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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: MillCreek on May 04, 2015, 10:06:23 AM
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I am going to have to read up on her; I know just about nothing other than her role as the CEO of HP.
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I am going to have to read up on her; I know just about nothing other than her role as the CEO of HP.
She took two large mediocre computer & peripheral companies (HP & Compaq) and merged them into a single, larger mediocre computer & peripheral company.
Other than that, she is a cypher and a California Republican.
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The site doesn't have updated stances for 2016, but this is where she was last time around:
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Carly_Fiorina.htm
I'm still waiting for other conservative candidates to shake out, but I would certainly vote for her over Jeb Bush.
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The site doesn't have updated stances for 2016, but this is where she was last time around:
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Carly_Fiorina.htm
I'm still waiting for other conservative candidates to shake out, but I would certainly vote for her over Jeb Bush.
I'd stay home, watch midget porn and drink vodka over voting for another Bush, much less Jeb. He spent the weekend lobbying for legalizing illegal immigrants.
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The site doesn't have updated stances for 2016, but this is where she was last time around:
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Carly_Fiorina.htm
I'm still waiting for other conservative candidates to shake out, but I would certainly vote for her over Jeb Bush.
As I had thought, she is an acceptable candidate. I'd prefer to have a candidate who has served in office to better gauge their sincerity, but overall, she seems good.
Incidentally- I think Republicans need to get in the identity politics game. It's stupid and it's detrimental to the country- but clearly it works. Not playing the game now does nothing to benefit the country as the voters clearly don't care about unity.
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My first thought was "Who?"
That might be a good thing.
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As I had thought, she is an acceptable candidate. I'd prefer to have a candidate who has served in office to better gauge their sincerity, but overall, she seems good.
Incidentally- I think Republicans need to get in the identity politics game. It's stupid and it's detrimental to the country- but clearly it works. Not playing the game now does nothing to benefit the country as the voters clearly don't care about unity.
If they are just going to play games, then yes, I agree with you. If Ted Cruz or Rand Paul can simply talk about and defend some common sense limited govt ideas, I think that would be better.
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I'd stay home, watch midget porn and drink vodka over voting for another Bush, much less Jeb. He spent the weekend lobbying for legalizing illegal immigrants.
You say that like that wasn't already on your agenda.
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You say that like that wasn't already on your agenda.
I thought this was his standard weekend.
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Well you also have Ben Carson jumping into the fire also. The Republicans are about to do the same thing they have done the past couple of tries, flood the market and beat each other up during the primaries and not bring forward one solid candidate. :facepalm:
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Why bother worrying about having a solid republican candidate after 8 years of Obama?
Oh.
Right .... Hillary. [tinfoil] [popcorn] :facepalm:
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Or any other Democrat.
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Or any other Democrat.
Some of them are just NOT prime time players either.
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I'd vote for her as a Veep on a Walker or Paul or Perry (in that order) ticket
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I'd stay home, watch midget porn and drink vodka over voting for another Bush, much less Jeb.
Bar in the headboard, mirror on the ceiling?
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I've talked to a few HP employees that were there during her tenure as CEO. She is not remembered fondly. Though one or two of her successors are remembered even less fondly. Given the remembrances of Carly, that takes some doing.
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I heard someone mention Trump was interviewed about the shooting in Garland, TX and talked about how foolish it was to provoke Muslims. I hope that was just an exaggeration of what he said, but he won't get far with me with that attitude.
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I heard someone mention Trump was interviewed about the shooting in Garland, TX and talked about how foolish it was to provoke Muslims. I hope that was just an exaggeration of what he said, but he won't get far with me with that attitude.
I was just reading up on Ben Carson today and am not thrilled with some of his positions either. Especially on guns. I'm not a "gun rights uber alles" voter, but I have always found that the closer a candidate is aligned with my views on the 2nd, the closer their views on most other topics align with mine. Carson isn't overly anti-gun, and perhaps could be called sorta pro-gun, but statements like, "semi-automatics are okay in the country, but not the city" don't exactly thrill me.
