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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: wmenorr67 on July 24, 2015, 08:10:07 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/24/bowe-bergdahl-found-during-california-pot-raid-released-by-officials/
Why in the hell is someone charged with desertion even granted leave? Then if you are granted leave why are you anywhere near a pot growing establishment?
There has to be a whole hell of a lot more to this story that isn't being told.
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Yea, it doesn't pass the sniff test.
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. . . Then if you are granted leave why are you anywhere near a pot growing establishment? . . .
Maybe he'd read that his Commander-in-Chief was implementing a policy of granting clemency to drug offenders?
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We shouldn't get all bent out of joint over this until we hear the entire story. He might have had a really good resin for being there.
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This may get a few noses out of joint.
Brad
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Yea, it doesn't pass the sniff test.
No, but it sure passes the inhale and huff test.
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Maybe he was just rolling up with a bud to check the place out.
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Why in the hell is someone charged with desertion even granted leave? Then if you are granted leave why are you anywhere near a pot growing establishment?
On the first, because he's not considered a flight risk, and regulations on leave are specific about granting it if at all possible?
On the second, I can't say. 'Not connected to the operation'. Hmm... Here's an idea: We all know that 'medical' marijuana is legal per the state of California. Also, part of the reason why Bergdahl was released was 'failing health'. He might of been there as a purchaser, but as he wasn't 'part' of the grow operation, only being a customer, he was too small of a fish for the police to worry about. Especially with the jurisdictional problems with messing with a dude already in trouble with the DoD. If he visited a doctor and got a prescription, the state police couldn't really touch him anyways.
There has to be a whole hell of a lot more to this story that isn't being told.
And I figure it'd probably be 90% boring and 10% scandalous.
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On the first, because he's not considered a flight risk, and regulations on leave are specific about granting it if at all possible?
On the second, I can't say. 'Not connected to the operation'. Hmm... Here's an idea: We all know that 'medical' marijuana is legal per the state of California. Also, part of the reason why Bergdahl was released was 'failing health'. He might of been there as a purchaser, but as he wasn't 'part' of the grow operation, only being a customer, he was too small of a fish for the police to worry about. Especially with the jurisdictional problems with messing with a dude already in trouble with the DoD. If he visited a doctor and got a prescription, the state police couldn't really touch him anyways.
And I figure it'd probably be 90% boring and 10% scandalous.
On the first, damn sure is a flight risk since he already bailed once.
On the second, even if a doctor prescribes you Mary Jane it is still a no-no to partake while you are serving this great country.
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On the first, damn sure is a flight risk since he already bailed once.
Back seat quarterbacking, I'd rather trust the professionals who've had actual contact with him making that decision.
Besides, he's still around, has been free for a relatively long time despite being charged. I'd say that if he's not going to flee despite being 'confined' to base, but free to roam on it, he's probably not going to flee on leave. It's not that hard to get off base in the USA and proceed to disappear somewhere else.
On the second, even if a doctor prescribes you Mary Jane it is still a no-no to partake while you are serving this great country.
Note that I didn't say that he couldn't get into trouble with the DoD for it, just that state officials couldn't do anything.
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Back seat quarterbacking, I'd rather trust the professionals who've had actual contact with him making that decision.
The same type of professionals who dealt with Nidal Hasan, before he went postal?
:rofl:
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The same type of professionals who dealt with Nidal Hasan, before he went postal?
:rofl:
Yoda/"A mark, that will leave."/Yoda
Also, the same system which missed BradleyChelsea "Manning".
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Yoda/"A mark, that will leave."/Yoda
Also, the same system which missed BradleyChelsea "Manning".
No the system just failed to punish all that were involved. Its chain of command should have fried for allowing it to have access.
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No the system just failed to punish all that were involved. Its chain of command should have fried for allowing it to have access.
Of course. I'm using "system" for both prevention, which is nigh impossible, and accountability, which is entirely possible, but ignored.
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Bergdahl was making a pick up for the Choom Gang.
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Bergdahl was making a pick up for the Choom Gang.
Oooh! Nice tie-in. :laugh: If it wasn't so depressing. =(
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The agency confirmed Bergdahl was on leave, and asked for their assistance in getting him back.
If he is on authorized leave and was not connected with the reason for the raid, why did the DOD ask for assistance to get him back? Just wondering.
bob
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UCMJ
ART. 112a. WRONGFUL USE, POSSESSION, ETC., OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who wrongfully uses, possesses, manufactures, distributes, imports into the customs territory of the United States, exports form the United States, or introduces into an installation, vessel, vehicle, or aircraft used by or under the control of the armed forces a substance described in subsection (b) shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(b) The substances refereed to in subsection (a) are the following:
(1) opium, heroin, cocaine, amphetamine, lysergic acid diethylamide, methamephetamine, penecyclidine, barbituric acid, and marijuana, and any compound or derivative of any such substance.
(2) Any substance not specified in clause (1) that is listed on a scheduile of controlled substances prescribed by the President for the purposes of this article.
(3) Any other substance not specified in clause (1) or contained on a list prescribed by the President under clause (2) that is listed in Schedules I through V of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812).
Not withstanding a Medical MJ script, possession is still a federal crime. That makes it wrongful possession. If, of course, he had the slightest discernible amount.
ART. 134. GENERAL ARTICLE
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.
Being in the news about being there brings discredit, etc.
stay safe.
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Being in the news about being there brings discredit, etc.
stay safe.
Eveverything in the news in the last few years concerning military (or society in general) has been elevating degenerates, coddling terrorists, or putting people into roles where they don't belong.
Its all about fundamentally changing america.
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Eveverything in the news in the last few years concerning military (or society in general) has been elevating degenerates, coddling terrorists, or putting people into roles where they don't belong.
Its all about fundamentally changing america.
But e can't have the guy we're going to figure out how to make into a hero go around getting his name and reputation all dirtied up with drugs, can we?
He's not going to have a chat with the First Sergeant. He's going to be invited to tea with his JAG adviser who will explain why this needs to be cleaned up.
stay safe.
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It's not that hard to get off base in the USA and proceed to disappear somewhere else.
True.
After I came home from Vietnam and had ETSed, but before the U.S. declared that we had won the war and had departed South Vietnam, I was active in a sports car club. Another member was a very nice guy named George [___]. He had a lovely wife named Linda, and they had a young child. George held down a full-time job and seemed like just another guy living the American dream.
And then, one day, George was no longer among us. Seems a van load of MPs stopped by where he worked and hauled him away in handcuffs. He was a deserter, and it took them several years to find him, but find him they did. Linda always claimed that he hadn't even told her he was a deserter -- he had bailed out before they even met.
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without a doubt, Bergdahl was AWOL yet again, and looking for a high. Evidently DOD has egg on it's face, and is doing yet another cover up.