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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on May 18, 2015, 10:47:48 AM
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I was all set to say "Hurray Obama admin - you did something good!". Then I read the story and saw he made a practically Republican move with the whole, "Here's what we're doing (and here are all the exceptions)."
No tracked vehicles, but up-armored wheeled vehicles are still okie-dokie. No firearms or ammo .50cal or larger, but M-4s by the boatload are still good to go. No camo uniforms. Wow.
I guess on the bright side, it's a start at least.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/18/obama-announces-restrictions-on-distribution-military-style-equipment-to-police/
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I want to see it changed to "only" tracked vehicles. No way they will keep up with the maintenance.
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I want to see it changed to "only" tracked vehicles. No way they will keep up with the maintenance.
Good point. You can see that a lot with the helos. A lot of these local agencies have no idea what it costs to maintain a 212 until they get one "for free!".
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Meh. I have no problems with them getting
free cheap M4s. I just wish I could get them too. =|
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I want to see it changed to "only" tracked vehicles. No way they will keep up with the maintenance.
Ha, the maintenance on the MRAP's won't be easy or cheap either.
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Meh. I have no problems with them getting free cheap M4s. I just wish I could get them too. =|
We should have CMP 50 cal machine guns IMO.
Personally, I don't see an issue with selling grenade launchers. They could still restrict the explosive shells.
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Not even a start to addressing the issues.
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I would pay money to watch a bunch of cops break track on a 113 or Bradley.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I would pay money to watch a bunch of cops break track on a 113 or Bradley.
Hell, I'd pay to watch them try to use bayonets without stabbing each other.
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I would pay money to watch a bunch of cops break track on a 113 or Bradley.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Oh hell yeah.
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They probably have a service contract with an equipment company . It have a couple guys who are former tankers
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They probably have a service contract with an equipment company . It have a couple guys who are former tankers
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yep. They could hire someone like Boomhaur to fix their broken tracks. =D
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yep. They could hire someone like Boomhaur to fix their broken tracks. =D
I think I'd rather break track myself then have the Icon of Anger come fix my stuff.
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I think I'd rather break track myself then have the Icon of Anger come fix my stuff.
well shoot, I bet he'd be smiling if you paid him enough.
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I would pay money to watch a bunch of cops break track on a 113 or Bradley.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
County over from us have a 113 that hasn't moved.. er.. ever?
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Ha, the maintenance on the MRAP's won't be easy or cheap either.
Pfffft.
The police department in the next town got a "free" Hummer.
It hasn't run in two years ...
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Pfffft.
The police department in the next town got a "free" Hummer.
It hasn't run in two years ...
They probably lost the keys.
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They probably lost the keys.
They don't have keys? Assuming we are talking an issue HMMWV, which we should be.
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They probably lost the keys.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Good thing our small town already got their APC! :police:
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So to sum up Obama's action, other then "No tracked vehicles", it's really no change, and you'll now have by your camo either on line or at a surplus store like everyone else...
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They probably lost the keys.
They don't have keys? Assuming we are talking an issue HMMWV, which we should be.
I was going to say that but I think there was a touch of sarcasm in his post.
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I was going to say that but I think there was a touch of sarcasm in his post.
Ooops. I knew it surprised me the first time I started mine up.
In other news, like I said when this first became an issue, the issue is not the equipment. It is the training, mindset, and permissive legal climate. They can still get most (if not all) of this same equipment from the vendor. The only difference is instead of getting a free USGI surplus M4 they are paying LEO pricing for a new one from FN. Or what have you.
Frankly, as taxpayers we should probably be demanding that cops use surplus gear because it will save money. But if people want to see a change in the way police operate, something besides the source of their equipment will have to change.
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I like the cops having M4s, at least. They can't be horrible weapons of war that don't belong on our streets, if Officer Friendly keeps one in the trunk.
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Frankly, as taxpayers we should probably be demanding that cops use surplus gear because it will save money. But if people want to see a change in the way police operate, something besides the source of their equipment will have to change.
This is very true. I would just like to see both the surplus, and newly purchased gear, be something reasonable for dealing with US citizens, versus the "enemy combatant" mindset when they put their gear wishlists together.
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They don't have keys? Assuming we are talking an issue HMMWV, which we should be.
:D
You never did the "Go ask SSGt for the HMMWV keys" to a particularly stupid or annoying new kid?
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No, but some wise guy in the unit that relieved us did send the new guy in to ask our OPS SGM if he knew where to find a PRC E-9. SGM was in a good mood that day so he just looked at one of the NCOs and told him to straighten the kid out.
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No, but some wise guy in the unit that relieved us did send the new guy in to ask our OPS SGM if he knew where to find a PRC E-9. SGM was in a good mood that day so he just looked at one of the NCOs and told him to straighten the kid out.
Must have been a sanguine one.
I can't imagine pulling any of those without the Staff NCO in question being really cool or highly respected. Our motor t SSgt was a good ol' boy from Tn that enjoyed practical jokes.