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Title: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: makattak on June 26, 2015, 09:00:26 AM
So, what was supposed to be a gesture of goodwill and reconciliation (i.e. removing the Confederate flag from state houses) has become a full on purge.

Give the left and inch and they will take a mile:

http://kotaku.com/apple-yanks-games-with-confederate-flags-from-app-store-1713885047

Apple is banning Civil War games because they have the confederate flag in them.

... These people are insane. This is the equivalent of book burning.

(Please let's not have a rehash of the locked thread. I think we can agree this is insane, at least?)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Boomhauer on June 26, 2015, 09:17:57 AM
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So, what was supposed to be a gesture of goodwill and reconciliation (i.e. removing the Confederate flag from state houses) has become a full on purge.

No *expletive deleted*it.

Hell, the *expletive deleted*ers want to ban Gone with the Wind http://nypost.com/2015/06/24/gone-with-the-wind-should-go-the-way-of-the-confederate-flag/

They want to destroy Confederate monuments. They are already defacing them.

This isn't about the Confederate flag at all, IMHO. It's about cultural cleansing. And this is the first step. The left has now learned they can successfully suppress something they don't like on a wide scale, and they aren't going to forget that. Right now their efforts are going to be targeted at the South, but it will be used elsewhere.

The left HATES the South with a burning passion for a few reasons, and little to do because of racial history.

1) the South is prosperous and growing. Lots of companies moving to the South because of an environment that is friendlier to businesses on regulatory, tax, and union grounds

2) The South has a lot of fairly conservative people in it who do not like the leftists for various reasons. 

3) The leftist areas are losing people who are moving to the South after getting fed up with bullshit in their home states and cities.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Ben on June 26, 2015, 09:33:54 AM
The left has now learned they can successfully suppress something they don't like on a wide scale, and they aren't going to forget that. Right now their efforts are going to be targeted at the South, but it will be used elsewhere.

Agree, and lets all please keep this thread moving on that theme so I don't have to lock it like the last one.

What Apple in particular is doing is a scary thing. As was mentioned in another article that I read on their decision - how long before Schindler's list is edited or banned from sale because it shows nazi flags? This is a very slippery, and dangerous slope. If morons like Kayne West want to boycott the Confederate flag or anything else, who cares? But when Amazon and Ebay begin forbidding sales, and giants like Apple ban historical games because they depict historic symbols, it's not long before the textbook editing (already been happening to some degree) becomes widespread. And hey, let's throw in some book burning while we're at it.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 26, 2015, 09:59:13 AM
The left is once again showing its true colors. Their endgame would look very much like those of the Soviets, the Chicoms, the Khmer Rouge, Castro, and even the Nazis.

This is almost like a totalitarian regime with one opposing party still holding seats in congress (not that the Republicans are trying to fight).

I have to make a point to talk to neighbors to get their reactions. Maybe the states will secede again.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: KD5NRH on June 26, 2015, 11:57:29 AM
What Apple in particular is doing is a scary thing. As was mentioned in another article that I read on their decision - how long before Schindler's list is edited or banned from sale because it shows nazi flags? This is a very slippery, and dangerous slope. If morons like Kayne West want to boycott the Confederate flag or anything else, who cares? But when Amazon and Ebay begin forbidding sales, and giants like Apple ban historical games because they depict historic symbols, it's not long before the textbook editing (already been happening to some degree) becomes widespread. And hey, let's throw in some book burning while we're at it.

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ISIS is going to start looking like the JV team pretty soon.

They want to destroy Confederate monuments. They are already defacing them.

I'm half surprised that our local SCV folks haven't started camping out heavily armed at the Confederate Veterans' memorials at the courthouse and the two main cemeteries.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jocassee on June 26, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Maybe the states will secede again.

If I thought there was a remote chance of that, I would have hope. Ain't gonna happen, for a number of reasons.

Personally, I'm thinking of leaving the country.

Not just because of the Flag, but because the country is going to hell and I don't know if I can spend the next 50 years of my life watching it.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: vaskidmark on June 26, 2015, 12:32:34 PM
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Thank you.  You saved me fro posting the quote.

BTW - I've noticed that the quality of popcorn available while standing by helplessly has begun to seriously deteriorate.  To whom may I speak about this?

stay safe.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Tallpine on June 26, 2015, 12:35:44 PM
What if I am offended by the "Rainbow Flag"  ???

 :P
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: AJ Dual on June 26, 2015, 12:37:21 PM
Honestly, I think the overreach is going to hurt the Left in the long-run. And anyone who thought they could get brownie points by appeasement.

Much like how rad-fems and their utterances do more to harm and turn people away from "mainstream" feminism than any actual opposition to it does.

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 26, 2015, 12:37:55 PM
The Bruce Jenner Wikipedia page.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Ben on June 26, 2015, 12:41:04 PM
Honestly, I think the overreach is going to hurt the Left in the long-run. And anyone who thought they could get brownie points by appeasement.

I really, really hope you're right. Swinging pendulum and all that. Yet lately, people and organizations are practically raising their hands and jumping up and down shouting "Me first! Me first!" when there's even a hint of potential appeasing to do.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jocassee on June 26, 2015, 12:53:28 PM
Honestly, I think the overreach is going to hurt the Left in the long-run. And anyone who thought they could get brownie points by appeasement.

Much like how rad-fems and their utterances do more to harm and turn people away from "mainstream" feminism than any actual opposition to it does.



I wouldn't count it. Social media movements are totally driven by leftists, which in turn drives the regular media, which in turn drives the Overton window and policy (left and right).

Right wing alt media is on constant defense, because the Left is amoral, and they win every single engagement.

The left is totally dominant in all other forms of media and most of high and middle culture, to the point that most Americans don't even realize the water they're swimming in is Marxist-flavored.

The left has been overreaching for the past 6 years, and have grown more bold and more powerful as a result. Much as I would like to see them hit rock bottom, I'm not anticipating it.

It will get worse, and continue to get worse until we are either living under a harder form of fascism or it call comes apart.

