Post by: Perd Hapley on October 27, 2006, 09:05:15 AM
social justice - is there a kind that's not social?
moral authority - what does that mean?
assault weapons - as opposed to...?
Got any more? We can also bring up phrases used by righties or libertarians.
Post by: CAnnoneer on October 27, 2006, 09:26:03 AM
expectation of security
The American people demand...
gun=nuke
It stands to reason...
Most people agree...
lift the third world out of poverty
fully-automatic revolver
progressive
world peace
for the children
for the greater good
needs of the many outweigh rights of the few
Post by: wmenorr67 on October 27, 2006, 09:31:37 AM
Post by: The Rabbi on October 27, 2006, 10:20:26 AM
universal health care
Post by: richyoung on October 27, 2006, 11:22:10 AM
"a woman's right to choose...."
"a woman's right to control her own body..."
"income redistribution"
"transfer payment"
"safety net"
"universal health care"
"nobody needs a(n) [assault weapon, flash hider, detachable magazine, bayonet lug, folding stock, 50 cal rifle, sniper rifle, more than 10 rounds, fully automatic] to [hunt, protect themself, target shoot]..."
"cop-killer bullets"
"razor-sharp petals"
"plastic guns that go right through metal detectors without setting them off..."
"Global warming is a settled issue..."
"What would Jesus Drive?" - (considereing He had 12 desciples, I'm thinking a 15 passenger van...)
Post by: Iain on October 27, 2006, 11:38:05 AM
Post by: HankB on October 27, 2006, 11:41:17 AM
" . . . animals are people, too . . . "
"We're going to ask those more fortunate to contribute/share . . . " (Ask? And if they say no?)
" . . . reasonable gun control . . ."
" . . . teddy bears are regulated more than guns . . . "
" . . . diversity . . . "
"There's no bias in the media . . . "
Any ethnicity with a hyphen. (African-American, Asian-American, etc. See Teddy Roosevelt's words on hyphenated Americans.)
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 27, 2006, 11:57:32 AM
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" . . . a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy . . ."
Was that Singer or Newkirk?Quote
Any ethnicity with a hyphen. (African-American, Asian-American, etc. See Teddy Roosevelt's words on hyphenated Americans.)
The problem isn't the hyphenated names, it's how the left can't quit harping on the issue. Sometimes we need a hyphen if we're talking about an American and their ancestry is important to the topic at hand. The problem is that these long names are used as some sort of shiboleth to see if you're appropriately tolerant of other races. As if African-American is more respectful than Black or Negro.* Or Asian is more acceptable than Oriental, which simply means Eastern. *For some reason, Negro is a bad word, while Black is usually acceptable. In reality, Black American is a more accurate term for most Negros in America. The slaves weren't allowed to bring much of their culture with them, or have any connection to the old country after they arrived, the way other immigrants did. So how African are they? For that matter, an Egyptian-American is more African-American than the descendants of American slaves.
Post by: grampster on October 27, 2006, 12:29:56 PM
Post by: Monkeyleg on October 27, 2006, 12:56:16 PM
I also dislike the hyphenated ethnic labels. My mother's father was from England, her mother from Finland. My dad's father was also from England, his mother from Ireland. There's also some German in our ancestry.
So, as an English-Finnish-Irish-German-American, what demands can I make of my government?
Post by: brimic on October 27, 2006, 01:16:09 PM
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So, as an English-Finnish-Irish-German-American, what demands can I make of my government?
None. You are obviously an oppressor.My list:
-The working poor
-White flight
-Elderly people have to eat dog food to afford health care
-Balancing the budget on the backs of the.... (insert working poor, or middle class)
Post by: Monkeyleg on October 27, 2006, 01:36:50 PM
"Don't you care about..."
"If it saves one life..."
"If we can put a man on the moon..."
"We should first try to reason with (insert dictator or criminal here)."
"A reasonable law to..."
"A reasonable first step to..."
"A common-sense approach to..."
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 27, 2006, 02:02:14 PM
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Balancing the budget on the backs of the.... (insert working poor, or middle class)
It seems like the working class (like myself) get very little press these days. Everybody's worried about the middle class. I thought "middle class" meant you were doing well enough to get buy, even if George Bush gives a tax break to the rich at your expense. More:
We spend 8 trillion dollars a year on the military but only 20 billion per year on [some wasteful, marginally Constitutional program].
Speaking of the economy as if it were a zero-sum game, where no one ever changes their behavior to get around whatever the left is trying to push on them.
Post by: StopTheGrays on October 27, 2006, 03:38:52 PM
racist
fascist
homophobe
elitist
zionist
Post by: doczinn on October 27, 2006, 03:48:20 PM
for your own good (Both sides use that one. Like they know jack about what's good for me.)
