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Title: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Silver Bullet on November 12, 2006, 07:26:34 AM
I know this topic was done just before APS moved away from THR, but the old THR APS messages don't appear to be in the new APS database.

And I know from the enthusiasm of the posts from the original thread that lots of folks here will eagerly offer their opinion.

The only thing I remember from the original thread was that Maker's Mark had quite a following.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Chuck Dye on November 12, 2006, 07:41:18 AM
Favorite?  The one in front of me, of course!

Actually, I cannot claim to have a favorite, but I certainly do enjoy the Eagle Rare 18 year old.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: thebaldguy on November 12, 2006, 07:49:48 AM
Give Old Heaven Hill a try. It's a very good 8 year old burbon at a very reasonalble price. Around here, it's cheaper than Jim Beam and tastes much better. Good enough to drink on the rocks, or cheap enough to  mix it with something.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Silver Bullet on November 12, 2006, 08:22:07 AM
I had in mind something good enough to be a sippin' bourbon.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Devonai on November 12, 2006, 09:27:41 AM
I used to buy Elijah Craig exclusively.  Recently the price has edged up and I've found myself buying Jim Beam with regularity just to save money.  If I splurge, however, I still prefer Elijah Craig.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Bogie on November 12, 2006, 12:13:38 PM
Sippin?
 
Knob Creek!
 
Of course, I also REALLY like Blanton's...
 
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: charby on November 12, 2006, 05:23:04 PM
I like Knob Creek when I am in the mood for oak

Maker's Mark when I'm not

I like Jim Beam or Old Crow for a mixing bourbon, like for sours, lemonade or sprite.

-C

Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Art Eatman on November 12, 2006, 05:39:28 PM
Lotsa good bourbons, but I've sorta settled on Maker's Mark.  Woodford Reserve is even smoother for sipping...

Art
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: 308win on November 13, 2006, 10:18:42 AM
They are all too good that's why I don't drink anymore.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: ...has left the building. on November 13, 2006, 01:07:22 PM
I used to like the expensive stuff but now that I've got that outta my system I mostly drink Jack Daniels.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: SkunkApe on November 13, 2006, 01:38:19 PM
I like Wild Turkey 101 (on ice) for sippin' whiskey.  I also like plain old Jim Beam.  Then again, I ain't got no class.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: auschip on November 13, 2006, 03:39:46 PM
I like Hirsch bourbon, but they stopped making it about 10 years ago.  For sipping, I like Rowan's creek, and for mixing I like Bulleit Bourbon. 
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Gewehr98 on November 13, 2006, 06:01:35 PM
For sippin', I'm partial to Knob Creek.

For really good friends or family, I skip the bourbon and go straight to pure pot still Irish whiskey, namely Red Breast.  Mmmmm....
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on November 13, 2006, 06:24:29 PM
I'd like to point out that despite the belligerence and provocation dealt to the scotch drinkers in our thread, none of us have resorted to such low class pettiness here in your thread. 

Let this be a commentary on the superior character of the scotch lover.  Tongue
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: richyoung on November 14, 2006, 05:53:14 AM
I used to like the expensive stuff but now that I've got that outta my system I mostly drink Jack Daniels.

Jack Daniels is NOT bourbon - it is a "bourbon style whiskey".
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: richyoung on November 14, 2006, 05:54:11 AM
"Mellow Corn" is suprisingly good for an inexpensive bourbon.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: charby on November 14, 2006, 06:40:36 AM
"Mellow Corn" is suprisingly good for an inexpensive bourbon.

Is it sold out of the back of a car in the middle of the night in mason jars?

-C
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: richyoung on November 14, 2006, 07:42:06 AM
No, it is a produc tof hte Heaven Hill distillery in Kentucky - although, as it turns out, it is not technically a bourbon weither, but rather a "straight corn whiskey".

http://www.heaven-hill.com/brands-otherwhiskey.html
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: ...has left the building. on November 14, 2006, 08:32:15 AM
I used to like the expensive stuff but now that I've got that outta my system I mostly drink Jack Daniels.

Jack Daniels is NOT bourbon - it is a "bourbon style whiskey".

That is true, I guess I just lump it in with bourbon, much to the chagrin of bourbon die hards.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: RandyC on November 14, 2006, 10:53:49 AM
Maker's Mark for me.  Then Jack Daniels.  Jack Daniels is a "sipping whiskey" instead of bourbon for only one reason, it's made in Tennessee.  I haven't had either in awhile.  Think I'll pour me one tonight. grin
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Mannlicher on November 14, 2006, 11:44:39 AM
I have been drinking Old Fitzgerald for some 45 years now.  I am partial to the "1894" version.  It is 90 proof, and as smooth as, dare I say it?, a baby's butt.  I  have a pint bottle of the older style 100 proof stuff, that was made in the late 40's.  I am saving that to drink at my daughter's wedding, if she ever gets married, that is.  grin
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Otherguy Overby on November 14, 2006, 12:13:42 PM

What y'all need to do is start making your own whiskey.  Only then will you be able to have an informed opinion.