I'm not banking on it all coming apart, either. I think we're looking at incremental tyranny with a Praetorian guard of twitter liberals and a useless Fourth Estate that ensure infinite culture force can be instantly brought to bear on any issue that prevents itself.

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: charby on June 26, 2015, 12:54:47 PM
Personally, I'm thinking of leaving the country.

The question is where are you going to find the freedoms and safety we still have here?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 26, 2015, 01:10:01 PM
It's interesting that, with the proven effectiveness of social media harassment, etc; they still feel the need to bring legal force against everyone they disagree with. You tell them that legalizing racial discrimination in the workplace would have no real effect on the ability of racial minorities to find jobs, hotel accommodations, etc, and they just ignore it. They think as soon as we lift any legal pressure on such things, it will all go straight back to Jim Crow.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jocassee on June 26, 2015, 01:15:16 PM
The question is where are you going to find the freedoms and safety we still have here?

I'm actually not worried about it. If I go somewhere else, that is not my country, my line of thought is I can just enjoy living life as an expat and not worry about fighting that country's battles. I would settle for somewhere doing humanitarian work or whatever.

Safety has never been my concern, or my wife's: in fact I enjoy dangerous places (up to a point).

Your point is sound, and up until very recently it would have kept me from exploring long term options abroad.

Now, barring some serious sportiness, America will take their guns along with them to fascism, a useless totem of a bygone era where men solved governance problems with bullets.

Mind you, I'm not disappointed with rank and file gun owners for not randomly shooting politicians. I'm a peaceful man (mostly).

What I am disappointed in is the failure of certain leaders to grapple with the fact that the Nation is in an existential crisis and that parts of it must be amputated in order to save what is left.

In other words, the Union needs to be split in such a way that is economically, culturally, and politically sound. I believe it could be done, without too much headache. With the level of rancour that is currently extant in the country, I think both sides would say "good riddance to bad rubbish." Hopwever, no one on the national stage has yet been bold or stupid enough to suggest something along those line.

RevDisk disagrees with me--he believes attempting to do so would lead to a shooting match.

I feel obligated here to suggest that I am NOT suggesting that the South Rise Again. The South has a lot of problems, most of them stemming from accepting generations of Yankee "charity."

Perhaps a Texas, Montanta, Wyoming, Utah, and a couple others could pull it off.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 26, 2015, 01:17:14 PM
Like it has been brought up already, today it is the Confederate Battle Flag, tomorrow it will be white t-shirts.


When will someone want to ban crucifixes since the KKK burns crosses?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: KD5NRH on June 26, 2015, 01:32:30 PM
Safety has never been my concern, or my wife's: in fact I enjoy dangerous places (up to a point).

I hear there's some cheap housing in Detroit.

Oh wait...that's technically not a foreign country.

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In other words, the Union needs to be split in such a way that is economically, culturally, and politically sound.

The problem is the geographic issues; DC, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston and southern California will demand free passage between the parts of their new nation.  They also might resist when we try to forcibly eject the carpetbaggers who belong there but kept moving to real people places and complaining that we don't live the way they want.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Ben on June 26, 2015, 01:36:49 PM
The question is where are you going to find the freedoms and safety we still have here?

Puerto Rico would give you the best of both worlds, especially with their latest gun rights ruling. You have to stand in line for stuff a lot though.

There are actually lots of places where, while freedoms aren't codified, they are there in greater abundance than here because the governments don't give a *expletive deleted*it. The downside is that when they do arbitrarily care, it's easy for an ex-pat to get screwed. There's quite a few places where I could enjoy living more than here (if I were willing to give up my guns), but I would definitely have a "Constable Bob Go-Bag<TM>" handy, as well as an exit strategy.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 26, 2015, 02:26:32 PM
Fly this flag and watch heads explode:

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Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: brimic on June 26, 2015, 02:48:14 PM
If I thought there was a remote chance of that, I would have hope. Ain't gonna happen, for a number of reasons.

Personally, I'm thinking of leaving the country.

Not just because of the Flag, but because the country is going to hell and I don't know if I can spend the next 50 years of my life watching it.

Yep. Ain't going to happen.
Next civil war, if there is one, isn't going to be states against states, its going to be rural against urban, block against block, neighbor against neighbor with the Feds intervening, mostly ineffectually, in some areas. There are a lot of people out there with their own agendas and scores to settle on all sides.
It'll make the Bosnia/Serb/Croate conflict look tame and easy to comprehend in comparison.
Roof was a goober and an idiot. He was an unsympathetic loser attacking a sympathetic group of people.



Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: AJ Dual on June 26, 2015, 04:09:11 PM
Yep. Ain't going to happen.
Next civil war, if there is one, isn't going to be states against states, its going to be rural against urban, block against block, neighbor against neighbor with the Feds intervening, mostly ineffectually, in some areas. There are a lot of people out there with their own agendas and scores to settle on all sides.
It'll make the Bosnia/Serb/Croate conflict look tame and easy to comprehend in comparison.
Roof was a goober and an idiot. He was an unsympathetic loser attacking a sympathetic group of people.


The Matt Bracken CW2 murder-cube is pretty prescient.

It's a crap-sandwich for sure.

http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2010/07/bracken-cw2-cube-mapping-meta-terrain.html

And that's a simplification of course, because there's still political Left vs. Right to varying degrees in each of those corners still, and then there's authoritarian/libertarian axis to consider too.

So it's really a fragmented four dimensional matrix.

As brimic knows though, one side listed themselves in a big tidy database with the Walker recall.  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 26, 2015, 04:21:34 PM
I wonder if i will live long enough to see a foreign country come to us and just take us over like a distressed property at a bankruptcy sale


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Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Tallpine on June 26, 2015, 04:24:56 PM
I wonder if i will live long enough to see a foreign country come to us and just take us over like a distressed property at a bankruptcy sale


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Much of the USSA already looks like a foreign country to me.

