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Title: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: Scout26 on February 24, 2015, 08:25:56 PM
I just.....

don't.....errrr

ummmm, really...

this was serious??!!??

I'm simply speechless.  There's simply too many possibilities for sarcasm, irony, satire and everything between....


http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_27583767/minnesota-islamic-group-condemns-threat-mall-america


Okay APS.....and...... GO !!!!
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: Scout26 on February 24, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
And if you haven't seen it, there's a video of Mall Cops in Training on my FB page.  It's a riot....
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: BobR on February 24, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
Gecko 45 was a game changer in the field of mall security, it took the rest of the malls years to catch up. Even now they keep some things secret, like "special" boots.

bob




Go to the bathroom and get a drink before clicking on this, no really, do it. (http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/)
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: Andiron on February 24, 2015, 08:38:52 PM
I heard that on the radio,  and was certain one of you would catch it before I made it home to post..   Too funny.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: Phyphor on February 24, 2015, 10:49:41 PM
*Shaking head sadly*

"YOU, TEENAGERS! I SAID NO SKATEBOARDING! SNIPER, TARGET IN THE OPEN, BLONDE PUNK ON BOARD, RANGE 200, SEND IT. "
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 24, 2015, 11:20:09 PM
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In an underground training room, security training supervisor Lt. Zach Hamann demonstrated how he put security trainees through their paces, part of a four-month-long required training regiment, Reynolds said.

Well, dang! I sure hope a regiment is enough. It's too bad he doesn't have a full division, but at least it's not just a mere battalion.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: Boomhauer on February 24, 2015, 11:26:35 PM
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"This is a safe place,"

Uh, no, it isn't. I regard any concentration of people as an unsafe place. Too juicy of a target for a whackjob to resist. even a well trained, well equipped, armed security force would not make me feel safe.



Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: Monkeyleg on February 24, 2015, 11:45:23 PM
Uh, no, it isn't. I regard any concentration of people as an unsafe place. Too juicy of a target for a whackjob to resist. even a well trained, well equipped, armed security force would not make me feel safe.





Hell, it took the Kenyan army a couple of days to get four terrorists, and that was after the public was cleared out.

Oh, wait. You said "well trained".
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: HankB on February 25, 2015, 12:07:38 AM
I remember when Mall of America had a gang shooting.

Other local malls were selling T-shirts with splatter of red dye and the legend "I went to Mall of America and all I got was a lousy flesh wound."    :rofl:
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: TechMan on February 25, 2015, 03:56:54 AM
Uh, no, it isn't. I regard any concentration of people as an unsafe place. Too juicy of a target for a whackjob to resist. even a well trained, well equipped, armed security force would not make me feel safe.

Yep, and that is why I love Amazon.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: bedlamite on February 25, 2015, 04:36:27 AM
Just in time for the Paul Blart sequel.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/paul-blart-mall-cop-sequel-668929
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: wmenorr67 on February 25, 2015, 06:48:28 AM
Yeah, still surprised we haven't seen a coordinated attack on a couple or three malls across the country on a day like Black Friday or any other day for that matter.

Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: mtnbkr on February 25, 2015, 06:51:29 AM
Yeah, still surprised we haven't seen a coordinated attack on a couple or three malls across the country on a day like Black Friday or any other day for that matter.

The Jihadis aren't the criminal masterminds people on gunboards make them out to be and the govt does do some things right some of the time.

Chris
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: wmenorr67 on February 25, 2015, 06:54:43 AM
The Jihadis aren't the criminal masterminds people on gunboards make them out to be and the govt does do some things right some of the time.

