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Title: What is this weapon?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 10, 2015, 06:57:00 PM
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Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: TommyGunn on March 10, 2015, 07:20:54 PM
Some type of tube-launched anti-tank weapon, it looks like.

Isis got a LOT of American stuff that we left the Iraqis when they ran away in the initial confrontation.
Other stuff has been sold and resold through the underground blackmarkets who knows how they got it, and that includes Soviet, NATO, Southeast Asian and American stuff.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: cordex on March 10, 2015, 07:42:29 PM
9M14 or 9K11 Malyutka?
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: cordex on March 10, 2015, 07:46:52 PM
Yeah, definitely something in that series or a clone.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 10, 2015, 07:54:30 PM
9M14 or 9K11 Malyutka?

So, not 'Murican.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: 41magsnub on March 10, 2015, 07:56:01 PM
That was my first thought.  It was screaming sagger at me.  Must have pulled it off the top of a BMP or something.  Definitely Russian anyway.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: cordex on March 10, 2015, 08:12:23 PM
So, not 'Murican.
As American as мать and lemon pie.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 10, 2015, 08:35:01 PM
Obviously that is one of these M855 armor piercing cop and baby killer bullets the ATF is trying so hard to ban to protect the children.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 10, 2015, 08:36:04 PM
Obviously that is one of these M855 armor piercing cop and baby killer bullets the ATF is trying so hard to ban to protect the children.

Obviously.  It has a green tip.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: MechAg94 on March 10, 2015, 09:14:56 PM
Some type of tube-launched anti-tank weapon, it looks like.

Isis got a LOT of American stuff that we left the Iraqis when they ran away in the initial confrontation.
Other stuff has been sold and resold through the underground blackmarkets who knows how they got it, and that includes Soviet, NATO, Southeast Asian and American stuff.
I have heard some say the reason a bunch of CIA people were in Benghazi was Obama Admin supplying weapons to Muslim Brotherhood. 
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: birdman on March 10, 2015, 09:48:04 PM
Early model AT-3 (9M14).  Early because it doesn't have the standoff probe of its successors.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: Scout26 on March 10, 2015, 09:50:19 PM
That was my first thought.  It was screaming sagger at me.  Must have pulled it off the top of a BMP or something.  Definitely Russian anyway.

Yep, mine to.  I was ready to initiate a Sagger dance when I first saw the photo.   It may be a more recent version, but it's definitely Ruskie.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M14_Malyutka#mediaviewer/File:BMP-1_AP_2.jpg
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: Andiron on March 10, 2015, 10:04:05 PM
Definitely an AK 47 assault rifle*.


What?  that's what the journalist's field handbook-guide-thingy to weapons identification said it was!



*held by some type of masked simian.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: wmenorr67 on March 11, 2015, 06:48:09 AM
But it can't be evil because it isn't black, it doesn't have that thingy that goes up in the back, nor a bayonet lug.
Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 11, 2015, 07:45:16 AM
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Title: Re: What is this weapon?
Post by: RevDisk on March 11, 2015, 08:52:48 AM
Also, Iraq has been a proscribed country under ITAR since September 13, 1990. No US company can ship them weapons, provide defense services or transfer advanced technology. They're also restricted under EAR, so even shipping them a MacBook could get you in legal hot water.
http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/embargoed_countries/
http://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/forms-documents/doc_view/14-commerce-country-chart

In addition, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (formerly al-Qa'ida in Iraq) has been a designated terrorist group by the State Department since 12/17/2004.
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

In addition, they are subject to OFAC sanctions as Special Designated Nationals (SDN) for being a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) and Foreign Sanctions Evaders, Anti-terrorism​ (SDGT).
https://sdnsearch.ofac.treas.gov/Details.aspx?id=1630

So anyone other than the US government transferring weapons to Iraq in general, and ISIS in particular, would be breaking a minimum of three sets of laws. And no bank would take their money, so you'd be selling the weapons for free. And trust me, banks are more than happy to seize assets on behalf of OFAC. It usually just sits on their books until they're removed from the OFAC lists, which can be "never".