to peruse.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Firethorn on January 24, 2015, 08:56:57 PM
Does Mr. Baker Act have a facebook acct or other social media presence?  Might be interesting to peruse.

LMGTFY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Mental_Health_Act

Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on January 25, 2015, 01:10:18 AM
I think lee is referencing the tackler, not the law.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 25, 2015, 10:36:46 AM
I think lee is referencing the tackler, not the law.

That's how I read it.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: lee n. field on January 25, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
I think lee is referencing the tackler, not the law.

yes
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: Firethorn on January 26, 2015, 07:16:17 PM
yes

My apologies for the misunderstanding.
Title: Re: CCW Holder Tackled in Walmart
Post by: zxcvbob on January 26, 2015, 08:16:43 PM
Why couldn't it have been ERIC Holder tackled in Walmart.  That woulda been a good story.   :laugh: