Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on April 02, 2015, 11:14:37 AM
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Not even a traffic cop, but a plainclothes guy, apparently on a power trip. Recorded by the driver's fare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SGSrGmHsT8s
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That is not atypical for Noo Yawk police officers.
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That is not atypical for Noo Yawk police officers.
It oughta be. Even as a dumb teenager being pulled over for doing stupid stuff, I never remember any cops yelling at me or otherwise belittling me. Of course I was never pulled over in NYC.
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Does that "supposed" cop even have a uniform on?
So he harasses someone that has witnesses right in the back seat? Its bad enough anyone could be getting that on tape.
I think I would have rolled up the window and called 911 to report an cracked out maniac trying to get into my car.
If the cops don't know that guy there is a good chance the responding officers will have him on the ground quick.
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Road Rage. Plain and simple. Of course, being an ossifer, he gets to play it out.
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Road Rage. Plain and simple. Of course, being an ossifer, he gets to play it out.
He's used to getting it to play out, but with it hitting the internet and getting some media attention, it may play out differently this time.
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He's used to getting it to play out, but with it hitting the internet and getting some media attention, it may play out differently this time.
This one actually made it to MSM prime time with Wolf Blitzer. So yeah, I'm guessing this guy is kicking himself.
I just like how he had the nerve to tell one of the passengers how the driver was holding him up from getting to his destination. If the cop had just shutp and wrote the ticket, they would have been on their way a good while before.
When it's a plainclothes guy pulling someone over for a traffic violation, you can bet it's gonna get ugly. Those guys usually shine on that stuff, at least when they see it happen to other people. This happened to him, so he got a bit of the road rage, it looks like.
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This was discussed a bit on one of the FNC shows - the guy yelling at the driver IS a cop - a detective, working with NYPD's Homeland Security division.
They made comments that this is just ONE bad cop - who has been removed from duty - but he was defended by at least two other NYPD cops; IIRC one was a spokesman for NYPD, the other may have been a union rep. (So . . . I'd say there are at least THREE bad NYPD cops involved with the story, if not the incident itself.)
Oh, and an FNC commentator - either a current or former NYPD cop himself - said the detective wasn't screaming at the cabbie, he was just talking loudly. :rofl:
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I would counter him by saying that the moment you say ****ing this or that, and start slapping and throwing stuff, the level of voice makes no difference.
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Oh, and an FNC commentator - either a current or former NYPD cop himself - said the detective wasn't screaming at the cabbie, he was just talking loudly. :rofl:
I remember some old TV show: a guy's wife told him to stop yelling and he replied, "I AM NOT YELLING! I AM SPEAKING IN A NORMAL NOO YAWK TONE OF VOICE!!"
So maybe the commentator had a point. ;)
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Unreal. I've encountered some real jerk cops, but none have ever talked like that. They at least knew enough to stay within certain bounds.
Cops today should assume that they're going to be recorded.
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A Cop's real duties aren't tough enough, aholes like this have to make sure that the public views them with fear and loathing. Got it, thanks for clearing this up.
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That accent alone makes me want to throat punch him. Holy crap is that obnoxious.
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The City of Noo Yawk is not very happy with Uber for circumventing the official licensed cab system in the city...this incident may be part of that...
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People like that do not have the intelligence or self awareness that would lead them to the understanding that the only thing protecting them from getting shot in the face or bludgeoned to death on a daily basis is a thin veneer of civilization.
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When did plain-clothes cops make traffic stops and write citations?
Do like the local jackwagon who decided to light me up for using my horn to alert him to the fact that he was trying to merge into my driver's-side door. He sat behind me and called for a uniformed officer who listened to both sides of the story and then called for a supervisor to come and take the jackwagon off the road for inappropriate behavior.
Yes, every once in a while the stars do line up just right.
But seriously - write the citation and get on with your business, or get a uniformed officer there to write the citation. I'm sure NYPD uniformed patrol cops would just love to hear a 10-33 call and find out on arrival it was for them to write a citation.
stay safe.
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But seriously - write the citation and get on with your business, or get a uniformed officer there to write the citation. I'm sure NYPD uniformed patrol cops would just love to hear a 10-33 call and find out on arrival it was for them to write a citation.
stay safe.
"Am I being detained, or am I free to go?"
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When did plain-clothes cops make traffic stops and write citations?
I've seen it a few times. With the last one I saw, the plain-clothes cop getting out of his unmarked was chewing gum and walking with a scumbag swagger (think Al Pacino in "Heat"). He just reeked of attitude. I'm sure that motorist had a bad day.
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This was discussed a bit on one of the FNC shows - the guy yelling at the driver IS a cop - a detective, working with NYPD's Homeland Security division.
They made comments that this is just ONE bad cop - who has been removed from duty - but he was defended by at least two other NYPD cops; IIRC one was a spokesman for NYPD, the other may have been a union rep. (So . . . I'd say there are at least THREE bad NYPD cops involved with the story, if not the incident itself.)
Oh, and an FNC commentator - either a current or former NYPD cop himself - said the detective wasn't screaming at the cabbie, he was just talking loudly. :rofl:
Nothing says securing the Homeland like writing traffic tickets. Their meter maids are now part of the anti-terrorist squad, and of course get special hazard pay for it.
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The City of Noo Yawk is not very happy with Uber for circumventing the official licensed cab system in the city...this incident may be part of that...
A lot of big cities are upset with Uber for that. They had this nice protected market that is getting upset by unregulated competition. Might as well try to wheel a food cart into the Airport to compete with the food vendors there.
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A lot of big cities are upset with Uber for that. They had this nice protected market that is getting upset by unregulated competition. Might as well try to wheel a food cart into the Airport to compete with the food vendors there.
The taxi licensing scheme is pretty much the same thing as racketeering, the police are the enforcers.
Cut through all of the copsucking and 9/11 hero BS, and the NYPD doesn't look like much more than a street gang or mob that happens to have spiffy uniforms. Their antics over the last several years hasn't proven them otherwise.
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An interesting article on why Uber has won the taxi wars and no it is not a rick roll link.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/its-already-over-and-uber-has-won#.lcMxWWv8K (http://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/its-already-over-and-uber-has-won#.lcMxWWv8K)
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An interesting article on why Uber has won the taxi wars and no it is not a rick roll link.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/its-already-over-and-uber-has-won#.lcMxWWv8K (http://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/its-already-over-and-uber-has-won#.lcMxWWv8K)
In short, they manage to provide such a superior service, despite various articles that seem to imply that Uber isn't checking it's drivers so, horror of horrors, your driver might be a sex offender or serial killer*, that said customers are willing to grass-roots campaign on Uber's behalf.
Sounds a bit like Telsa, but on a larger scale.
*Never mind the numerous, numerous incidents involving Taxis and that Uber gives you the easy ability to rate a driver at 1 star, and if they go below 4.2 stars, they're fired.
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I made use of uber a few times when we were up in boston a few months ago.
Uber excellent, the one taxi we took did not even know where paul revers house was. I had to look it up on my phone and give him the address. It was only 5 blocks away, I just did not realize it.
People "taxi drivers and politicians" were complaining about uber here in NJ.
Funny thing when you actually dig NJ makes you have more insurance for a car, than a legal taxi in NYC.
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The cop got upset because the Uber driver suggested that the cop use his blinkers.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/an-nypd-cop-on-a-power-trip-verbally-abuses-an-immigrant-uber-driver/389390/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/an-nypd-cop-on-a-power-trip-verbally-abuses-an-immigrant-uber-driver/389390/)
The cop got demoted and then apologized.
http://nypost.com/2015/04/01/cop-that-berated-uber-driver-stripped-of-badge-and-gun/ (http://nypost.com/2015/04/01/cop-that-berated-uber-driver-stripped-of-badge-and-gun/)
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I can't help but think that this might improve our police forces a bit - a cop might not get away with any ONE incident, probably most of them.