Chris

Doesn't even have to be them.  Any group that wants to cripple our economy could do some damage.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: brimic on February 25, 2015, 08:47:07 AM
I think even Stephen Hunter wrote a book about somalis attacking the Mall of America.
I am surprised it hasn't happened with how its a big juicy target.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: MechAg94 on February 25, 2015, 10:24:46 AM
I think it is one thing to have a single nut job work himself into killing other people.  It is quite another to have a group of nut jobs together in the same place do it.  And they have to motivate themselves to do it, plan it, and get the guns to do it.  All without alerting authorities to their plan.  I imagine that takes a dedicated group who is quiet enough or smart enough not to alert authorities. 
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: brimic on February 25, 2015, 11:12:25 AM
I think it is one thing to have a single nut job work himself into killing other people.  It is quite another to have a group of nut jobs together in the same place do it.  And they have to motivate themselves to do it, plan it, and get the guns to do it.  All without alerting authorities to their plan.  I imagine that takes a dedicated group who is quiet enough or smart enough not to alert authorities. 

It would be easy enough if a group were to stay off the cell phones and internet and do all of the planning in meat space.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: KD5NRH on February 25, 2015, 01:47:48 PM
Explosive sniffing dogs...just wait until some potential terrorist figures out how to generate so many false positives that they give up on the dogs.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: makattak on February 25, 2015, 02:42:24 PM
I think it is one thing to have a single nut job work himself into killing other people.  It is quite another to have a group of nut jobs together in the same place do it.  And they have to motivate themselves to do it, plan it, and get the guns to do it.  All without alerting authorities to their plan.  I imagine that takes a dedicated group who is quiet enough or smart enough not to alert authorities. 

You mean, it's almost as hard as getting a group of nut jobs together, motivating them, planning, and getting training all while not alerting the authorities to their plant to hijack 4 planes at the same time and fly them into different targets?
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: mtnbkr on February 25, 2015, 02:50:00 PM
You mean, it's almost as hard as getting a group of nut jobs together, motivating them, planning, and getting training all while not alerting the authorities to their plant to hijack 4 planes at the same time and fly them into different targets?

The authorities were alerted, they ignored the warning signs.

It was also a hail mary pass.  It's been 13+ years and hasn't been duplicated since.  The few feeble attempts were squashed by citizens in the airplanes (shoe and underwear bombers).

Chris
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: makattak on February 25, 2015, 02:55:54 PM
The authorities were alerted, they ignored the warning signs.

It was also a hail mary pass.  It's been 13+ years and hasn't been duplicated since.  The few feeble attempts were squashed by citizens in the airplanes (shoe and underwear bombers).

Chris

Yes. Very true.

But as the IRA said in the 1980s: they only have to get lucky once. (And as they will keep rolling the dice...)
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: MechAg94 on February 25, 2015, 03:29:39 PM
I had originally intended to make an exception for religiously motivated perps.  Not sure if that is a good exception though. 
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: MechAg94 on February 25, 2015, 03:33:21 PM
It would be easy enough if a group were to stay off the cell phones and internet and do all of the planning in meat space.
It sounds easy enough, but probably isn't so easy in practice.  Herding cats comes to mind.  One or two individuals is much more likely.  The larger the group, the less likely they will stay quiet.

As said above, it has happened, I just think it is difficult and rare as history has shown.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: Andiron on February 25, 2015, 08:13:03 PM
I think even Stephen Hunter wrote a book about somalis attacking the Mall of America.
I am surprised it hasn't happened with how its a big juicy target.

Given the population density of Somalis,  I'm surprised something hasn't happened.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: freakazoid on February 25, 2015, 10:39:37 PM
It sounds easy enough, but probably isn't so easy in practice.  Herding cats comes to mind.  One or two individuals is much more likely.  The larger the group, the less likely they will stay quiet.

As said above, it has happened, I just think it is difficult and rare as history has shown.

Doesn't seem to of stopped this sort of thing from happening overseas.
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: makattak on February 26, 2015, 08:50:47 AM
The authorities were alerted, they ignored the warning signs.

Additionally, it's a good thing we won't have the government ignoring obvious warning signs in the name of "diversity" ever again...
Title: Re: Gecko45.......Visionary and Prophet.
Post by: TechMan on February 26, 2015, 09:39:19 AM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Ff%2Ff6%2FMC-Mall_Of_America.jpg&hash=f43393cafc3f10a55c17e143c544a6ecbd14028d)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall_Cops:_Mall_of_America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall_Cops:_Mall_of_America)