San Diego, for instance.  I thought maybe that I had dropped into some "Firefly" setting  ;/
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 26, 2015, 04:26:19 PM
I hear you. Its especially disheartening when its a place you know and used to like


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Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: KD5NRH on June 26, 2015, 04:32:50 PM
Next civil war, if there is one, isn't going to be states against states, its going to be rural against urban, block against block, neighbor against neighbor with the Feds intervening, mostly ineffectually, in some areas.

Rural vs urban wouldn't be that much of a fight after the initial skirmishes and a transportation blockade; how many days of food does the typical city have stored or have the ability to produce?

Sure, some rural folks won't do too well without their meds from the city doc, but the rest will be eating just fine while the urban population is looking at a dwindling critical resource.  Not too many major power plants in major cities either, so they better eat the frozen foods first.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Tallpine on June 26, 2015, 04:34:41 PM
I hear you. Its especially disheartening when its a place you know and used to like

Had never been to SD until 2012, or since for that matter.

But I sometimes wonder if I really want to visit some of my home places in the Colorado mountains again =|

Actually, it changed a lot before we left.  
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jocassee on June 26, 2015, 04:55:30 PM
The Matt Bracken CW2 murder-cube is pretty prescient.

It's a crap-sandwich for sure.

http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2010/07/bracken-cw2-cube-mapping-meta-terrain.html

And that's a simplification of course, because there's still political Left vs. Right to varying degrees in each of those corners still, and then there's authoritarian/libertarian axis to consider too.

So it's really a fragmented four dimensional matrix.


Bolded for emphasis. I *really* don't like studying the Bracken Cube too hard, because it makes me depressed.

The key issue is that the nation is incredibly fragmented, but that the Hard Left are the only ones with enough moral authority within their various key fragments to actually make progress on their front. The collapse of the leftist coalition has been predicted for years: However it continues to evolve and grow, even having lost sections of key constituencies.

My chief opinion as to why that is, comparatively speaking, is that right wingers are easily inflamed but not easily managed. Whereas leftists not only enjoy being riled up but eagerly await what you tell them to do with that negative emotion. That's why Democrat email GOTV efforts and special interest cataloging have such riotous success while Conservatives trail behind.

All this to reiterate my point: short of a total collapse (which I view as possible, but unlikely), we're all *expletive deleted*ed. I'm young enough where I don't feel like I have to stick around and see, as CSD said, the US taken by its creditors (or their minions)like a distressed property.

I would say "Watch Greece" to see our future, but the Greeks continue to be weaselly little bastards. I am actually quite impressed with how they have strung the Euro along: of course that may say more about the Euros than the Greeks.

Not to mention that if our economy, or currency, goes completely under, no one is going to bail us out. Maybe halfway.

Maybe they'll drop food for us.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Tallpine on June 26, 2015, 05:04:17 PM
I'm just glad that I'm old enough (or not that young anymore, anyway) not to see it that much longer.  =|
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 26, 2015, 05:04:56 PM
Has anyone considered that the flag brouhaha may be another distraction from a more serious story? How about the disclosure that the IRS destroyed 442 backup tapes containing 23,000 to 24,000 emails--including Lois Lerner's--after the tapes had been subpoenaed by Congress? Or the revelation that the State Department is doing the same thing with Benghazi-related emails?

The "watch the rabbit while the magician's other hand" trick is as old as Caesar.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: AJ Dual on June 26, 2015, 05:13:12 PM
Not to mention that if our economy, or currency, goes completely under, no one is going to bail us out. Maybe halfway.

Maybe they'll drop food for us.

It's actually the bright spot too.

Because if we go under, balkanize, SHTF, CW2... whatever, the whole world is going to go into a depression. And add to that our food/fuel off the market and a ton of critical exports nobody will realize were America's until they're gone, and regional tensions will go through the roof.

Nobody's coming to act as a "peacekeeping force" like they did in "Patriots: surviving the coming collapse" a.k.a. "Triple Ought". They're going to stay home and guard their own borders, and protect local regimes from their own citizens. Further, we have no idea who will drive across who's borders around the world in full scale invasion, or decide that it's a good time to engage in local genocide/ethnic cleansing because the U.S. and the rest of the mostly-stable world won't intervene, and/or won't even apply sanctions.

That's important. Because if the American military's nominal center-right political bias is enough to override "following orders", especially among combat-arms units, and either sits things out, or aligns with the loose Right/Libertarian/Constitutionalist side of things, the statist/Left's only hope is foreign intervention.

My gut feeling is if the candle is lit, and CW actually goes rodeo, the Left's going to lose. Well... we'll all "lose", but the Left is going to "Lose more".

I think should CW2 happen, it's more a risk of balkanization, or the authoritarian right combined with some sort of corporatist oligarchy getting control. I don't see outcomes where the Left wins.  Their "base" is largely useless as anything other than votes.

Has anyone considered that the flag brouhaha may be another distraction from a more serious story? How about the disclosure that the IRS destroyed 442 backup tapes containing 23,000 to 24,000 emails--including Lois Lerner's--after the tapes had been subpoenaed by Congress? Or the revelation that the State Department is doing the same thing with Benghazi-related emails?

The "watch the rabbit while the magician's other hand" trick is as old as Caesar.

You say that as if it matters if there was a distraction or not.  =(  Trey Gowdy could nail Hillary with some sort of smoking gun 10,000x better than anything Nixon had on him, and it would... not... matter... 

The 4th estate would still downplay the news, and the DoJ wouldn't do anything.

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jocassee on June 26, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
That's important. Because if the American military's nominal center-right political bias is enough to override "following orders", especially among combat-arms units, and either sits things out, or aligns with the loose Right/Libertarian/Constitutionalist side of things, the statist/Left's only hope is foreign intervention.

My gut feeling is if the candle is lit, and CW actually goes rodeo, the Left's going to lose. Well... we'll all "lose", but the Left is going to "Lose more".

I think should CW2 happen, it's more a risk of balkanization, or the authoritarian right combined with some sort of corporatist oligarchy getting control. I don't see outcomes where the Left wins.  Their "base" is largely useless as anything other than votes.

I agree with all of these as possibilities. I've even prepared for them as far as training and materials that I can gather.

