Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ned Hamford on December 16, 2015, 09:27:53 PM
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How do you think your citizenship score would be? The USA tradition (in some theories) tends more towards the best citizens making the most 'trouble' for the 'establishment.'
https://youtu.be/lHcTKWiZ8sI
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A little more on "Sesame Credit":
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186
The BBC article downplays the "obedient citizen" angle of the social credit score.
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Putting the more Orwellian and Authoritarian attributes of this Chinese implementation aside, some have speculated that a post-scarcity or near-post-scarcity society that has deflated money out of existence due to unlimited material wealth, and all physical needs being met around the world, might move to a reputation-based currency because the only scarcity left would be kindness, helpfulness, and artistic expression, and the only physical scarcity would be things like ocean and mountain views, apartment buildings with good views, or the sunny side of the building, or proximity to cultural centers, or seclusion at desireable places in the wilderness.
Kind of like Reddit "gold" from people who like or appreciate your posts. The likes you get on Facebook, but added into real-world transactions, like an art piece you made, an author, gourmet cooking not done by robot, or well.. probably not shoveling your elderly neighbor's driveway, but their robot snowblower got stuck, and they're too small/frail to move it, so you run out in boots and bathrobe to unstick it, and she zaps you $5 in internet smiley gold as thanks.
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Putting the more Orwellian and Authoritarian attributes of this Chinese implementation aside, some have speculated that a post-scarcity or near-post-scarcity society that has deflated money out of existence due to unlimited material wealth, and all physical needs being met around the world, might move to a reputation-based currency because the only scarcity left would be kindness, helpfulness, and artistic expression, and the only physical scarcity would be things like ocean and mountain views, apartment buildings with good views, or the sunny side of the building, or proximity to cultural centers, or seclusion at desireable places in the wilderness.
Kind of like Reddit "gold" from people who like or appreciate your posts. The likes you get on Facebook, but added into real-world transactions, like an art piece you made, an author, gourmet cooking not done by robot, or well.. probably not shoveling your elderly neighbor's driveway, but their robot snowblower got stuck, and they're too small/frail to move it, so you run out in boots and bathrobe to unstick it, and she zaps you $5 in internet smiley gold as thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie
There's a science fiction novel featuring this.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie
There's a science fiction novel featuring this.
I was thinking of just that story. Cory Doctorow is a bit to Libertarian Left, something I find to be oxymoronic, so I didn't feel like giving him the bump. =D
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I think our politicians are reading this about China and nodding their heads . . .
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I was thinking of just that story. Cory Doctorow is a bit to Libertarian Left, something I find to be oxymoronic, so I didn't feel like giving him the bump. =D
I've read a couple of his books... He's becoming more and more Occupy Wall Street. Not exactly subtle about it either, it was the entirely point of one of his books that OWS was America's only salvation. He's not libertarian left, he's quasi anarchist left.
More power to him if he can make money from that crowd. He's an ok but not great writer. He leans too hard on the message fic, even message fic I happen to agree with, to be a good writer. Good guys are Good even if they're terrible people by objective standards. Bad Guys (ie anyone who works for the government, a company or IP holder) are Bad because they are Bad, and have no motivation other than being Bad. All cops are bad, period. All government employees are drooling to torture innocent left leaning individuals. All corporate IP is bad, and people are stupid for consuming any IP that isn't creative commons. Rich are bad, always. Corporations are totally bad, man. Drugs and vegetarianism are awesome. Blah blah blah
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I've read a couple of his books... He's becoming more and more Occupy Wall Street. Not exactly subtle about it either, it was the entirely point of one of his books that OWS was America's only salvation. He's not libertarian left, he's quasi anarchist left.
More power to him if he can make money from that crowd. He's an ok but not great writer. He leans too hard on the message fic, even message fic I happen to agree with, to be a good writer. Good guys are Good even if they're terrible people by objective standards. Bad Guys (ie anyone who works for the government, a company or IP holder) are Bad because they are Bad, and have no motivation other than being Bad. All cops are bad, period. All government employees are drooling to torture innocent left leaning individuals. All corporate IP is bad, and people are stupid for consuming any IP that isn't creative commons. Rich are bad, always. Corporations are totally bad, man. Drugs and vegetarianism are awesome. Blah blah blah
Gets bloody old from people that you'd otherwise consider intelligent.