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Title: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Ben on June 17, 2015, 10:19:29 PM
Looks like they want to give Hamilton the axe. Kinda ironic considering his role in US finances.

http://twitchy.com/2015/06/17/why-would-you-target-him-treasury-dept-reportedly-giving-alexander-hamilton-the-boot/
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 12:54:04 AM
Interesting. You'd think they'd go after someone like Washington, as his slave-owning is well-known. (I don't know if Hamilton owned any slaves. Even if he did, it's not really something he's known for.) Then again, Hamilton's easy to go after, as no one knows who he was. No one will care enough to defend him.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: gunsmith on June 18, 2015, 01:39:50 AM
I'm acquainted with a Hamilton here in Reno, I told him I'm related to Burr - he got all fired up about what a bastard Burr was. :old:
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 18, 2015, 06:30:59 AM
With the  current batch of nutbags running things I wouldn't be surprised to see Jenner on the new bill.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: vaskidmark on June 18, 2015, 06:44:12 AM
With the  current batch of nutbags running things I wouldn't be surprised to see Jenner on the new bill.


The $3.00 bill is finally coming out?  I always thought it would be more colorful.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 07:21:17 AM
With the  current batch of nutbags running things I wouldn't be surprised to see Jenner on the new bill.



Can we leave Bruce Jender out of this? :)
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: brimic on June 18, 2015, 08:23:41 AM

Can we leave Bruce Jender out of this? :)

Who said anything about Bruce?
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: brimic on June 18, 2015, 08:28:21 AM
I really don't mind getting rid of Hamilton..
Reminds me, a couple of local morning FM radio hosts always talked about starting a 'sand FDR off the dimes' campaign.  >:D
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: charby on June 18, 2015, 08:33:23 AM
Bring back the $500 bill, then put a woman on it.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: K Frame on June 18, 2015, 09:21:04 AM
I'd be quite cool with losing Grant off the $50 and replacing him with John Adams. Or even Doug Adams, for that matter.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 09:37:07 AM
Would it be sexist to suggest that, whoever they choose, they put the lady on the dime? ;)
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Ben on June 18, 2015, 09:39:45 AM
My first thought was also either bring back one of the older denominations (I remember the $1000 bill my mom & dad gave my sister at her wedding when I was a kid) or else swap out Grant on the $50.

My guess is that they want to do this with a ubiquitous denomination to make sure everyone knows about the diversity. I haven't done a search, but am curious as to how many other paper denominations have made a switch, and why. I wonder who they'll choose? Susan B. Anthony already had her chance.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: vaskidmark on June 18, 2015, 09:51:04 AM
Would it be sexist to suggest that, whoever they choose, they put the lady on the dime quarter? ;)

I know I'm going to be hit with a purse full of them, but I could not resist.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 09:51:33 AM
My guess is that they want to do this with a ubiquitous denomination to make sure everyone knows about the diversity.


Well, Washington and Lincoln are too popular. I would have thought they'd go after Jackson, though. He's been in for some hate recently, and doesn't have the same positives as Washington.

Also, they can't take Lincoln off the currency. He's our first gay president.  ;/
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Ron on June 18, 2015, 10:17:37 AM
n/m
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Ben on June 18, 2015, 10:24:08 AM
Upon further reading, it appears the groups wanting this were actually aiming for the $20, however the $10 is already up for a redesign, so Treasury went with that one. At least they're showing some fiscal responsibility.

I wonder why the couldn't do a concurrent run of two different versions? Apparently that was done with George and Martha on the $1 bill for a while in the early 20th century.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Pb on June 18, 2015, 10:44:04 AM
Get rid of the evil Democrat Jackson.

Replace him with Reagan.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: K Frame on June 18, 2015, 10:48:00 AM
My first thought was also either bring back one of the older denominations (I remember the $1000 bill my mom & dad gave my sister at her wedding when I was a kid) or else swap out Grant on the $50.

My guess is that they want to do this with a ubiquitous denomination to make sure everyone knows about the diversity. I haven't done a search, but am curious as to how many other paper denominations have made a switch, and why. I wonder who they'll choose? Susan B. Anthony already had her chance.


List of pipples on US currency notes (not just bank notes): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_on_United_States_banknotes

So what if Susan was on a coin that failed to catch on due to the stupidity of the US Mint and the cowardice of Congress? Abe, Tom, Ben, and George have all been on coins and bills.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Jamisjockey on June 18, 2015, 10:52:44 AM
My only question is which of these aholes will be on the Quadrillion Dollar bill?
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: brimic on June 18, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
My only question is which of these aholes will be on the Quadrillion Dollar bill?