That said, I believe a slow decline, perhaps with occasional or widespread LROL situations, is more likely as the cultural divides become more pronounced and we slide further into Africa-style politics--the weaponization of one tribe against another to keep the base motivated.

That is, essentially, what we have seen already in Ferguson and Baltimore. I was pleasantly surprised we didn't see a worse iteration in Charleston: When I saw the headline and fired it off to some of my crew, my line was "this could be the big one."

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: brimic on June 26, 2015, 06:10:25 PM
It's actually the bright spot too.

Because if we go under, balkanize, SHTF, CW2... whatever, the whole world is going to go into a depression. And add to that our food/fuel off the market and a ton of critical exports nobody will realize were America's until they're gone, and regional tensions will go through the roof.

Nobody's coming to act as a "peacekeeping force" like they did in "Patriots: surviving the coming collapse" a.k.a. "Triple Ought". They're going to stay home and guard their own borders, and protect local regimes from their own citizens. Further, we have no idea who will drive across who's borders around the world in full scale invasion, or decide that it's a good time to engage in local genocide/ethnic cleansing because the U.S. and the rest of the mostly-stable world won't intervene, and/or won't even apply sanctions.

That's important. Because if the American military's nominal center-right political bias is enough to override "following orders", especially among combat-arms units, and either sits things out, or aligns with the loose Right/Libertarian/Constitutionalist side of things, the statist/Left's only hope is foreign intervention.

My gut feeling is if the candle is lit, and CW actually goes rodeo, the Left's going to lose. Well... we'll all "lose", but the Left is going to "Lose more".

I think should CW2 happen, it's more a risk of balkanization, or the authoritarian right combined with some sort of corporatist oligarchy getting control. I don't see outcomes where the Left wins.  Their "base" is largely useless as anything other than votes.

You say that as if it matters if there was a distraction or not.  =(  Trey Gowdy could nail Hillary with some sort of smoking gun 10,000x better than anything Nixon had on him, and it would... not... matter... 

The 4th estate would still downplay the news, and the DoJ wouldn't do anything.



The left has time on it's side. In a generation or two we could look exactky like the Soviet Union, political purges and gulags included, all it has to do is wait untul enough people who remember the idea of America to die off. Push their agenda too hard and too fast, they face their own extinction. The obama admin has done a good job of really pushing the agenda hard while walking a fine line.  The daily scandals and corruption are out in the open for everyone to see, but noone has stepped forward yet and said "enough is enough." Americans are still in the delusion that we can vote our way out. That could change.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: roo_ster on June 26, 2015, 08:18:58 PM
Has anyone considered that the flag brouhaha may be another distraction from a more serious story? How about the disclosure that the IRS destroyed 442 backup tapes containing 23,000 to 24,000 emails--including Lois Lerner's--after the tapes had been subpoenaed by Congress? Or the revelation that the State Department is doing the same thing with Benghazi-related emails?

The "watch the rabbit while the magician's other hand" trick is as old as Caesar.

There are more than enough such issues to crowd each other out.  Who has time to get informed on them all, especially when the MSM won't broadcast the condensed version?  It doesn't have to be deliberate distraction. 
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 26, 2015, 08:53:12 PM
If I'm gonna live in a banana republic it just as well be one in the tropics.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: dogmush on June 26, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
If I'm gonna live in a banana republic it just as well be one in the tropics.

*expletive deleted*it, I live in FL.  I'm good to go.*

*I know, technically above 23.whatever*, but it's close enough this time of year.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Andiron on June 26, 2015, 09:03:11 PM
*expletive deleted*it, I live in FL.  I'm good to go.*

*I know, technically above 23.whatever*, but it's close enough this time of year.

Hell, you've probably got genuine Cubans to complete the effect .
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: dogmush on June 26, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
And, more importantly, their coffee.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Andiron on June 26, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
And, more importantly, their coffee.

And most excellent sammiches.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: MechAg94 on June 26, 2015, 10:18:57 PM
Has anyone considered that the flag brouhaha may be another distraction from a more serious story? How about the disclosure that the IRS destroyed 442 backup tapes containing 23,000 to 24,000 emails--including Lois Lerner's--after the tapes had been subpoenaed by Congress? Or the revelation that the State Department is doing the same thing with Benghazi-related emails?

The "watch the rabbit while the magician's other hand" trick is as old as Caesar.
It may be a distraction, but that could be front page news right alongside and the media wouldn't care.  The leadership on both sides is unwilling to actually punish anyone and too many voters are unwilling to vote them out.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 26, 2015, 11:33:44 PM
In other words, the Union needs to be split in such a way that is economically, culturally, and politically sound. I believe it could be done, without too much headache. With the level of rancour that is currently extant in the country, I think both sides would say "good riddance to bad rubbish." Hopwever, no one on the national stage has yet been bold or stupid enough to suggest something along those line.

RevDisk disagrees with me--he believes attempting to do so would lead to a shooting match.

I recommend a series of books by the late William W. Johnstone, called the Ashes series.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 26, 2015, 11:48:40 PM
I recommend a series of books by the late William W. Johnstone, called the Ashes series.

Those are good. :) I like the son.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 27, 2015, 01:08:49 AM
Has anyone considered that the flag brouhaha may be another distraction from a more serious story? How about the disclosure that the IRS destroyed 442 backup tapes containing 23,000 to 24,000 emails--including Lois Lerner's--after the tapes had been subpoenaed by Congress? Or the revelation that the State Department is doing the same thing with Benghazi-related emails?

The "watch the rabbit while the magician's other hand" trick is as old as Caesar.


This reminds me of when people said that Obama wouldn't/shouldn't prosecute Bush & Co. for whatever they allegedly did wrong, as that would lead to a vicious bloodletting every time the office changed hands. I think now I wouldn't mind the bloodletting, if it meant that politicians were actually held accountable.  =|
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: SADShooter on June 27, 2015, 03:52:13 AM
I recommend a series of books by the late William W. Johnstone, called the Ashes series.

