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I know this topic was done just before APS moved away from THR, but the old THR APS messages don't appear to be in the new APS database.
And I know from the enthusiasm of the posts from the original thread that lots of folks here will eagerly offer their opinion.
The only thing I remember from the original thread was that Maker's Mark had quite a following.
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Favorite? The one in front of me, of course!
Actually, I cannot claim to have a favorite, but I certainly do enjoy the Eagle Rare 18 year old.
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Give Old Heaven Hill a try. It's a very good 8 year old burbon at a very reasonalble price. Around here, it's cheaper than Jim Beam and tastes much better. Good enough to drink on the rocks, or cheap enough to mix it with something.
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I had in mind something good enough to be a sippin' bourbon.
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I used to buy Elijah Craig exclusively. Recently the price has edged up and I've found myself buying Jim Beam with regularity just to save money. If I splurge, however, I still prefer Elijah Craig.
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Sippin?
Knob Creek!
Of course, I also REALLY like Blanton's...
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I like Knob Creek when I am in the mood for oak
Maker's Mark when I'm not
I like Jim Beam or Old Crow for a mixing bourbon, like for sours, lemonade or sprite.
-C
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Lotsa good bourbons, but I've sorta settled on Maker's Mark. Woodford Reserve is even smoother for sipping...
Art
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They are all too good that's why I don't drink anymore.
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I used to like the expensive stuff but now that I've got that outta my system I mostly drink Jack Daniels.
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I like Wild Turkey 101 (on ice) for sippin' whiskey. I also like plain old Jim Beam. Then again, I ain't got no class.
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I like Hirsch bourbon, but they stopped making it about 10 years ago. For sipping, I like Rowan's creek, and for mixing I like Bulleit Bourbon.
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For sippin', I'm partial to Knob Creek.
For really good friends or family, I skip the bourbon and go straight to pure pot still Irish whiskey, namely Red Breast. Mmmmm....
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I'd like to point out that despite the belligerence and provocation dealt to the scotch drinkers in our thread, none of us have resorted to such low class pettiness here in your thread.
Let this be a commentary on the superior character of the scotch lover.
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I used to like the expensive stuff but now that I've got that outta my system I mostly drink Jack Daniels.
Jack Daniels is NOT bourbon - it is a "bourbon style whiskey".
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"Mellow Corn" is suprisingly good for an inexpensive bourbon.
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"Mellow Corn" is suprisingly good for an inexpensive bourbon.
Is it sold out of the back of a car in the middle of the night in mason jars?
-C
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No, it is a produc tof hte Heaven Hill distillery in Kentucky - although, as it turns out, it is not technically a bourbon weither, but rather a "straight corn whiskey".
http://www.heaven-hill.com/brands-otherwhiskey.html
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I used to like the expensive stuff but now that I've got that outta my system I mostly drink Jack Daniels.
Jack Daniels is NOT bourbon - it is a "bourbon style whiskey".
That is true, I guess I just lump it in with bourbon, much to the chagrin of bourbon die hards.
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Maker's Mark for me. Then Jack Daniels. Jack Daniels is a "sipping whiskey" instead of bourbon for only one reason, it's made in Tennessee. I haven't had either in awhile. Think I'll pour me one tonight.
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I have been drinking Old Fitzgerald for some 45 years now. I am partial to the "1894" version. It is 90 proof, and as smooth as, dare I say it?, a baby's butt. I have a pint bottle of the older style 100 proof stuff, that was made in the late 40's. I am saving that to drink at my daughter's wedding, if she ever gets married, that is.
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What y'all need to do is start making your own whiskey. Only then will you be able to have an informed opinion.
For example, Jim Beam has a distinctive flavor, which some of you like is also why it gives such a headache after consumption...
Can anyone say fusel oil?
Anyway, an interesting and cheap way to learn is:
http://www.brewhaus.com/AmazingStill-Instructions.pdf
Of course, the next step is sharing recipes.
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Jack Daniels is NOT bourbon - it is a "bourbon style whiskey".
Actually, it isn't a "bourbon style whiskey." It is Tennessee whiskey, which has its own unique legal standard. The difference is that Tennessee whiskey goes through a charcoal filtering process (called the Lincoln County Process) which is different from Bourbon.
Jack Daniels is a "sipping whiskey" instead of bourbon for only one reason, it's made in Tennessee.
Not quite. A "sipping whiskey" isn't from a particular location. It denotes a whiskey that ought to enjoyed by itself, rather than bastardized with mixers. Bourbon can be made anywhere in the United States, not just Kentucky.
My favorite day to day sipping whiskey is W. L. Weller Special Reserve.
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Regarding the Amazing Still - is that legal here in the States? I knew one could brew beer or ferment wine in small amounts for home use without Revenoo'r oversight, but I thought hard liquor like whiskey, vodka, or rum needed permits, even for home/automotive use.
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It is illegal to distill your own liquor, even for private consumption.
Anyway, my usual is Very Old Barton 80 proof. Best bargain out there, imo. For more expensive whiskey, its Old VanWinkle, a company that also makes the best rye in the world.
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It is illegal to distill your own liquor, even for private consumption.
Quickly please, do tell me something that's not illegal in these United States...
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Playing in traffic.
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Another Jim Beam fan here. I used to drink Wild Turkey 101proof. That was before I found out the company's owned by a French holding corporation. So I tried Jim Beam and liked it pretty well. That said, I also like Tullamore Dew, but that's not bourbon, but rather a blended Irish whiskey that's a bit pricier. Around here, it seems Jack Daniels and several other brands mentioned run a mite pricier than Jim Beam which has run me $15.45/750ml.