Hopefully Obama.
We can use it as a substitute for TP when a whole wheelbarrow full of them will no longer buy you an 8-roll pack of Charmin.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: lee n. field on June 18, 2015, 11:16:00 AM
With the  current batch of nutbags running things I wouldn't be surprised to see Jenner on the new bill.


That there.

Diety of Choice only knows what they'll dig up.

(I've long pondered what our money out to look like.  I'm no fan of dead pols or political correctness.  I like this:  One side, a picture of some striking American natural scenery.  Yellowstone.  Grand Canyon.  Something like that.  Other side: a depiction of a American achievement:  The lunar lander.  The iconic photo of the joining of the two halves of the trancontinantal railway.  Vast wheat or corn fields with a harvester.  The NYC skyline.)
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: lee n. field on June 18, 2015, 11:16:33 AM
Bring back the $500 bill, then put a woman on it.

Only if it's Lady Liberty.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: charby on June 18, 2015, 11:24:40 AM
Only if it's Lady Liberty.

Nope: Margaret Brent

People will be like who??
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: SADShooter on June 18, 2015, 11:35:43 AM
All this kerfuffle. Simple answer: wait ten years and put HRC on a bill. First woman, and ex-president. :'(

(Assuming we still have paper currency at that point.)
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: TommyGunn on June 18, 2015, 11:54:51 AM
I'm acquainted with a Hamilton here in Reno, I told him I'm related to Burr - he got all fired up about what a bastard Burr was. :old:

I always thought Raymond Burr was a fine actor.  [tinfoil] I enjoyed both Perry Mason and Ironside. [popcorn]
 >:D



;/
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: K Frame on June 18, 2015, 11:57:25 AM
Just read an article that says that Hamilton is going to STAY on the $10 bill, and the bill with the portrait of the as yet unchosen woman will be produced concurrently.

I actually like that idea, and think they should expand it to other bills, as well.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: K Frame on June 18, 2015, 12:00:38 PM
Hum...

OK, now I'm confused...

The article says that the woman will be in the portrait area, but Hamilton's image will be retained in the design...

Certainly NOT what it inferred earlier.

Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: charby on June 18, 2015, 12:01:37 PM
All this kerfuffle. Simple answer: wait ten years and put HRC on a bill. First woman, and ex-president. :'(

(Assuming we still have paper currency at that point.)

They gotta be dead to be on the bill, HRC will probably still be alive, she will be in her late 70's.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: SADShooter on June 18, 2015, 12:05:25 PM
They gotta be dead to be on the bill, HRC will probably still be alive, she will be in her late 70's.

You assume current precedent will still be applicable? How quaint.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 12:07:30 PM
Only if it's Lady Liberty.

Or Captain Liberty.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: RevDisk on June 18, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
Looks like they want to give Hamilton the axe. Kinda ironic considering his role in US finances.

I'd like to point out that my hometown tried to give him the axe first! Kidding, kidding. We just tried to hang him, not take off his head with an axe.

Interesting Hamilton trivia that not many folks know. In the famous duel which he was killed, he supplied the pistols. Which had a hidden set trigger. It's possible and plausible Hamilton was trying to cheat, but his firearm went off due to the set trigger being so sensitive.


Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Scout26 on June 18, 2015, 02:07:17 PM
Burr should have been hailed as a hero.

Jackson was the first and only president to pay off the national debt and balance the budget. He needs to stay.  Put Sherman and Patton on higher denomination bills, the two greatest generals America ever produced.   That will piss off a few folks.

Put Jenner on a whatever bill the are re-designing and watch many, many heads explode.  Both on the left and right.  It will piss off everyone.  The femi-nazi's/SJW's/etc. will be mad that a "real" woman isn't on the bill, the social conservatives will be pissed because they put a trans-whatever-it's-being-called-today is on the bill.

Or to riff on Charby's theme:  Anne Hucthinson.  Give the Femi-nazi's a coronary...
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: charby on June 18, 2015, 02:26:07 PM
Or to riff on Charby's theme:  Anne Hucthinson.  Give the Femi-nazi's a coronary...

ayup
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2015, 04:21:50 PM
I'd like to point out that my hometown tried to give him the axe first! Kidding, kidding. We just tried to hang him, not take off his head with an axe.

