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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: roo_ster on July 07, 2015, 03:51:14 PM
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http://www.the-american-interest.com/2015/07/06/texas-supremes-strike-blow-against-licensing/
In a 5-4 ruling, the court ruled against the cosmetology license requirement for eyebrow threaders on the grounds that it “is not just unreasonable or harsh, but it is so oppressive that it violates” the Texas State Constitution.
Busting down the barriers to entry for the little guy is a Good Thing.
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In a 5-4 ruling, the court ruled against the cosmetology license requirement for eyebrow threaders on the grounds that it “is not just unreasonable or harsh, but it is so oppressive that it violates” the Texas State Constitution.
If only that was applied to carry permits.
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Eyebrow threading?
Brad
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Eyebrow threading?
Brad
They pretty much use thread that resembles dental floss and pressure to sculpt a woman's eyebrows. Looks a *expletive deleted*it ton less invasive than waxing, and doesn't involve the swearing and cussing that plucking does.
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-eyebrow-threading.htm
https://youtu.be/eWkrVzhuqrE
It's a good thing the state wanted to extract a fee from license these dangerous people, right?
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So, Liberty hangs on by a thread.
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So, Liberty hangs on by a thread.
I'm sure that the threading lobby pulled some strings to get this win.
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*raises eyebrows in surprise*
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*actually just looks that way because of incompetent eyebrow threading by unlicensed practitioner*
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I'm sure that the threading lobby pulled some strings to get this win.
But it took a lot of pluck ;)
5-4 ruling: they just won by a hair.
Anyway, you can't make-up things like this ;/
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But it took a lot of pluck ;)
5-4 ruling: they just won by a hair.
Anyway, you can't make-up things like this ;/
A little slow to the punditry today but your high-brow wit makes up for it.
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From the linked article:
Eyebrow threading is an ancient hair removal technique which uses a twisting thread to pull the hair {out} from the root. Eyebrow threading may cause pain.
2 thoughts: 1) Why not just use tweezers? 2)No *expletive deleted*it Sherlock! :facepalm:
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From the linked article:
2 thoughts: 1) Why not just use tweezers? 2)No *expletive deleted*it Sherlock! :facepalm:
Same reason people would rather wax than tweeze. It comes out in one whack. And from what I gather, threading can efficiently shape the brow quickly.
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What do you guys think about the idea that, in some areas, you need a cosmetology license or similar in order to simply braid hair commercially?
Requirements vary across states, but why should they need to learn all the ins and outs for bleaching and dying hair, scissor safety, rules and usage for chemicals and equipment that aren't even in their shop?
Surely there's a way short of requiring over a hundred hours of training(in some states) in order to ensure that they know to wash their hands and sanitize any combs/brushes?
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What do you guys think about the idea that, in some areas, you need a cosmetology license or similar in order to simply braid hair commercially?
Requirements vary across states, but why should they need to learn all the ins and outs for bleaching and dying hair, scissor safety, rules and usage for chemicals and equipment that aren't even in their shop?
Surely there's a way short of requiring over a hundred hours of training(in some states) in order to ensure that they know to wash their hands and sanitize any combs/brushes?
My kids and wife cut my hair every other month or so and I have yet to spontaneously combust. Not sure that fiddling with someone's hair is serious or risky enough that gov't needs to step in the middle.
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My kids and wife cut my hair every other month or so and I have yet to spontaneously combust. Not sure that fiddling with someone's hair is serious or risky enough that gov't needs to step in the middle.
What we need are reasonable restrictions on scissors :angel:
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My kids and wife cut my hair every other month or so and I have yet to spontaneously combust.
Your day is coming you anarchist!
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Your day is coming you anarchist!
Will you put me up against the wahl and expend a clip in my direction?
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Will you put me up against the wahl and expend a clip in my direction?
You'll be shipped Conair. Then we'll go to great lengths to see you assessed against various guide levels. If that doesn't put you in proper trim, then your earth gets razed and you get clipped.
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My kids and wife cut my hair every other month or so and I have yet to spontaneously combust. Not sure that fiddling with someone's hair is serious or risky enough that gov't needs to step in the middle.
I'm not certain government intervention is necessary either, but I see ~3 levels of safety. This could be done with a commercial, not government, certification.
Level 1: General hair musser. Knowledge necessary: Be able to recognize the signs of lice, nits, and other hair associated nasties they don't want to mess with. Know to wash their hands and dump their combs, brushes, and other tools into the blue sanitizer between customers to avoid transferring said nasties.
Level 2: Hair cutter - they've been trained on the ins and outs of avoiding cutting the skin while efficiently mowing the noggin in the agreed upon pattern. I don't see this as being hard, so commercial certification is more to show that they can give an acceptable ~$10 haircut.
Level 3: Full service - certified for the safe use of the chemicals used in bleaches, dyes, perms, the use of heat beyond a blow dryer, etc...
As I understand it, hair dressers are to dyes and such as licensed pyrotechnics are to fireworks. They have access to ones that can and WILL cause serious damage to a person if used incorrectly. As such, I have no problems with those working in a Salon to have extra training and certification. But the amount needed in a barber shop that only cuts hair should be less, and the amount needed to not even cut hair reduced even from that.