As a true Cold War Kid I'm familiar. The first few were awesome, but the shark eventually got Evil Knievel level jumped. Sort of like where we are as a civilization this week.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 27, 2015, 10:04:11 AM
It's not a distraction when the MSM doesn't cover it. When conservative columnists and talk show hosts are focused on the Confederate flag issue and not issues like the 422 destroyed tapes, it's a distraction.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: MechAg94 on June 27, 2015, 10:44:31 PM
Conservatives and libertarians are more likely to be individualists that prefer to go their own way.  More of the liberals are the type who find self worth in joining a group and adopting the ideas and goals of the group as their own.  I am sure that doesn't apply to all, but I think it holds true in general.

Bolded for emphasis. I *really* don't like studying the Bracken Cube too hard, because it makes me depressed.

The key issue is that the nation is incredibly fragmented, but that the Hard Left are the only ones with enough moral authority within their various key fragments to actually make progress on their front. The collapse of the leftist coalition has been predicted for years: However it continues to evolve and grow, even having lost sections of key constituencies.

My chief opinion as to why that is, comparatively speaking, is that right wingers are easily inflamed but not easily managed. Whereas leftists not only enjoy being riled up but eagerly await what you tell them to do with that negative emotion. That's why Democrat email GOTV efforts and special interest cataloging have such riotous success while Conservatives trail behind.

All this to reiterate my point: short of a total collapse (which I view as possible, but unlikely), we're all *expletive deleted*ed. I'm young enough where I don't feel like I have to stick around and see, as CSD said, the US taken by its creditors (or their minions)like a distressed property.

I would say "Watch Greece" to see our future, but the Greeks continue to be weaselly little bastards. I am actually quite impressed with how they have strung the Euro along: of course that may say more about the Euros than the Greeks.

Not to mention that if our economy, or currency, goes completely under, no one is going to bail us out. Maybe halfway.

Maybe they'll drop food for us.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 28, 2015, 01:16:58 AM
Apparently WalMart won't even make a Confederate flag cake.

But they will make an ISIS flag cake:

http://clashdaily.com/2015/06/walmart-refuses-confederate-flag-cake-but-has-no-problem-making-this-one/#
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Boomhauer on June 28, 2015, 01:30:13 AM
Apparently WalMart won't even make a Confederate flag cake.

But they will make an ISIS flag cake:

http://clashdaily.com/2015/06/walmart-refuses-confederate-flag-cake-but-has-no-problem-making-this-one/#


But of course. The Confederate flag flying on some monuments is RRRAAACCCCCCIIIIIISSSSSTTTTTTT but a bunch of terrorist *expletive deleted*s who toss gays off of rooftops, burn captives alive, and murder people in other various and sundry ways, well those guys are A-OK because they belong to the Religion Of Peace.





Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 28, 2015, 08:39:42 AM
Apparently WalMart won't even make a Confederate flag cake.

But they will make an ISIS flag cake:

http://clashdaily.com/2015/06/walmart-refuses-confederate-flag-cake-but-has-no-problem-making-this-one/#



Did he tell them it was an "ISIS battle flag"? Do people know what that is?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: RocketMan on June 28, 2015, 09:04:13 AM
Apparently WalMart won't even make a Confederate flag cake.

But they will make an ISIS flag cake:

http://clashdaily.com/2015/06/walmart-refuses-confederate-flag-cake-but-has-no-problem-making-this-one/#

I would imagine your average Wally World bakery worker is pretty clueless when it comes to current world events.  Most wouldn't know what an ISIS flag represents if it wasn't explained to them.  And even then, they probably wouldn't care.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 28, 2015, 09:54:56 AM
Moving on, can we introduce that guy to a barber or something?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: 230RN on June 28, 2015, 11:41:55 AM
I'm neither racist nor southern, but I think I'll download a couple of rebel flag images while the downloading is still possible.

Just to be a prick about it.

Can always print them out, right?

Terry

Angel Eyes, that is one hell of a cool flag!
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: roo_ster on June 28, 2015, 12:07:23 PM
We must dynamite the Lincoln Memorial, given the fasces graven into the stonework in numerous places.  There is no place in our society for the symbols of a hateful and genocidal regime.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_79JhZ0Mjrzo%2FSjRyelb3JxI%2FAAAAAAAAA5M%2Fz45PDoZzlZE%2Fs320%2FAbraham%2BLincoln%2BStatue.jpg&hash=4c915ed7174a523903b94d694761423bb31836a2)

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.fineartamerica.com%2Fimages-medium-large-5%2Fthe-lincoln-memorial-daniel-chester-french.jpg&hash=60ad3bdfccb06233b05c63a6aa42fdb826daf089)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5145/5628156508_7dc16346bc_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 28, 2015, 12:43:58 PM
Moving on, can we introduce that guy to a barber or something?

You have something against soup-catchers?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 28, 2015, 12:48:39 PM
I would imagine your average Wally World bakery worker is pretty clueless when it comes to current world events.  Most wouldn't know what an ISIS flag represents if it wasn't explained to them.  And even then, they probably wouldn't care.

I wonder how the Wally World bakers would react to this design:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crwflags.com%2Ffotw%2Fimages%2Fu%2Fus-csa7.gif&hash=b1e6c3e4d6c8df207f4c6cf74b5ab7a6dc04f9dd)

or this one:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgoodoldrebel.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F02%2FBonnieBlueFlag.jpg&hash=5cb7733ec13abbb2f264e07cf180a480312a87e5)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jamisjockey on June 28, 2015, 01:23:51 PM


Not to mention that if our economy, or currency, goes completely under, no one is going to bail us out. Maybe halfway.

Maybe they'll drop food for us.

The world economy is so tied to ours that if we go, most of the world goes.  And when that happens, it will be open season for regime changes, border wars and ethnic cleanses across the globe.  Ain't nobody dropping food for us, they'll be desperate to hang on to what they have.

We're actually in a pretty strong position if we get back down to brass tacks. We have natural resources, food and fuel in our own country.  Even after a breakup, we can trade with neighboring states without ever worrying about trade outside north america.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 28, 2015, 03:17:24 PM
CNN Breaking news: South Carolina to ban the sale of Tylenol. They fear the picking of cotton from the bottles may represent racism and slavery.