For example, Jim Beam has a distinctive flavor, which some of you like is also why it gives such a headache after consumption...

Can anyone say fusel oil?

Anyway, an interesting and cheap way to learn is:

http://www.brewhaus.com/AmazingStill-Instructions.pdf

Of course, the next step is sharing recipes.   Smiley
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: TaxPhd on November 14, 2006, 12:34:07 PM
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Jack Daniels is NOT bourbon - it is a "bourbon style whiskey".

Actually, it isn't a "bourbon style whiskey."  It is Tennessee whiskey, which has its own unique legal standard.  The difference is that Tennessee whiskey goes through a charcoal filtering process (called the Lincoln County Process) which is different from Bourbon.

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Jack Daniels is a "sipping whiskey" instead of bourbon for only one reason, it's made in Tennessee.

Not quite.  A "sipping whiskey" isn't from a particular location.  It denotes a whiskey that ought to enjoyed by itself, rather than bastardized with mixers.  Bourbon can be made anywhere in the United States, not just Kentucky.

My favorite day to day sipping whiskey is W. L. Weller Special Reserve.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Gewehr98 on November 14, 2006, 12:56:04 PM
Regarding the Amazing Still - is that legal here in the States?  I knew one could brew beer or ferment wine in small amounts for home use without Revenoo'r oversight, but I thought hard liquor like whiskey, vodka, or rum needed permits, even for home/automotive use.   undecided
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: The Rabbi on November 14, 2006, 12:57:48 PM
It is illegal to distill your own liquor, even for private consumption.  angry

Anyway, my usual is Very Old Barton 80 proof.  Best bargain out there, imo.  For more expensive whiskey, its Old VanWinkle, a company that also makes the best rye in the world.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Otherguy Overby on November 14, 2006, 01:23:02 PM
It is illegal to distill your own liquor, even for private consumption.  angry

Quickly please, do tell me something that's not illegal in these United States...

Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: The Rabbi on November 14, 2006, 01:31:25 PM
Playing in traffic. smiley
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: mustanger98 on November 14, 2006, 01:54:38 PM
Another Jim Beam fan here. I used to drink Wild Turkey 101proof. That was before I found out the company's owned by a French holding corporation. So I tried Jim Beam and liked it pretty well. That said, I also like Tullamore Dew, but that's not bourbon, but rather a blended Irish whiskey that's a bit pricier. Around here, it seems Jack Daniels and several other brands mentioned run a mite pricier than Jim Beam which has run me $15.45/750ml.

BTW, on another board, I was constantly under fire about Jim Beam. Some posters there wanted to pile on with the vulgarities just because it doesn't cost $40+/750ml. I remember this one stupid troll came on, said his opinion, and then said "I'm sure mustanger98 will have something to say about that".
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: stevelyn on November 14, 2006, 02:34:13 PM
I like Wild Turkey 101 (on ice) for sippin' whiskey.  I also like plain old Jim Beam.  Then again, I ain't got no class.

Same here. If I feel like blowing money on a high end bourbon, it usually Maker's Mark.

I'm more of a Scotch guy anyway.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: French G. on November 14, 2006, 07:53:38 PM
Elijah Craig, Knob Creek, Booker's, and Maker's in that order.  Not sure what I would do with old #7, since the advent of fuel injection there are not many carbs to clean.  Despite not being a Jack fan, and despite the fact it is not Bourbon I ended up with several bottles of Jack Single Barrel, definitely many cuts about regular Jack.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Polishrifleman on November 15, 2006, 08:29:36 AM
Woodford Reserve on the rocks, Pappy Van Winkle neat.

Has anyone tried the Distillers Select (I think it's called) aged in cognac barrels?  It is quite unique.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Target Farget on November 15, 2006, 10:28:10 AM
make mine elijah craig!
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: TaxPhd on November 15, 2006, 11:38:17 AM
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Has anyone tried the Distillers Select (I think it's called) aged in cognac barrels?

What is this marketed as? American whiskey, or something else (it can't be called Bourbon).
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Polishrifleman on November 16, 2006, 07:57:36 AM
I called it the wrong name it is Distillers Masterpiece originally done in Cognac casks now using Port Casks I guess.

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ULTRA-CHIC BOURBONS ENTER THE MARKETPLACE
The biggest news coming out of Kentucky this past year is the release of another installment in Jim Beam's DISTILLERS' MASTERPIECE series. This sensational whiskey is the brainchild of legendary master distiller, Booker Noe and the award-winning winemaker of Geyser Peak winery, Daryl Groom.