Interesting Hamilton trivia that not many folks know. In the famous duel which he was killed, he supplied the pistols. Which had a hidden set trigger. It's possible and plausible Hamilton was trying to cheat, but his firearm went off due to the set trigger being so sensitive.


I've read that his son lost a duel, using the same brace of pistols.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: brimic on June 18, 2015, 04:24:39 PM
Burr should have been hailed as a hero.

Jackson was the first and only president to pay off the national debt and balance the budget. He needs to stay.  Put Sherman and Patton on higher denomination bills, the two greatest generals America ever produced.   That will piss off a few folks.

Put Jenner on a whatever bill the are re-designing and watch many, many heads explode.  Both on the left and right.  It will piss off everyone.  The femi-nazi's/SJW's/etc. will be mad that a "real" woman isn't on the bill, the social conservatives will be pissed because they put a trans-whatever-it's-being-called-today is on the bill.

Or to riff on Charby's theme:  Anne Hucthinson.  Give the Femi-nazi's a coronary...

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 20, 2015, 04:47:04 PM
...The article says that the woman will be in the portrait area, but Hamilton's image will be retained in the design...



Are we talking about Jenner again?
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Scout26 on June 20, 2015, 08:05:19 PM
On my Facefriends page the is one of those White House Petitions to put Ayn Rand on a bill.    Only needs like 600 signatures to make to 100K, where they have to at least address it. 

She'd be perfect !!!!
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: lee n. field on June 20, 2015, 08:23:26 PM
Alicia Rosenbaum, as she looked when she was about 50, on the front.

On the back, a picture of a big gold dollar sign monument on top of a mountain, lit by floodlights.  That, or this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_%28statue%29).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/New_York_City%2C_May_2014_-_033.JPG (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/New_York_City%2C_May_2014_-_033.JPG)
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: cordex on June 20, 2015, 09:13:03 PM
They gotta be dead to be on the bill
Lady Liberty.
Eligible.  =|
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: vaskidmark on June 23, 2015, 08:54:57 AM
http://billllsidlemind.blogspot.com/2015/06/10-bill.html

h/t to Bayou Renaissance Man

The discussion is closed and the entire internet has been won.

stay safe.

PS - Irwin, yes we are.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: K Frame on June 23, 2015, 09:02:30 AM
"PS - Irwin, yes we are."

Huh?
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 23, 2015, 11:08:02 AM
http://billllsidlemind.blogspot.com/2015/06/10-bill.html

h/t to Bayou Renaissance Man

The discussion is closed and the entire internet has been won.



You might think a dead man woman can't self-identify from beyond the grave. But that would be necrophobic.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: vaskidmark on June 23, 2015, 02:38:22 PM
"PS - Irwin, yes we are."

Huh?

You wanted to know if we were talking about that Jenner thing.

It's sad when dementia hits so close to home.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Tallpine on June 23, 2015, 03:08:21 PM
Jeanette Rankin has been suggested for the $10 bill  :cool:
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: vaskidmark on June 23, 2015, 04:29:04 PM
Jeanette Rankin has been suggested for the $10 bill  :cool:

If they put it as a hologram I'd take Michelle Rankin.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Ben on June 24, 2015, 10:27:46 PM
Ha ha - Now it's sexist to put a woman on the $10 bill because "it's the least used of the most used bills". So, discrimination!!!!

http://twitchy.com/2015/06/24/what-feminist-victory-politico-reveals-the-hidden-sexism-of-featuring-a-woman-on-the-10-bill/
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 25, 2015, 10:04:38 PM
You wanted to know if we were talking about that Jenner thing.

It's sad when dementia hits so close to home.

stay safe.


It struck a little closer to home than you realize, Skid.  That was me that asked if we were discussing Bruised Gender again.
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: K Frame on June 26, 2015, 07:05:47 PM
I bet they could put a woman on every bill and they would bitch about how green isnt a flattering color...
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 27, 2015, 01:44:37 AM
Does this FRN make my butt look big?
Title: Re: Alexander Hamilton, We Hardly Knew Ye
Post by: charby on June 27, 2015, 11:22:33 AM
I bet they could put a woman on every bill and they would bitch about how green isnt a flattering color...


Or Ms So&So wasn't included, or why is she on the $10 and not on the $1, etc.