Post by: zahc on November 26, 2006, 06:05:53 PM
I'm interested in getting one or more nontraditional kilts; I like the looks of the utilikilts, but they are over $100, which is too much for this poor college student...I try not to spend more than ten bucks on pants. I'm not irish and I don't care to express any irish vibes (sniffs of poserdom to me), so I like the ones that are basically the fashion equivalent of like cargo shorts, only without that irritating inseam. And they have to have functional side pockets so I can carry my knife and some loose cash.
Post by: charby on November 26, 2006, 06:14:13 PM
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Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on November 26, 2006, 07:53:15 PM
Post by: Car Knocker on November 26, 2006, 08:00:51 PM
Post by: L on November 26, 2006, 09:06:19 PM
Post by: Stand_watie on November 26, 2006, 10:55:35 PM
It's easier to run with your skirt up than with your pants down.
Supposedly why some American Indians resisted switching to pants from loincloths.."ambush while pooping" apparently being a worldwide historical military tactic.
Post by: The Rabbi on November 26, 2006, 11:20:19 PM
Post by: gunsmith on November 26, 2006, 11:56:33 PM
I nearly got the attitude beat out of me when I lived in Ireland.
I couldn't help but comment "nice dress" to the guys in kilts...they get so upset it's a real hoot to wind them up!
Post by: LadySmith on November 27, 2006, 12:08:40 AM
What are some of the CCW issues that arise when wearing a kilt/skirt?
I'm not being smart-alecky at all & really want to know.
Post by: El Tejon on November 27, 2006, 02:14:01 AM
Before long they became popular and suddenly became of "ancient" origin as a political statement against their English masters.
Post by: 280plus on November 27, 2006, 02:48:27 AM
I have also read a story by a VN vet who WAS ambushed with his pants down and fought the whole fire fight that way. It was called, "The Night I Mooned the Entire North Vietnamese Army".
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 27, 2006, 03:27:53 AM
What possible advantage could a skirt have over a good pair of pants or shorts?
What possible advantage could shorts have over pants?
Post by: Nick1911 on November 27, 2006, 03:38:44 AM
That said, I think I'd feel out of place wearing one in everyday life, but it was very cool to try it - and truth be told, it wasn't bad.
Post by: Stickjockey on November 27, 2006, 05:01:17 AM
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No, no skirts for me. Too much like these fellows here:
Yeah, or these nancy boys.
Careful, gunsmith; they call it a "kilt" for a reason!
Ladysmith-
The waistband on a traditional kilt sits a bit higher than the waistband on a pair of trousers. Can kinda tuck the gun up into your armpit if your carrying IWB. Prime opportunity for pocket/sporran carry, or a great excuse to get a Utilikilt.
Headless Thompson Gunner-
You'd be amazed at how much the ladies dig a guy in a kilt.
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They feared the Scottish second because they figured anybody who wore a kilt into battle HAD to be crazy.
Called 'em "the Ladies from Hell," Jerry did.
Post by: Preacherman on November 27, 2006, 05:04:13 AM
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 27, 2006, 05:07:09 AM
I've read the the Germans in WWII feared the Australians most because they were all lifelong bushman, trackers and crack shots. They feared the Scottish second because they figured anybody who wore a kilt into battle HAD to be crazy.
I have also read a story by a VN vet who WAS ambushed with his pants down and fought the whole fire fight that way. It was called, "The Night I Mooned the Entire North Vietnamese Army".
I have also read a story by a VN vet who WAS ambushed with his pants down and fought the whole fire fight that way. It was called, "The Night I Mooned the Entire North Vietnamese Army".
I know who the Germans feared the most
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Belleau_Wood
Post by: 280plus on November 27, 2006, 05:13:28 AM
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 27, 2006, 05:18:51 AM
Good read, thanks! I'm not going to argue the point at all.
After Marines were repeatedly urged to turn back by retreating French forces, Marine Captain Lloyd Williams of the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marines uttered the now-famous retort "Retreat, hell. We just got here."
