“If you’re a criminal alien, no, you can’t stay. If you’re someone that hasn’t been here for a very long time, you can’t stay,” he said. “I don’t think you’re gonna round up and deport 12 million people.”
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“If circumstances change or you learn something along the way, it’s reasonable to say, ‘Maybe a different approach will work better,’” Rubio said. “So, for example, on immigration it is clear no comprehensive solution to immigration is going to pass.”
“I don’t think you’re gonna round up and deport 12 million people.”
Do YOU think we're going to actually round up and deport 12 million? EACH person we round up gets a court hearing. That's 12 million court hearings. That will last from now until Admiral Kirk finally whacks Khan.Meh... between the crap economy, and even just "enforcing as hard as we can", and some serious border security, preventing additional friends or family from joining them, many would self-deport. And of course, even if I'm wrong, that's no reason to sit there and let the problem get worse.
We used to be able to do these deportations but the courts have intervened and ruled they must be given hearings.
So, basically, we're f****D.
Meh... between the crap economy, and even just "enforcing as hard as we can", and some serious border security, preventing additional friends or family from joining them, many would self-deport. And of course, even if I'm wrong, that's no reason to sit there and let the problem get worse.
Don't need courts for employer enforcement either.
As a Libertarian I accept the larger arguments about open borders, but I fully recognize that there's a intentional purpose behind the current immigration that has anything but a libertarian outcome behind it.
It should be the last piece of libertarian policy enacted, not the first.
Do YOU think we're going to actually round up and deport 12 million? EACH person we round up gets a court hearing. That's 12 million court hearings. That will last from now until Admiral Kirk finally whacks Khan.
We used to be able to do these deportations but the courts have intervened and ruled they must be given hearings.
So, basically, we're f****D.
It should be the last piece of libertarian policy enacted, not the first.
Meh... between the crap economy, and even just "enforcing as hard as we can", and some serious border security, preventing additional friends or family from joining them, many would self-deport. And of course, even if I'm wrong, that's no reason to sit there and let the problem get worse.
Don't need courts for employer enforcement either.
As a Libertarian I accept the larger arguments about open borders, but I fully recognize that there's a intentional purpose behind the current immigration that has anything but a libertarian outcome behind it.
It should be the last piece of libertarian policy enacted, not the first.
I am sure something could be done about the processing and court procedures. I bet a lot of that is deliberately complicated to make it harder to deport illegals.
Might also need to come up with a system for businesses to check on if applicants are illegal or not. Take away the "I didn't know" excuse.
E-Verify is an Internet-based system that allows businesses to determine the eligibility of their employees to work in the United States. E-Verify is fast, free and easy to use – and it’s the best way employers can ensure a legal workforce.
I am sure something could be done about the processing and court procedures. I bet a lot of that is deliberately complicated to make it harder to deport illegals.
Might also need to come up with a system for businesses to check on if applicants are illegal or not. Take away the "I didn't know" excuse.
There already is "E-verify".
And yes, have 24 hour courts. Not fleeing from a repressive (as defined by the State Dept, and those 'tards are reluctant to name any country as "repressive", especially a friendly ally like Mexico.) country, trebucheted back across the border.
BUT, we need to allow employers to check that BEFORE hiring an individual. If I recall correctly, current law forbids checking that until you have already employed someone.
Not the last time I checked. Individuals still have to complete the I-9 form as part of the hiring process. Should they fail the E-verify, then they don't get hired.
And denying them welfare and other benefits. No work, no money, no aqui.
Not the last time I checked. Individuals still have to complete the I-9 form as part of the hiring process. Should they fail the E-verify, then they don't get hired.
Your employer may only check E-Verify after you have been
offered and have accepted a job, and you have completed the
Form I-9. Your employer may not use E-Verify on applicants
(i.e., pre-screening you through E-Verify before hiring you), and
your employer may not use E-Verify selectively to verify some
employees and not others.
The earliest the employer may initiate a query is after an individual accepts an offer of employment and after the employee and employer complete the Form I-9. The employer must initiate the query no later than the end of three business days after the new hire’s actual start date.
Although an employer may initiate the query before a new hire’s actual start date, it may not pre-screen applicants and may not delay training or an actual start date based upon a tentative non-confirmation or a delay in the receipt of a confirmation of employment authorization. In short, an employee should not face any adverse employment consequences based upon an employer’s use of E-Verify unless a query results in a final nonconfirmation.
For this reason, if the query returns an employment authorization response, an employer cannot speed up the employee’s agreed upon start-date, as that would be disparate treatment based upon E-Verify results of this employee compared to another who may have received a tentative non-confirmation. For example, Company X always assigns a start-date to new employees that are two weeks after the employee has submitted an approved drug test. After the employee has accepted a job with Company X, and after the employee and Company X complete the Form I-9, the company can initiate the E-Verify query. However, the company cannot speed up or delay the employee’s start-date based upon the results of the query (unless the program issues a final non-confirmation, in which case the employee should not be further employed).
Employers must verify employees in a non-discriminatory manner, and may not schedule the timing of queries based upon the new hire’s national origin, citizenship status, race, or other prohibited characteristic.
Build one trebuchet and pack in 12 million illegals. Should be interesting to watch. Sell tickets. Pay off the national debt. [popcorn]
Seriously, anchor baby should go away. In addition, I think I'd say that anyone here as an illegal should step forward if they have a job, health insurance or Obamacare, no criminal record and are not collecting any goobermint benefit. Give 'em a get-out-of-illegal-alien-status card, must swear allegiance to America and stay out of any criminal activity, continue to be employed for a period of time...say 3-5 years, learn English during that period and then be sworn in as a citizen. That should happen AFTER the borders and ports are secured. Everyone else that can't qualify gets deported when nabbed.
So, employers can only use e-verify AFTER offering the job AND cannot wait for e-verify to come back before allowing the employee to start/get training...
Do YOU think we're going to actually round up and deport 12 million? EACH person we round up gets a court hearing.