(not really, but how silly would it be compared to everything else?)

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 28, 2015, 08:54:44 PM
Moving on, can we introduce that guy to a barber or something?

Confed-o-bear?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 28, 2015, 09:08:15 PM
CNN Breaking news: South Carolina to ban the sale of Tylenol. They fear the picking of cotton from the bottles may represent racism and slavery.



(not really, but how silly would it be compared to everything else?)


https://youtu.be/xCg6DVbin9U
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 28, 2015, 09:49:59 PM
https://youtu.be/xCg6DVbin9U

Thank you for posting Zooey.  Nice ending for the weekend.  (Her voice just does me in.  Dunno what it is...)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 28, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
Thank you for posting Zooey.  Nice ending for the weekend.  (Her voice just does me in.  Dunno what it is...)

I was looking for the Hayden Smith one.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Ben on June 28, 2015, 10:24:02 PM
Thank you for posting Zooey.  Nice ending for the weekend.  (Her voice just does me in.  Dunno what it is...)

Same here. I'm sure you're familiar with "She and Him", but if not, check them out.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 28, 2015, 10:50:09 PM
Am not, but will.  First saw her in Tin Man, and noticed her voice had a bit of a Judy Garland tint to it.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Ben on June 28, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
Am not, but will.  First saw her in Tin Man, and noticed her voice had a bit of a Judy Garland tint to it.

One of my favorites by them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeAgLIaHj0M

And if this isn't thread drift, I don't know what is.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Doggy Daddy on June 29, 2015, 12:44:44 AM
One of my favorites by them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeAgLIaHj0M

And if this isn't thread drift, I don't know what is.  :laugh:

I owe you!

And, this is proof that drift is definitely a FEATURE!
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Frank Castle on June 29, 2015, 03:05:32 AM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11707566_10204284728461649_3369278954428373256_n.jpg?oh=feaf6a35682a128ef47b541d6f5ff66d&oe=561C203F)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Monkeyleg on June 29, 2015, 09:59:49 AM
So that's what the WH would have looked like if the South had won.

There's no car on the lawn, though. ;)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Nick1911 on June 29, 2015, 10:44:09 AM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-confederate-flags-parks-20150625-story.html

And it continues
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: dogmush on June 29, 2015, 10:44:56 AM
So that's what the WH would have looked like if the South had won.

There's no car on the lawn, though. ;)

It's hidden in the tall grass.  An '85 IROC-Z with a trailer hitch.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: dogmush on June 29, 2015, 10:47:56 AM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-confederate-flags-parks-20150625-story.html

And it continues

From that article:

Quote
We strive to tell the complete story of America," National Park Service director Jonathan B. Jarvis said in a statement. "All sales items in parks are evaluated based on educational value and their connection to the park. Any stand-alone depictions of Confederate flags have no place in park stores."

Complete, unless it makes people uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Tallpine on June 29, 2015, 11:59:17 AM
So that's what the WH would have looked like if the South had won.

There's no car on the lawn, though. ;)

Technically, no - as it was not a "civil war" but rather a fight for secession (remember 1776 ?).

But I appreciate the humor anyway.  Needs some dogs under the porch too  =D
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 29, 2015, 03:29:21 PM
Technically, no - as it was not a "civil war" but rather a fight for secession (remember 1776 ?).

But I appreciate the humor anyway.  Needs some dogs under the porch too  =D

Well, if you take into consideration that Maryland got slapped down under martial law before they could really go one way or another, it was possible that the CSA could have ended up with the White House...
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Tallpine on June 29, 2015, 05:03:31 PM
Well, if you take into consideration that Maryland got slapped down under martial law before they could really go one way or another, it was possible that the CSA could have ended up with the White House...

Boston would have been better for the Yankee capitol anyway  :laugh:
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: makattak on July 01, 2015, 04:08:53 PM
https://willmckinley.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/tv-land-pulls-the-dukes-of-hazzard/

Oh, hey, it's not over yet!

Apparently the Duke of Hazzard is now offensive.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: freakazoid on July 01, 2015, 04:28:47 PM
https://willmckinley.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/tv-land-pulls-the-dukes-of-hazzard/

Oh, hey, it's not over yet!

Apparently the Duke of Hazzard is now offensive.

I had read an article yesterday saying that Warner Bros. was no longer licensing the manufactor of General Lee toys.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi149.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs54%2FBitFreakazoid%2FFunny%2FNew%2520Bitmap%2520Image_zpslgavom2a.png&hash=d72ff25eb668153c4a23c1d348cfee951d732705)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: SADShooter on July 01, 2015, 04:40:27 PM
https://willmckinley.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/tv-land-pulls-the-dukes-of-hazzard/

Oh, hey, it's not over yet!

Apparently the Duke of Hazzard is now offensive.

If AutoTrader drops the revival ads, we will have really turned a corner.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Tallpine on July 01, 2015, 06:26:18 PM
https://willmckinley.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/tv-land-pulls-the-dukes-of-hazzard/

Oh, hey, it's not over yet!

Apparently the Duke of Hazzard is now offensive.

They never did no harm  =)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: charby on July 01, 2015, 07:36:37 PM
They never did no harm  =)

Hazzard has that effect on some folks, they just naturally say whatevers on their minds.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: dogmush on July 01, 2015, 07:54:00 PM
If AutoTrader drops the revival ads, we will have really turned a corner.

Autotrader had already dropped the flag from the start.

Quote from: some CNN crap story
"We purposefully did not show the Confederate flag... The whole point of the 'Dukes of Hazzard' storyline was that the car is outdated in every way — and it needed replacing," AutoTrader told CNN. "The characters have a clear need that AutoTrader can solve by helping them replace their old car that can't keep up with changing times."

source (http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2015/06/confederate_flags_dukes_of_hazzard_general_lee.html)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Tallpine on July 01, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
Hazzard has that effect on some folks, they just naturally say whatevers on their minds.

