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Title: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Ben on June 23, 2015, 10:31:36 AM
Samsung is toying with video displays on the back of semis so drivers can see in front of the truck. On the face of it, neat idea. I have to wonder though, if it will overly embolden people to do things like pass the truck in dangerous locations because they can "see" oncoming traffic that, as my rearview mirror states, "may be closer than it appears". I can see it being a good idea for, as the article mentions, anticipating the need to brake, etc.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/06/23/samsung-wants-to-stick-its-displays-on-back-trucks-to-improve-road-safety/
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Fly320s on June 23, 2015, 11:37:39 AM
I see it as a distraction.  And I wonder what happens at night.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: MechAg94 on June 23, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Who is going to pay for mounting all this on thousands of tractor trailers?  People make a living doing that, but I wouldn't call it high profit.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Ben on June 23, 2015, 12:02:49 PM
I see it as a distraction. 

I think it would be for me. I'm still not used to the backup camera on my 4Runner. While I find the gridlines very useful to get within inches of obstacles in a tight spot, the actual "picture" is distracting to me, and if I find during "normal" backing up situations, I prefer to just use the mirrors and turn my head when needed.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Triphammer on June 23, 2015, 12:15:01 PM
The dislpays get installed for "safety" probably with a .gov mandate and tax money. The, once everything is in place, Samsung starts selling ad time.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: KD5NRH on June 23, 2015, 12:16:52 PM
Hmmm...a display that shows what one would see if the object the display is mounted on wasn't there...they call that "active camouflage" in all the sci fi books.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: 41magsnub on June 23, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Yep - distraction.  There are times it would be nice, those times are limited to narrow and curvy 2 lane highways.  The times they would be helpful I think do not outweigh harm of the distraction and the advertising use that would surely follow.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: mtnbkr on June 23, 2015, 12:33:57 PM
And I wonder what happens at night.

SkineMax.

Chris
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Boomhauer on June 23, 2015, 12:53:57 PM
I don't think this is a good idea. It will only embolden idiots to pass when they should not.



Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: KD5NRH on June 23, 2015, 12:57:42 PM
The one thing I'd really like to see through large vehicles is the traffic light so I can tell if it's changed in the time the student driver has used to stall the truck twice trying to get through the left turn.  The problem there would be that sometime after the first stall, the front of the truck is pointed off to the left, away from the light.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Scout26 on June 23, 2015, 02:30:38 PM
Wouldn't have helped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-0E2Nxtm6o
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: MechAg94 on June 23, 2015, 02:58:38 PM
"Why were following that truck so close?"

"I was trying to see the screen better officer."
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: KD5NRH on June 23, 2015, 03:19:06 PM
Wouldn't have helped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-0E2Nxtm6o

Nothing short of a lynching with cluebats could help people who do that.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Tallpine on June 23, 2015, 03:38:44 PM
Nothing short of a lynching with cluebats could help people who do that.

Well, she did get a broken neck  ;)
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 23, 2015, 08:11:40 PM
Wouldn't have helped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-0E2Nxtm6o

No, but the driver of the car behind the truck with the dash cam would have crapped his pants.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Firethorn on June 24, 2015, 03:21:12 PM
Nothing short of a lynching with cluebats could help people who do that.

I'd say she's probably exceeded that level

No, but the driver of the car behind the truck with the dash cam would have crapped his pants.

Assuming they're not tailgating, they probably saw(and heard) it anyways.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: TechMan on June 24, 2015, 03:26:43 PM
I don't think this is a good idea. It will only embolden idiots to pass when they should not.





Quoted for truth!
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Mannlicher on June 24, 2015, 08:53:24 PM
what could possibly go wrong?    =D
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Northwoods on June 24, 2015, 10:48:55 PM
There are active projects to replace rearview mirrors with cameras.  But that is more to do with reducing drag to improve fuel economy.  I doubt any truck would install the system in the OP unless legally mandated.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Tallpine on June 24, 2015, 11:34:46 PM
There are active projects to replace rearview mirrors with cameras.  But that is more to do with reducing drag to improve fuel economy.  I doubt any truck would install the system in the OP unless legally mandated.

Do those rear view cameras flip the image so it looks like a mirror ???

Could be awful confusing to those who have been driving for a long time.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Devonai on June 25, 2015, 07:54:37 AM
"Hey, look, this truck is showing the movie 'Duel!' I love this one."
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: mtnbkr on June 25, 2015, 08:04:28 AM
What about security?  What if someone inserts their own feed to the screen?

Maybe a clear view when there's traffic.  Or, something completely different.

Chris
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: MechAg94 on June 25, 2015, 09:26:04 AM
Do those rear view cameras flip the image so it looks like a mirror ???

Could be awful confusing to those who have been driving for a long time.
Not sure, but they can make so that Objects are not closer than they appear.  Or make it so the mistaken movie version of that is actually correct.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: TechMan on June 25, 2015, 10:14:09 AM
What about security?  What if someone inserts their own feed to the screen?

Maybe a clear view when there's traffic.  Or, something completely different.

Chris

Debbie does traffic!
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Fly320s on June 25, 2015, 10:59:24 AM
What about security?  What if someone inserts their own feed to the screen?

Maybe a clear view when there's traffic.  Or, something completely different.

Chris

Yeah, they can hack it through the CB radio.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: KD5NRH on June 25, 2015, 11:19:50 AM
What about security?  What if someone inserts their own feed to the screen?

Maybe a clear view when there's traffic.  Or, something completely different.

"HIJACKED RIG - CALL 911"

"FREE WIFI - PASSWORD lk4noid87230u-01as6"
(Think about drivers typing that into a phone while in heavy traffic.)

"HAZARDOUS WASTE - KEEP BACK 2500 FEET"
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 25, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
Debbie does traffic!

Well, you would have something to watch when the traffic sucks.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: Chuck Dye on June 25, 2015, 04:07:38 PM
I predict lots of rear end collisions as the dummies forget that they are watching a screen and assume that their following distance is what they see on screen, not their actual distance to the truck. Though far too many trucks will display inadequate following distance, that will not deter the dummies.
Title: Re: Need to See Around That Semi?
Post by: brimic on June 25, 2015, 04:13:20 PM
I predict lots of rear end collisions as the dummies forgets that they are watching a screen and assume that their following distance is what they see on screen, not their actual distance to the truck. Though far too many trucks will display inadequate following distance, that will not deter the dummies.

Finally someone who understands how bad a good portion of drivers really are.