Bushitler
Post by: CAnnoneer on October 27, 2006, 05:05:08 PM
working class (the rest of us don't work?)
Hehehehe. Yes, that one is a classic. By that definition, Donald Trump, Warren Buffet, and Bill Gates are proletariat! Maybe only Paris Hilton is not. It just comes to show how stuck in early 1900s class-struggle terminology the leftists truly are.
Post by: grampster on October 27, 2006, 05:45:30 PM
I have known her for about 40 years. During that time I have judged the way I have felt about issues a number of times and have softened, ameliorated or mitigated, or yes, hardened my position as I gained knowledge. She, on the other, hand remains entrenched in her ignorance throughout all those years. There is no possibility of hoping that she might have an original thought. Sad.
Post by: Warren on October 28, 2006, 01:09:12 AM
Why do you need...
wage gap...
tech gap...
patriarchy....
violence never solves anything....
empower.....
speak truth to power.....(this one really grinds my gears)
white flight.....
performance art.....
womyn...
women's studies...
tolerence...(in the non-engineering sense)
gender-based
Post by: Stickjockey on October 28, 2006, 05:14:03 AM
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2006, 05:49:45 AM
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tolerence...(in the non-engineering sense)
One of the most misunderstood words of our day. Did you know you can't tolerate something unless you disapprove of it? "Cycle of violence" is good left-speak, but what about "the peace process"? Is there such a thing? I'm inclined to agree with Rush Limbaugh's view that the peace process involves the utter, military defeat of the enemy.
Post by: CAnnoneer on October 28, 2006, 08:18:14 AM
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"Cycle of violence" is good left-speak, but what about "the peace process"? Is there such a thing? I'm inclined to agree with Rush Limbaugh's view that the peace process involves the utter, military defeat of the enemy.
In the leftist mind, Neville Chamberlain had a "valid approach to world peace". I prefer Gen. George Patton's and Gen. Curtis LeMay's. I wonder what the leftists would do under the Nazis. Put on a beret, sip wine, and hide in a cheese cellar?
Post by: The Rabbi on October 28, 2006, 03:22:49 PM
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*For some reason, Negro is a bad word, while Black is usually acceptable. In reality, Black American is a more accurate term for most Negros in America. The slaves weren't allowed to bring much of their culture with them, or have any connection to the old country after they arrived, the way other immigrants did. So how African are they? For that matter, an Egyptian-American is more African-American than the descendants of American slaves.
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I am sorry that "Negro" got such bad press. It is a perfectly good word, cognate with other words in European languages for the same thing. As mentioned there is nothing very "African" about these folks.
At our synagogue both the president and gabbai (sort of a choreographer of the service) are South Africans. Both are American citizens. THey both tend to sit in the front, so I joke that our synagogue has seats in the fronts for its African-American members.
I sometimes call myself a "Native American" since I was born here.
Post by: doczinn on October 28, 2006, 05:12:40 PM
always used as an insult, or a debate-ender.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2006, 06:29:57 PM
Negro IS a perfectly good word. Isn't that what Dr. King called himself? Maybe Negro or Black are a little bit off-the-mark as this doesn't perfectly describe the skin tone, but isn't it close enough? I don't mind being called White, though I ain't no vampire. What annoys me is being called "Caucasian." What do the Caucases have to do with me? One more thing on that subject, I find it proper to capitalize Black, so I also capitalize White. Every time I do, though, I have this funny feeling that only white supremacists do this. I don't want to come off as a racist, but am I right that there is a double standard at work?
I also agree on "Native American." I prefer "Aboriginal American."
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 29, 2006, 05:19:11 AM
Sometimes we need a hyphen if we're talking about an American and their ancestry is important to the topic at hand. The problem is that these long names are used as some sort of shiboleth to see if you're appropriately tolerant of other races. As if African-American is more respectful than Black or Negro.* Or Asian is more acceptable than Oriental, which simply means Eastern.
Why do we need hypens if ancestry is important?My family is Scottish on the maternal grandfather's side and English on the paternal grandfather's side. My mother, my father and I were all born in the United States. I'm an American. If for some reason it's important to a discussion to note that my ethnicity is Anglo, calling me an "Anglo-American" doesn't provide much specificity. "Scottish-American"? That omits my father's side of the family entirely. Plus, I've never been to Scotland and I don't speak, read or write Gaelic. I'm no more "Scottish" than most "African-Americans" are African.
What's wrong with using words as they were intended to be used, and saying that I am an American of Scottish and English ancestry? It conveys the information accurately, succinctly, and with no need for idiotic hypens.
Post by: doczinn on October 29, 2006, 06:50:19 AM
Post by: grampster on October 29, 2006, 07:29:03 AM