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I'm not certain government intervention is necessary either, but I see ~3 levels of safety. This could be done with a commercial, not government, certification.
Level 1: General hair musser. Knowledge necessary: Be able to recognize the signs of lice, nits, and other hair associated nasties they don't want to mess with. Know to wash their hands and dump their combs, brushes, and other tools into the blue sanitizer between customers to avoid transferring said nasties.
Level 2: Hair cutter - they've been trained on the ins and outs of avoiding cutting the skin while efficiently mowing the noggin in the agreed upon pattern. I don't see this as being hard, so commercial certification is more to show that they can give an acceptable ~$10 haircut.
Level 3: Full service - certified for the safe use of the chemicals used in bleaches, dyes, perms, the use of heat beyond a blow dryer, etc...
As I understand it, hair dressers are to dyes and such as licensed pyrotechnics are to fireworks. They have access to ones that can and WILL cause serious damage to a person if used incorrectly. As such, I have no problems with those working in a Salon to have extra training and certification. But the amount needed in a barber shop that only cuts hair should be less, and the amount needed to not even cut hair reduced even from that.
Of course, if you have a court system in place to allow for suing the *expletive deleted*ck out of someone, those problems will self correct.
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Will you put me up against the wahl and expend a clip in my direction?
paper clip or hair clip?
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Of course, if you have a court system in place to allow for suing the *expletive deleted*ck out of someone, those problems will self correct.
You still have the 'blood from a stone' problem: IE untrained idiot who shouldn't have been doing X in the first place causes $100k+ of damage when he doesn't even have a net worth of $1k, and no prospect of ever having $100k.
So the business folds, the idiot(of either sex) declares bankruptcy and opens another business in a different spot until they burn somebody else(perhaps literally).
Now, if the solution to this is insurance, well, the insurance company ends up being the certification company - IE they won't issue insurance(affordable, at least) without some assurance that the insured party knows what it's doing. Probably by requiring some sort of certification. ;)
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You still have the 'blood from a stone' problem: IE untrained idiot who shouldn't have been doing X in the first place causes $100k+ of damage when he doesn't even have a net worth of $1k, and no prospect of ever having $100k.
So the business folds, the idiot(of either sex) declares bankruptcy and opens another business in a different spot until they burn somebody else(perhaps literally).
Now, if the solution to this is insurance, well, the insurance company ends up being the certification company - IE they won't issue insurance(affordable, at least) without some assurance that the insured party knows what it's doing. Probably by requiring some sort of certification. ;)
The free market would offer a solution through guilds and insurance companies.
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The free market would offer a solution through guilds and insurance companies.
Didn't I just finish a post mentioning insurance companies handling the problem?
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Didn't I just finish a post mentioning insurance companies handling the problem?
beats having the gummint handling the problem
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This thread is both amusing and confusing.
The only hair cutting around here besides reg'lar shaving is I use a nose hair trimmer on my nose and ears.
Oh, and to take off the "old man" wild hairs from my eyebrows. Untended, they grow long enough to actually get in my eyes.
Maybe I should look into this "threading" stuff. Do they do it for nose and ear hairs, too?
Terry
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This thread is both amusing and confusing.
The only hair cutting around here besides reg'lar shaving is I use a nose hair trimmer on my nose and ears.
Oh, and to take off the "old man" wild hairs from my eyebrows. Untended, they grow long enough to actually get in my eyes.
Maybe I should look into this "threading" stuff. Do they do it for nose and ear hairs, too?
Terry
In your case "braiding" may be another option.
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Yeah ! Then I could tie them to my eyeglasses to keep them from sliding down my nose. Hey ! What a great idea !
Terry
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Maybe I should look into this "threading" stuff. Do they do it for nose and ear hairs, too?
Terry
Will threading ever be a substitute for a bikini wax?
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The free market would offer a solution through guilds and insurance companies.
This, and a simple process of informing the customers; if Bubba wants to cut hair without a license or insurance and I, knowing that, still want a $2 hair cut from him, the state has no business interfering with that transaction. With smartphones and QR codes, it's easy enough for a customer to verify the insurance company's sticker on the door and see right away that the barber/scrotum waxer/witch doctor/toenail nibbler at this address has current insurance covering at least $X worth of damages that occur during a specified list of services, and make a true informed decision.
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All the above (insurance Co's, Guild's, QR stickers, etc.) require the .gov to enforce the law.
Court should be very simple, you either pay or spend a day in jail/prison for every x dollars owed. (after all your stuff gets sold). Won't take many 'tards to get that message..
Serves as an incentive to get insurance.
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All the above (insurance Co's, Guild's, QR stickers, etc.) require the .gov to enforce the law.
Not so much; just the contract law in the sense of making it illegal for Bubba to misrepresent himself as having insurance, and making the insurance company pay up if he has it and screws up.
The insurance model also makes it much more practical for a wide field like cosmetology; the insurers have a market incentive to gain customers by requiring only as much training (or demonstration of ability) as necessary so more people will qualify to buy their product. They also have the obvious incentive to make sure they're requiring enough to reduce the likelihood of excessive payouts for a covered procedure by a covered client. That means they have a good reason to sit down and come up with a good number of different packages, each with different requirements, prices and covered procedures lists.