But most cops caught in stuff like this are known problem-children, and most cops that perform a 'marginal' shoot have lots of disciplinary issues.
With recording devices being as common as they are today, they should be filtered out of the police pool more often, sooner.
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The cop got upset because the Uber driver suggested that the cop use his blinkers.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/an-nypd-cop-on-a-power-trip-verbally-abuses-an-immigrant-uber-driver/389390/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/an-nypd-cop-on-a-power-trip-verbally-abuses-an-immigrant-uber-driver/389390/)
The cop got demoted and then apologized.
http://nypost.com/2015/04/01/cop-that-berated-uber-driver-stripped-of-badge-and-gun/ (http://nypost.com/2015/04/01/cop-that-berated-uber-driver-stripped-of-badge-and-gun/)
Call me cynical, but I'd put my money on cherry being out on tje street in the same capacity in a week or two when this all blows over.
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Interesting that in the first story, the police union talks about it being unfair to come down on someone for an "isolated" incident, while the second story relates that the officer had a dozen prior, and similar complaints. Maybe I don't understand the definition of "isolated".
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I believe you just don't understand union
Your English definition is spot on
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Last night on the NBC network news, the cop did a segment in which he admitted he screwed up and he apologized. That always helps to defuse these situations.
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If a CCRB judge finds Cherry guilty of misconduct, he could end up with a permanent mark on his record, sources said. But any disciplinary action would be solely up to Bratton, who ultimately has final say.
Ooh! The dreaded permanent mark on his record. How many of us went through school toeing the line just to avoid that happening to us?
Cherry has been the subject of a dozen prior CCRB complaints, going back more than 10 years, some for exhibiting the same sort of verbal abuse, a source said.
I don't know about NYPD but a lot of folks consider that a "clue".
stay safe.
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Last night on the NBC network news, the cop did a segment in which he admitted he screwed up and he apologized. That always helps to defuse these situations.
Did Cherry make his apology directly to the Uber driver, or was it more along the lines of "I'm sorry I got caught"?
stay safe.
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Last night on the NBC network news, the cop did a segment in which he admitted he screwed up and he apologized. That always helps to defuse these situations.
While I would normally agree that's the way things should go, and I even partially agree here, I have to echo and add to what Skid said.
An apology carries a lot of weight if it's a first time offense, and directed at the person(s) due the apology. It carries less weight as a public statement in the "I got caught" vein. It carries a lot less weight when it's the first apology of a repeat offender who doesn't want to lose his place "on the prestigious Homeland Security Task Force".
Of course the idea of stepping up and admitting mistakes without adding excuses or extenuating circumstances transcends any particular occupation and applies to most things in life.
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He's the type of sociopath the city wants for cracking skulls and keeping the serfs in line. He's not going anywhere until he screws up so big that he costs the city money or riots, and even then its iffy.
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He's the type of sociopath the city wants for cracking skulls and keeping the serfs in line. He's not going anywhere until he screws up so big that he costs the city money or riots, and even then its iffy.
Indeed.
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He's one of the "rough men" who supposedly make it possible for the rest of us to sleep at night.
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Yep, popular media seems to treat apologies like get out of jail free cards sometimes.
While I would normally agree that's the way things should go, and I even partially agree here, I have to echo and add to what Skid said.
An apology carries a lot of weight if it's a first time offense, and directed at the person(s) due the apology. It carries less weight as a public statement in the "I got caught" vein. It carries a lot less weight when it's the first apology of a repeat offender who doesn't want to lose his place "on the prestigious Homeland Security Task Force".
Of course the idea of stepping up and admitting mistakes without adding excuses or extenuating circumstances transcends any particular occupation and applies to most things in life.