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After the battle, the French renamed the wood "Bois de la Brigade de Marine" ("Wood of the Marine Brigade") in honor of the Marines' tenacity. The French government also later awarded the 4th Brigade the Croix de Guerre. Belleau Wood is also where the Marines got their German nickname of "Teufelshunde" or "Devil Dogs" for the ferocity with which they attacked the German lines. An official German report classified the Marines as "vigorous, self-confident, and remarkable marksmen..."[6]
Post by: Sylvilagus Aquaticus on November 27, 2006, 06:35:37 AM
Yes, the women love men in kilts.
In response to the age-old question "What's worn under a kilt?", the proper answer is "Nothing's worn- it's all in proper working order".
Back last summer SWMBO and I were at a local agora. SWMBO told me she overheard a lady rebuking her husband after punching him in the chest "It's not a skirt, stupid, he's wearing a kilt!". Stuff like that makes me grin. At the time I was wearing a Utilikilt Workman model with a Comp-Tac CTAC containing a P229 and a denim shirt. It's not difficult to CCW while wearing a kilt by any means. With the Workman model, which can be summed up as cargo pants without the leg parts, you can carry a full sixpack of Guinness, keys, flashlight, wallet, pager, cellphone, a couple of reloads, and your big and little Roscoes in comfort. Use enough belt.
Regards,
Rabbit.
Post by: Car Knocker on November 27, 2006, 07:15:51 AM
What are some of the CCW issues that arise when wearing a kilt/skirt?
Gives a guy a chance to wear that tactical black nylon thigh holster concealed.
Post by: HankB on November 27, 2006, 07:39:22 AM
Seems a young Scottish lad was pitching woo to a young Scottish lass in her daddy's barn one night.
Well, apparently their frolics were rather noisy, which roused the young lass's daddy who came out to the barn to investigate.
Hearing him coming, the young couple threw on their clothes in a hurry, and made a bit of a mistake in the process.
When daddy came into the barn with his lantern, and saw the young man standing there wearing his daughter's skirt, well, it's pretty much predictable what the outcome was for the lad.
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He got kilt.
Post by: Mannlicher on November 27, 2006, 08:22:35 AM
Post by: lupinus on November 27, 2006, 08:48:28 AM
Other then that I prefer it a wee less breezy.
Post by: Cromlech on November 27, 2006, 08:55:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJSGky4F4U
Post by: grislyatoms on November 27, 2006, 09:20:01 AM
Post by: grampster on November 27, 2006, 10:05:20 AM
especially if one was not wearing any underwear.
Post by: MillCreek on November 27, 2006, 10:45:52 AM
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on November 27, 2006, 10:51:12 AM
What possible advantage could a skirt have over a good pair of pants or shorts?
What possible advantage could shorts have over pants?Better fit, better comfort, better protection for your legs, pockets, better mobility, no danger of your skirt coming up and exposing bits that oughtn't be exposed, the ability to carry a pistol with a conventional belt/holster, warmth...
I'm not sure how you'd ride your bike in a skirt.
I'm genuinely curious about what you gain when you switch from pants/shorts to a kilt. I can understand the Scottish folks doing justice to their heritage. But what on earth does switching to a skirt gain for the rest of us?
Post by: Iain on November 27, 2006, 11:00:02 AM
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I'm genuinely curious about what you gain when you switch from pants/shorts to a kilt. I can understand the Scottish folks doing justice to their heritage. But what on earth does switching to a skirt gain for the rest of us?
Reliable airflow to ensure better testicular conditions. Who knows, perhaps the kilt wearing man freaks will outbreed the rest of us.
Ashamed to admit that it's really only the taboo that HTG mentions that prevents me from considering it. I've worn a skirt before (university days) and it wasn't an unpleasant experience, a more manly cut and design would be preferable as I'd make an awfully unconvincing transvestite these days.