Well it would be better if I had the quote correct in my mind  :facepalm:

They never meant no harm.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 02, 2015, 12:47:00 AM
Black Confederates:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8hPo6mYnks

http://www.blackconfederatesoldiers.com/home.html

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Battle Monkey of Zardoz on July 02, 2015, 01:53:27 AM
They never did no harm  =)

Beats all you never saw.   ???
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: zxcvbob on July 02, 2015, 03:14:43 AM
That's just a little bit more than the law will allow.   :police:
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: MillCreek on July 02, 2015, 01:30:05 PM
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/02/nascar-and-its-tracks-ask-fans-to-stop-displaying-confederate-flag/related/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

Now there is your cultural shift.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: makattak on July 02, 2015, 01:34:42 PM
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/02/nascar-and-its-tracks-ask-fans-to-stop-displaying-confederate-flag/related/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

Now there is your cultural shift.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/politics/confederate-flag-poll-racism-southern-pride/

No, just the power of the outrage mob to cow businesses.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: TechMan on July 02, 2015, 01:35:04 PM
http://nascartalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/02/nascar-and-its-tracks-ask-fans-to-stop-displaying-confederate-flag/related/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

Now there is your cultural shift.

Yea, that's not going to go over too well.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 02, 2015, 01:37:52 PM
I hope they plaster Daytona with flags .


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Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 02, 2015, 01:39:59 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/politics/confederate-flag-poll-racism-southern-pride/

No, just the power of the outrage mob to cow businesses.

Businesses may be cowed.  The public, not so much:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/24/business/amazon-big-retailers-remove-confederate-flag-merchandise.html?_r=0
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 02, 2015, 04:26:47 PM
At least Amazon hasn't gone full retard, you can still buy Nazi flags and ISIS flags.

This PC BS has me just about ready to go buy and fly a battle flag just to piss people off. Of course around here those types of people would be pretty scarce.

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 02, 2015, 05:01:34 PM
At least Amazon hasn't gone full retard, you can still buy Nazi flags and ISIS flags.

This PC BS has me just about ready to go buy and fly a battle flag just to piss people off. Of course around here those types of people would be pretty scarce.



Just come down to the flea markets in Tulsa on Admiral.  Can imagine you can find all you want.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Ben on July 02, 2015, 05:16:51 PM
I saw a ton of bikers on the 101 this morning on the drive back to the farm, and half of them had both a US and Confederate flag on their bikes.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 02, 2015, 05:20:33 PM
I was just wondering if anybody knew which episode of the Dukes of Hazzard was the one about how to attack black people in church. Or was it something they did in every episode?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: KD5NRH on July 02, 2015, 05:30:45 PM
I was just wondering if anybody knew which episode of the Dukes of Hazzard was the one about how to attack black people in church.

Well, they did have that one about the black guy that went around in a big RV hurting a bunch of white people and taking their money.

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 02, 2015, 05:57:55 PM
Just come down to the flea markets in Tulsa on Admiral.  Can imagine you can find all you want.

That would require going to a Tulsa, on a weekend, during the day, when there are people around.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 02, 2015, 06:15:27 PM
http://dailycurrant.com/2015/06/26/confederate-flag-kills-7-at-alabama-shopping-mall/

Quote
The flag’s motivations are uncertain at the moment. However, according to witnesses the flag did specifically target White people with Northern accents.

It does annoy me a little bit, since there were also black soldiers in the Union Army. Still amusing, of course.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Blakenzy on July 02, 2015, 06:20:51 PM
A concerted move to ban a historical symbol of defiance towards centralized, federalized, you do as I say because 'gubbermint!' power structure worries me a tad bit.


Well Kanye West has taught you well 'merica. This is an all encompassing visual representation of your understanding of historical events and critical thinking skills:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fp7LBNc7.jpg&hash=67c1e4ec95f4e830ca9628ced74e3825dbacf002)

Bright future ahead of us!  =D



Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 02, 2015, 07:10:05 PM
Quote
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Boomhauer on July 02, 2015, 07:12:56 PM
My idiot sister is busy going full retard on facebook about this

Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 02, 2015, 07:16:37 PM
My idiot sister is busy going full retard on facebook about this.

This post is useless w/o screen captures.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: just Warren on July 03, 2015, 01:27:21 AM
I know it seems bad as the others run rampant but remember that the Rs control 24 states outright have a legislative majority in seven others and seven other governors. Plus majorities in both the US House and Senate.

Next year the really bad parts of Ocare kick in and the Ds will keep running their mouths and possibly trying to memory-hole an entire culture amongst other things thus generating resentment and higher turnout for Rs. Plus many Ds have got what they want. Ocare upheld and gay marriage so that and a lack of good D pres candidates may well keep turnout low for them.

So there is a great chance of an R pres and a great chance of the Rs picking up one or two more Senate seats. Plus keeping the House. The results from 2014 shows that people are tired of the others and are willing to elect Rs in place of Ds and I expect this to continue. So it's not like the others are capable running away with the country.

Now Rs can be mostly useless at times, many times, but they do have blocking power at the very least. So the Ds will continue to be blocked politically.

What we're going through now is just an unusually large lefty smugstorm. It will pass.

The problem is that there are those on our side that have high time preferences, an inability to put or keep things in context, anger and impulse control issues and access to weapons. So if you know someone like this, do try to talk them down. Because if they go off, they will accomplish nothing and make things much, much worse.

Chill out on the apoplectic apocalyptic stuff. Venting is great but don't it let overrule your view of the long-run.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: KD5NRH on July 03, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
https://willmckinley.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/tv-land-pulls-the-dukes-of-hazzard/

Oh, hey, it's not over yet!

Apparently the Duke of Hazzard is now offensive.

https://www.change.org/p/viacom-warner-brothers-walmart-ebay-stop-banning-dukes-of-hazzard?recruiter=10212705&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Over 100k signatures at the moment.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Triphammer on July 03, 2015, 01:24:49 PM
A concerted move to ban a historical symbol of defiance towards centralized, federalized, you do as I say because 'gubbermint!' power structure worries me a tad bit.