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I heard someone mention Trump was interviewed about the shooting in Garland, TX and talked about how foolish it was to provoke Muslims. I hope that was just an exaggeration of what he said, but he won't get far with me with that attitude.
Trump is a shitbag...
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California Republican that's pretty damning statement in its self she made a statement today that she was relieved that the 6 police officers were charged in Baltimore
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Now Huckebee is tossing his cookies into the ring.
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Now Huckebee is tossing his cookies into the ring.
Meh. Unexciting, but I'd take him over a lot of the other noise makers.
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You say that like that wasn't already on your agenda.
=D Sounds like a good day to me =D
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Meh. Unexciting, but I'd take him over a lot of the other noise makers.
My thoughts on Huckabee.
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She took two large mediocre computer & peripheral companies (HP & Compaq) and merged them into a single, larger mediocre computer & peripheral company.
Other than that, she is a cypher and a California Republican.
One description of her time at HP (which I haven't researched, and won't until she seems to actually be a contender worth my time to research) is that she was willing to take the heat and make some unpopular changes that were necessary to advance the company (or at least allow it to survive.)
If true, that's the kind of person we need.
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One description of her time at HP (which I haven't researched, and won't until she seems to actually be a contender worth my time to research) is that she was willing to take the heat and make some unpopular changes that were necessary to advance the company (or at least allow it to survive.)
If true, that's the kind of person we need.
I don;t know if it was necessary. The resulting company was nothing to write home about. Just as middling, but bigger.
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Eh, it's debatable that HP is a "middling" company, but it's also largely irrelevant. Fiorina saw HP through the dot com blowup. The fact HP survived at all is no mean feat.
Fiorina started as a secretary and worked her way up to the very top of the ladder at AT&T/Lucent and then HP. I don't know much about her politics, but her business chops are solid.
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I don't know much about her politics, but her business chops are solid.
Which is kind of an endorsement to Birdman's suggestion. It would nice to have a VP that actually did some work. Though I suspect her skills would serve much better in a few of the Secretary roles.
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Which is kind of an endorsement to Birdman's suggestion. It would nice to have a VP that actually did some work. Though I suspect her skills would serve much better in a few of the Secretary roles.
Can anyone tell me what the VP's actual role is in the government?
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Can anyone tell me what the VP's actual role is in the government?
1. They're the warm failover for the prez.
2. They preside over the senate.
3. Cast tiebreaking votes in the sentate.
4. Molest the womenfolk. Oh, sorry, that's a duty Creepy Rob Lowe Joe Biden created.
Chris
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Can anyone tell me what the VP's actual role is in the government?
They (hopefully) help the president to win elections.
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Can anyone tell me what the VP's actual role is in the government?
The Vice President has little real power. However, he can take on a role as a political enforcer and close advisor to the president.
Or he can be the court jester. Clearly, we have the latter well illustrated these past 6+ years.
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You forgot Assassination Insurance....in one of two ways.
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The VP's only job spelled out in the Constitution is to be the presiding officer of the Senate. He/She only has a vote to break a tie. Other than that the VP is the President's lackey.
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One description of her time at HP (which I haven't researched, and won't until she seems to actually be a contender worth my time to research) is that she was willing to take the heat and make some unpopular changes that were necessary to advance the company (or at least allow it to survive.)
If true, that's the kind of person we need.
Partly true. She started as a management trainee at AT&T. Did alright to very good in middle senior management. HP packaged up all their old non-IT stuff and spun it off as Agilent Technologies. Which has done alright. There was some other... not hugely controversial but not great decisions. At HP, the merger with Compaq was a slow motion car crash and the pivotal moment of HP's slow decline ever since. In my opinion, she was a not terrible but not great CEO. She made a very bad call on the HP/Compaq deal. HP hasn't done well since.
I'm not a fan because she's a big believer in globalization, offshoring and H1B expansion. Very much a "this quarter earnings", and not a long term strategist. I wouldn't want her as a president. I have no doubts she would do good things for shareholders, but I'd expect very much an attitude of "kick the American workers in the nuts until things work out."
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Per McCain, the job of Veep is to inquire daily about the health of POTUS, and to attend the funerals of third-world leaders.