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 27, 2006, 11:08:37 AM
FWIW, I have a very low tolerance for hot, humid conditions. I have worn BDU's from Georgia to Texas to Louisiana, and been perfectly miserable, but never felt the desire to wear short pants or a kilt. Short sleeves would have been nice.
Post by: zahc on November 27, 2006, 11:33:56 AM
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If a skirt has some advantage, why were women fighting for the right to wear pants?
Well for one thing, pants suit female anatomy better. Also, women didn't relinquish the skirt. They have any options they want. Men don't. Pants are better for most things. However, the chill factor of the skirt cannot be beaten. The only thing keeping me away is the lack of availability and high prices.
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 27, 2006, 12:10:21 PM
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If a skirt has some advantage, why were women fighting for the right to wear pants?
Well for one thing, pants suit female anatomy better.
I should be more candid. I know that some men want to wear a kilt just to be different, which is sometimes a good motive. I would like to know why women wanted the option of pants, though, as I don't really understand that. I know many women who never wear pants, and they don't seem limited or challenged in any way.
Post by: Zoogster on November 27, 2006, 01:13:32 PM
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I've read the the Germans in WWII feared the Australians most because they were all lifelong bushman, trackers and crack shots.
Well they wouldn't have to fear that now, as the fighting age young man from Australia in a few years will have grown up in a society where guns, crossbows, knives, etc are illegal and heavily restricted thier whole life and have littled experience in such things Post by: crt360 on November 27, 2006, 02:01:16 PM
I'm still looking for some reason why skirts or shorts are better than long pants.
FWIW, I have a very low tolerance for hot, humid conditions. I have worn BDU's from Georgia to Texas to Louisiana, and been perfectly miserable, but never felt the desire to wear short pants or a kilt. Short sleeves would have been nice.
FWIW, I have a very low tolerance for hot, humid conditions. I have worn BDU's from Georgia to Texas to Louisiana, and been perfectly miserable, but never felt the desire to wear short pants or a kilt. Short sleeves would have been nice.
I think you answered your own question. Shorts are way more comfortable in hot, humid conditions. They also allow much more freedom of movement. You can wade through creeks and continue on without having wet pantlegs slowing you down. You can swim in them. If you hop on a bike, the leg of your shorts will not get caught in the chain. They can have as many pockets as BDU's.
For most people, the only reason to wear long pants is to protect the legs from cold weather (rare here in Texas) and for "dress" occasions. Some people seem to be uncomfortable with the appearance of their legs - I guess that's another common reason to always wear long pants.
Post by: Guest on November 27, 2006, 04:02:37 PM
I wear long pants when I'm going to be doing something active and don't want to worry about my ass hanging out in the wind.
I wear long skirts around the house because they're comfortable.
I wear short swhen the weather is hot and I have active things to do so I don't sweat as much.
I wear skirts when the weather is not and I'm just lounging around.
I wear skirts because its expected in formal situations.
No one is saying pants are better than skirts or that shorts are better than pants. It's like asking someone to prove a truck is better than a sedan. They're both great, depending on the situation.
Post by: doczinn on November 27, 2006, 04:13:10 PM
Post by: brennankg on November 27, 2006, 05:19:56 PM
The Utilikilt is great. I wore it all the time in San Diego. I have yet to wear it since we've gotten to Texas (not sure if it'll get me arrested here).
B.
Post by: Harold Tuttle on November 27, 2006, 05:37:07 PM
Its a custom Predator Camo patterned one.
My sporan is a +3 ball deflector
Post by: brennankg on November 27, 2006, 05:42:13 PM
i wear a Pittsburgh Kilt when i play paintball
Its a custom Predator Camo patterned one.
My sporan is a +3 ball deflector
Its a custom Predator Camo patterned one.
My sporan is a +3 ball deflector
Are you part of the Stealth Possums team?
I played a scenario game with those kilt-wearing maniacs a few years ago.
Excellent guys.
B.