I wonder how they'll start attacking the Gadsden Flag?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: SADShooter on July 03, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
A concerted move to ban a historical symbol of defiance towards centralized, federalized, you do as I say because 'gubbermint!' power structure worries me a tad bit.

Bright future ahead of us!  =D





Replacing the one word in bold above with any of multiple variants "marginalize/invalidate/supercede/etc." suggests the progressive attitude toward COTUS, much less a flag. =(
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 03, 2015, 02:29:29 PM
Bubba Watson says he's going to paint over the rooftop flag on his show-original General Lee. Facebook followers tell him, "No". Some nicely, some not so much

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152877001142623&id=155894547622

Brad



Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: zxcvbob on July 03, 2015, 02:51:51 PM
Is nothing sacred anymore?  Next they'll be putting long pants (ugly "mom jeans") on Daisy Duke!
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 03, 2015, 02:59:49 PM
I guess they'll just have to re-write the Dukes of Hazzard story line. Bo and Luke are actually gay lovers, Daisy is a trans-sexual and is secretly having an affair with Lulu Coletrane. Boss Hogg's bar is the local LGBT hangout.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: zxcvbob on July 03, 2015, 03:02:04 PM
It's interesting (is "ironic" the right word?) that the Confederate naval jack actually stands for freedom now much more than the US flag, and how many people hate it for that.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: just Warren on July 03, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
Only if it doesn't have a fringe.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: cordex on July 03, 2015, 04:13:22 PM
I wonder how they'll start attacking the Gadsden Flag?
You mean the flag of right wing terrorists?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Ned Hamford on July 03, 2015, 05:03:20 PM
I guess they'll just have to re-write the Dukes of Hazzard story line. Bo and Luke are actually gay lovers, Daisy is a trans-sexual and is secretly having an affair with Lulu Coletrane. Boss Hogg's bar is the local LGBT hangout.

That does sound amazing. 
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: bedlamite on July 03, 2015, 05:17:00 PM
That does sound amazing. fabulous! 

FTFY.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: ramis on July 03, 2015, 06:17:30 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fpm8gm.gif&hash=9a90db189a586384e25337cf387140c120365ca7)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 06, 2015, 08:25:20 AM
FB meme going around speaks how George Jefferson would say honkey upwards of 21 times in an episode of the Jeffersons but there aren't any calls for that to be pulled from the air.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Ben on July 06, 2015, 02:03:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJMWdw8WEAAjWz3.jpg)
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on July 06, 2015, 02:23:34 PM
http://conservativepost.com/nascar-fans-refuse-to-hide-confederate-flag-at-daytona/

 :rofl:

No, seriously, who on earth thought it was a bright idea to tell a bunch of rednecks* to not fly a Confederate flags?

 :rofl:

They might as well have sent out flyers reminding them to bring every flag they could get ahold of.

 :rofl:





*before anyone gets poo pooy on the redneck thing, I've watched NASCAR and I liked it, so there.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Monkeyleg on July 06, 2015, 08:38:52 PM
I didn't have time, but I had wanted to put out a couple of Confederate flags on the 4th. I'm obviously a Yankee, but wanted to do it just as a tiny measure of push-back.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: lupinus on July 06, 2015, 08:44:02 PM
As a good manager once said after something that sounded like a cross between a giggle and a snark "you can't tell rednecks what to do"


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Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 07, 2015, 08:25:59 AM
Back in 87/88 time frame I had a 68 Ford Short Bed truck that I had put a Confederate Flag in the back window of.  After blowing the motor up in it, friends of mine dropped a motor down in it and sold the thing.  An older black gentleman bought it and left the flag in the window.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: roo_ster on July 07, 2015, 09:17:03 AM
Back in 87/88 time frame I had a 68 Ford Short Bed truck that I had put a Confederate Flag in the back window of.  After blowing the motor up in it, friends of mine dropped a motor down in it and sold the thing.  An older black gentleman bought it and left the flag in the window.

Crazy like a fox.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jocassee on July 07, 2015, 10:35:09 PM
Today the SC Senate voted to remove the Battle Flag from the Memorial where it flies, 36-3. My understanding is that tomorrow it goes to the House, where the fight should not be as easy.

Personally my money is on it coming down.

This Friday I have to drive down to COLA in my ratty ass Eclipse. I will conform to stereotype by flying my brand new Battle Flag the whole way down.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: freakazoid on July 08, 2015, 12:09:43 AM
Today the SC Senate voted to remove the Battle Flag from the Memorial where it flies, 36-3.

Having not followed this as close as I should be, I usually here that it is being flown from the capital building, and sometimes I here a memorial. So, what which his it?
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Doggy Daddy on July 08, 2015, 12:23:33 AM
Having not followed this as close as I should be, I usually here that it is being flown from the capital building, and sometimes I here a memorial. So, what which his it?

Celebrating the birthday with a cold one, are we?    :laugh:
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jocassee on July 08, 2015, 12:48:26 AM
Having not followed this as close as I should be, I usually here that it is being flown from the capital building, and sometimes I here a memorial. So, what which his it?

It has been on the memorial since 2000.
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: freakazoid on July 08, 2015, 12:57:45 AM
Celebrating the birthday with a cold one, are we?    :laugh:

Yes, yes I am. =D
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Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Scout26 on July 08, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
The memorial is next to the Statehouse, hence the photog's always frame it as if it's flying from the actual statehouse.  Hence the outrage. 
Title: Re: Confederate Flag Insanity
Post by: Jocassee on July 08, 2015, 06:03:25 PM
The memorial is next to the Statehouse, hence the photog's always frame it as if it's flying from the actual statehouse.  Hence the outrage. 

BTW...I said this would happen.

http://www.wach.com/news/story.aspx?id=1227759#.VZ2dy_lVhHw

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(AP) -- COLUMBIA, SC (AP) -- The U.S. House has voted to ban the display of Confederate flags at historic federal cemeteries in the Deep South.

The low-profile move came late Tuesday after a brief debate on a measure funding the National Park Service, which maintains 14 national cemeteries, most of which contain graves of Civil War soldiers.