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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: vaskidmark on March 23, 2015, 07:13:03 PM
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Could we build a a large fleet of nuclear power plants to desalinate water and pump it several hundred miles inland? Picture massive amounts of water pumped to the head waters of the Missouri river and rivers that flow into it such as the Milk, Yellowstone, North Platte, and South Platt? Then also pump massive quantities to the head waters of the Columbia, Spokane, Colorado, and Arkansas? Also to the inland valleys of California?
Suck that rising seawater up, desalinate it, and pump it back up the riverbeds to dump it at/near the source point where it will travel back down to the sea and re-dilute the sea.
But do the Greens realize that they are proposing scads of nukyewlar power plants to pull this off? :facepalm:
stay safe.
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What do you expect from the same people whose economic sense approves of dipping buckets into the deep end of a pool and dumping it in the shallow end, to make the shallow end deeper?
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We should hire the Koch brothers to build all of the pipelines for pumping that water inland.
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I'm surprised they don't suggest hydroelectric dams for the power, that way the whole thing can power itself. ;/
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What do you expect from the same people whose economic sense approves of dipping buckets into the deep end of a pool and dumping it in the shallow end, to make the shallow end deeper?
What you did there I see.
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"We should hire the Koch brothers to build all of the pipelines for pumping that water inland."
Nah, pipelines are anathema right now. Have to use rail cars and tank trucks.
Either that, or instead of condensing the steam generated during the distillation process, just vent it to the air and blow it inland with giant fans:
(https://energy230.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/wind20turbine211.jpg)
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liberal nutters and commies with an agenda, have given climate change and green energy a bad rap. :O
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"We should hire the Koch brothers to build all of the pipelines for pumping that water inland."
Nah, pipelines are anathema right now. Have to use rail cars and tank trucks.
Either that, or instead of condensing the steam generated during the distillation process, just vent it to the air and blow it inland with giant fans:
(https://energy230.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/wind20turbine211.jpg)
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That's a good idea. Plus the fans would cool down the planet, thus counteracting global warming. We'll have to be careful not to cool it too much or we will have glaciers in Chicago. Win/Win.
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Hmmm, I found this comment interesting:
Whoever made the odds calculations has no background in climate science. Hotter environment is associated with wetter environments. The Holocene climatic optimum was warmer than it is now and had a wet North Africa. If the world continues to warm the odds of this draught drop. If it cools then the odds go up.
For you a thought experiment; what if we used a fleet of nuclear plants to send very large amounts of steam/water vapor into the atmosphere off the west coast? Where would that precipitate out? How much would that warm the planet?
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Either that, or instead of condensing the steam generated during the distillation process, just vent it to the air and blow it inland with giant fans:
True story: a friend of mine and his wife were driving over Altamont Pass a while back. Friend's wife notices the wind farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Pass_Wind_Farm) and asks "What are those?" Without missing a beat, he replies, "Oh those are cooling fans. When it gets too hot in the Central Valley, they turn them on to cool it off."
Had her going for a moment.
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What you did there I see.
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What do you expect from the same people whose economic sense approves of dipping buckets into the deep end of a pool and dumping it in the shallow end, to make the shallow end deeper?
Referring to the gene pool, perhaps?
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Dig canals to places like Death Valley and the Qattara Depression and flood them with ocean water to bring the level down. Or better yet, use wind farms to run desalination plants to fill these places with fresh water and create lakes.
Don't listen to the deniers who start talking about power requirements or the sheer volume of earth to be moved or water to be pumped - they're just being negative. ;)
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"We should hire the Koch brothers to build all of the pipelines for pumping that water inland."
Nah, pipelines are anathema right now. Have to use rail cars and tank trucks.
Either that, or instead of condensing the steam generated during the distillation process, just vent it to the air and blow it inland with giant fans:
(https://energy230.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/wind20turbine211.jpg)
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I like the way you think. Those fans can be powered by windmills. On days that that there is no wind the fans can be run off of Prius batteries which are made of rare earth elements dug from chinese mines by children- its ok as long as all of the global warming and pollution stays on the chinese side of the globe.
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Dig canals to places like Death Valley and the Qattara Depression and flood them with ocean water to bring the level down. Or better yet, use wind farms to run desalination plants to fill these places with fresh water and create lakes.
Don't listen to the deniers who start talking about power requirements or the sheer volume of earth to be moved or water to be pumped - they're just being negative. ;)
For Death Valley, just put in the pipeline. Don't even need pumps if you don't mind a salty lake.
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For Death Valley, just put in the pipeline. Don't even need pumps if you don't mind a salty lake.
A canal would be a navigable waterway, making it fall under the jurisdiction of additional Federal agencies from the EPA to the Corps of Engineers.
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I believe there is a difference in sea level height across the Panama Canal and Suez Canal. Just open a canal from the Pacific side of the Panama Canal directly to the Atlantic side. Same at the Suez. Then all the high water can run through to the other side. =D
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I believe there is a difference in sea level height across the Panama Canal and Suez Canal. Just open a canal from the Pacific side of the Panama Canal directly to the Atlantic side. Same at the Suez. Then all the high water can run through to the other side. =D
No level difference, no need for locks.
Hmmm . . . now, if they open all the locks at the same time, and put in hydroelectric turbines . . .
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The sea level at the Pacific side is about 20 cm (8 in) higher than that of the Atlantic side due to differences in ocean conditions such as water densities and weather.[69]
I think the Panama canal passes ships through a lake or two that are 30 or 50 feet above sea level.
Did not know this about the Suez Canal.
The canal has no locks because of the flat terrain, and the minor sea level difference between each end is inconsequential for shipping.
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I think the Panama canal passes ships through a lake or two that are 30 or 50 feet above sea level.
Did not know this about the Suez Canal.
Correct you are. It passes through Gatun Lake which comprises about 33km of the passage.