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Title: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: Regolith on May 28, 2015, 01:38:55 AM
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-los-angeles-minimum-wage-unions-20150526-story.html
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Labor leaders, who were among the strongest supporters of the citywide [$15] minimum wage increase approved last week by the Los Angeles City Council, are advocating last-minute changes to the law that could create an exemption for companies with unionized workforces.

Or: The True definition of chutzpah.

Step 1: Get the government to artificially inflate everyone's labor costs.
Step 2: Get unions excepted, making them the cheapest labor in town.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit.

Their only problem might be that it's just too obvious and too hypocritical, even for ultra-progressives to choke down. Then again, progs have never been known for their critical thinking skills...

Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 28, 2015, 02:40:29 AM
I've seen some weird union *expletive deleted*it get accepted by the rank and file.
Several years ago my local had a bunch of remodeling done at the union hall. They went with nnon-union labor because it was cheaper. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: Regolith on May 28, 2015, 04:33:38 AM
I've seen some weird union *expletive deleted*it get accepted by the rank and file.
Several years ago my local had a bunch of remodeling done at the union hall. They went with nnon-union labor because it was cheaper. :facepalm:


That's kind of like that time when a union fired an employee for trying to unionize (http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=25670.0).

And they wonder why unions are floundering.... :rofl:
Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: Scout26 on May 28, 2015, 03:59:56 PM
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"With a collective bargaining agreement, a business owner and the employees negotiate an agreement that works for them both. The agreement allows each party to prioritize what is important to them," Hicks said in a statement. "This provision gives the parties the option, the freedom, to negotiate that agreement. And that is a good thing."

If it works for groups of people, shouldn't it also work for individuals?
Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: brimic on May 28, 2015, 04:34:13 PM
Raise minimum wage to $15 per hour.
Unionize McDonalds stores.
Drop starting union pay rate to $3/hour.

 >:D
Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: Doggy Daddy on May 28, 2015, 04:48:49 PM
Raise minimum wage to $15 per hour.
Unionize McDonalds stores.
Drop starting union pay rate to $3/hour.

 >:D

So, they're making it economically necessary for businesses to unionize to keep their labor costs low.  Anybody that doesn't unionize will have to pay higher labor costs.  Once all the places are either unionized or out of business,  the unions strike for higher wages.

4.) Profit.
Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: MechAg94 on May 28, 2015, 09:12:08 PM
Except not enough businesses will unionize to make a difference and the local cost of living will go up even higher.  Lower paid union workers will be left with less money to deal with it. 

It is amusing that unions are fighting for less wages. 
Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: AJ Dual on May 29, 2015, 11:38:11 AM
Don't forget that many union contracts are indexed as a multiple or percentage of the local minimum wage.
Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: MechAg94 on May 29, 2015, 12:15:54 PM
Don't forget that many union contracts are indexed as a multiple or percentage of the local minimum wage.
But if they get an exemption, I bet the companies fight any increase in pay.  I'll bet this is for minimum wage union guys or at least places they know will lay workers off if the cost of labor increases.
Title: Re: Bond Villain Level: Unlocked
Post by: Devonai on May 29, 2015, 04:30:27 PM
If lightning struck every single SEIU hack (not members) then my belief in a just and benevolent god would be renewed.  Then I would shrug and go back to browsing the internet.