BTW, on another board, I was constantly under fire about Jim Beam. Some posters there wanted to pile on with the vulgarities just because it doesn't cost $40+/750ml. I remember this one stupid troll came on, said his opinion, and then said "I'm sure mustanger98 will have something to say about that".
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I like Wild Turkey 101 (on ice) for sippin' whiskey. I also like plain old Jim Beam. Then again, I ain't got no class.
Same here. If I feel like blowing money on a high end bourbon, it usually Maker's Mark.
I'm more of a Scotch guy anyway.
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Elijah Craig, Knob Creek, Booker's, and Maker's in that order. Not sure what I would do with old #7, since the advent of fuel injection there are not many carbs to clean. Despite not being a Jack fan, and despite the fact it is not Bourbon I ended up with several bottles of Jack Single Barrel, definitely many cuts about regular Jack.
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Woodford Reserve on the rocks, Pappy Van Winkle neat.
Has anyone tried the Distillers Select (I think it's called) aged in cognac barrels? It is quite unique.
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make mine elijah craig!
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Has anyone tried the Distillers Select (I think it's called) aged in cognac barrels?
What is this marketed as? American whiskey, or something else (it can't be called Bourbon).
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I called it the wrong name it is Distillers Masterpiece originally done in Cognac casks now using Port Casks I guess.
ULTRA-CHIC BOURBONS ENTER THE MARKETPLACE
The biggest news coming out of Kentucky this past year is the release of another installment in Jim Beam's DISTILLERS' MASTERPIECE series. This sensational whiskey is the brainchild of legendary master distiller, Booker Noe and the award-winning winemaker of Geyser Peak winery, Daryl Groom.
Distillers' Masterpiece is a small batch Booker Noe Bourbon aged an amazing 20 years and finished in Geyser Peak port casks. Every aspect of this savory bourbonfrom its wafting bouquet to its flavor laden finishhas been softened and enhanced by the influence of the port. The overall effect falls somewhere between elegance and sheer indulgence. Appropriately named, Distillers' Masterpiece carries a price tag of $300.
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Something for you to think about: Why do all the best makers use new casks and the otherguys use used ones? IOW, if used casks were better, why would someone sell them?
Used casks are cheaper than new...
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It is a legal requirement. To be called Bourbon, it must be aged in new white oak casks.
The Distillers Masterpiece will be aged in new white oak (fulfilling the legal requirement) and then finished in the port casks.
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Knob Creek, Woodford Reserve, Elijah Craig, Ezra Brooks.
IMO, Maker's Mark tastes funky.
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Louis XIV.
Someone had to say it.
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Depends.
Why do all the best makers use new casks and the otherguys Smiley use used ones? IOW, if used casks were better, why would someone sell them?
Used casks are cheaper than new...
There's actually a brisk market in used casks, and it's all overseas. Single malt scotch is considered too delicate to mature in new oak casks with strong tannin and vanillin, so after they're done aging, U.S. bourbon and Tennessee whiskey casks are simply shipped to Scotland and Ireland to serve a second life in the aging of scotch. That's all well and good for the U.S. distillers, too, because by law bourbon and Tennessee whiskey must be aged in new casks. Win-win situation.
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Louis XIV.
Someone had to say it.
grapes vs corn?
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"Let them eat grapes," as another famous Bourbon used to say, almost.
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Depends.
Why do all the best makers use new casks and the otherguys Smiley use used ones? IOW, if used casks were better, why would someone sell them?
Used casks are cheaper than new...
There's actually a brisk market in used casks, and it's all overseas. Single malt scotch is considered too delicate to mature in new oak casks with strong tannin and vanillin, so after they're done aging, U.S. bourbon and Tennessee whiskey casks are simply shipped to Scotland and Ireland to serve a second life in the aging of scotch. That's all well and good for the U.S. distillers, too, because by law bourbon and Tennessee whiskey must be aged in new casks. Win-win situation.
I always thought scotch was aged in used sherry casks.
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Depends.
Why do all the best makers use new casks and the otherguys Smiley use used ones? IOW, if used casks were better, why would someone sell them?
Used casks are cheaper than new...
There's actually a brisk market in used casks, and it's all overseas. Single malt scotch is considered too delicate to mature in new oak casks with strong tannin and vanillin, so after they're done aging, U.S. bourbon and Tennessee whiskey casks are simply shipped to Scotland and Ireland to serve a second life in the aging of scotch. That's all well and good for the U.S. distillers, too, because by law bourbon and Tennessee whiskey must be aged in new casks. Win-win situation.
I always thought scotch was aged in used sherry casks.
They can be, and it is a "premium feature" of the whiskey. But the standard aging is done in old bourbon casks.
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okay so I went to grocery store to pick up some stuff for the next few days and remembered that I was out of bourbon at home. So I head over the the liqour section, they are out of Makers Mark and Jim Beam, so I figured what the heck I'll try some Evan Williams (90 Proof). Well I am enjoying a double bourbon and sprite right now and its not bad for $11 a bottle.
-C
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Maker's Mark for me. I'm always up for something new, though.
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I draw distinctions between bourbon and Tennessee Sourmash whiskey. I prefer the latter, and Jack Daniel's or George Dickel is just fine by moi. Among the blended bourbons, I just don't appreciate the difference between MM and, oh, say Early Times.
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I'm really a scotch guy, but I was recently turned on to Basil Hayden's, and that stuff is good. Eagle Rare is really good as well.