Distillers' Masterpiece is a small batch Booker Noe Bourbon aged an amazing 20 years and finished in Geyser Peak port casks. Every aspect of this savory bourbonfrom its wafting bouquet to its flavor laden finishhas been softened and enhanced by the influence of the port. The overall effect falls somewhere between elegance and sheer indulgence. Appropriately named, Distillers' Masterpiece carries a price tag of $300.

Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Otherguy Overby on November 16, 2006, 08:33:48 AM

Something for you to think about:  Why do all the best makers use new casks and the otherguys Smiley use used ones?  IOW, if used casks were better, why would someone sell them?

Used casks are cheaper than new...
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: TaxPhd on November 16, 2006, 10:27:31 AM
It is a legal requirement.  To be called Bourbon, it must be aged in new white oak casks.

The Distillers Masterpiece will be aged in new white oak (fulfilling the legal requirement) and then finished in the port casks.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Dave Markowitz on November 16, 2006, 04:05:30 PM
Knob Creek, Woodford Reserve, Elijah Craig, Ezra Brooks.

IMO, Maker's Mark tastes funky.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 16, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
Louis XIV. 




Someone had to say it.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Gewehr98 on November 16, 2006, 05:47:05 PM
Depends.

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Why do all the best makers use new casks and the otherguys Smiley use used ones?  IOW, if used casks were better, why would someone sell them?

Used casks are cheaper than new...

There's actually a brisk market in used casks, and it's all overseas.  Single malt scotch is considered too delicate to mature in new oak casks with strong tannin and vanillin, so after they're done aging, U.S. bourbon and Tennessee whiskey casks are simply shipped to Scotland and Ireland to serve a second life in the aging of scotch.  That's all well and good for the U.S. distillers, too, because by law bourbon and Tennessee whiskey must be aged in new casks. Win-win situation.  Cheesy
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: charby on November 16, 2006, 07:09:16 PM
Louis XIV. 




Someone had to say it.

grapes vs corn?

Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 16, 2006, 08:25:34 PM
"Let them eat grapes," as another famous Bourbon used to say, almost.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: stevelyn on November 19, 2006, 03:20:04 AM
Depends.

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Why do all the best makers use new casks and the otherguys Smiley use used ones?  IOW, if used casks were better, why would someone sell them?

Used casks are cheaper than new...

There's actually a brisk market in used casks, and it's all overseas.  Single malt scotch is considered too delicate to mature in new oak casks with strong tannin and vanillin, so after they're done aging, U.S. bourbon and Tennessee whiskey casks are simply shipped to Scotland and Ireland to serve a second life in the aging of scotch.  That's all well and good for the U.S. distillers, too, because by law bourbon and Tennessee whiskey must be aged in new casks. Win-win situation.  Cheesy

I always thought scotch was aged in used sherry casks.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: The Rabbi on November 19, 2006, 03:36:38 AM
Depends.

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Why do all the best makers use new casks and the otherguys Smiley use used ones?  IOW, if used casks were better, why would someone sell them?

Used casks are cheaper than new...

There's actually a brisk market in used casks, and it's all overseas.  Single malt scotch is considered too delicate to mature in new oak casks with strong tannin and vanillin, so after they're done aging, U.S. bourbon and Tennessee whiskey casks are simply shipped to Scotland and Ireland to serve a second life in the aging of scotch.  That's all well and good for the U.S. distillers, too, because by law bourbon and Tennessee whiskey must be aged in new casks. Win-win situation.  Cheesy

I always thought scotch was aged in used sherry casks.

They can be, and it is a "premium feature" of the whiskey.  But the standard aging is done in old bourbon casks.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: charby on November 20, 2006, 05:30:56 PM
okay so I went to grocery store to pick up some stuff for the next few days and remembered that I was out of bourbon at home. So I head over the the liqour section, they are out of Makers Mark and Jim Beam, so I figured what the heck I'll try some Evan Williams (90 Proof). Well I am enjoying a double bourbon and sprite right now and its not bad for $11 a bottle.

-C
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on November 20, 2006, 07:47:59 PM
Maker's Mark for me.  I'm always up for something new, though.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: Hutch on November 21, 2006, 05:06:33 AM
I draw distinctions between bourbon and Tennessee Sourmash whiskey.  I prefer the latter, and Jack Daniel's or George Dickel is just fine by moi.  Among the blended bourbons, I just don't appreciate the difference between MM and, oh, say Early Times.
Title: Re: Favorite bourbon ?
Post by: LandShark on November 22, 2006, 09:54:38 AM
I'm really a scotch guy, but I was recently turned on to Basil Hayden's, and that stuff is good. Eagle Rare is really good as well.