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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: K Frame on April 15, 2016, 07:45:03 AM
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Ohio State is apparently the first university to show some testicular fortitude in dealing with these whiny little aholes.
They presented a list of demand, wanting the University's financial and investment portfolios opened to their inspection, with a related demand that the University provide experts to help the students understand the information... :facepalm:
But this video is fantastic. Essentially an admin rep telling the students who are occupying the admin building:
1. The president of the University won't meet with you and won't accept your list of demands. FOAD.
2. Leave the building or you'll be arrested and expelled. FOAD.
Listening to some of the comments from the students are just funny as hell...
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/04/13/ohio-state-shuts-down-student-occupation-after-arrests-expulsion-threatened/
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:rofl:
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My alma mater. I'm so proud!
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You know, at some of the really small colleges, I can understand why the universities don't just boot them right away. School of 5,000 students, and you get 150 protesting, that's 2% of your students. I'd say that's acceptable losses, but that's me. And probably a lot of you.
At Ohio State, it's a different ball game. There, 150 students is 0.3% of the student body. The university has billions in endowments and holdings. It probably makes more in licensed product sales than it does in tuition. They can tell these 150 kids to go home, actually stand by that, and not even blink a financial eye at the loss of tuition dollars.
Now, on for a rant. On one hand, I'm glad to see young people care about more than themselves, and who want a better world. But in cases like this, I'm wondering WTF. School investments make money. Money that is used to build better facilities, pay staff and faculty, and in the long run give students a better life at a lower cost. Short of the school investing in child slave labor, maybe these students should get over themselves and actually worry about, of I don't know, going to class. And, I also gotta say that I find it highly amusing that in addition to demanding financial records (which are public records under Ohio law...it is a public university), the idea that they are demanding the school pay them an expert to help them understand it all is funny as hell. Can't walk their sorry butts over to the business school and find a student to help them read an investment portfolio? Or maybe the students in the business school are too busy actually going to class to worry about this crap.
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Did it ever occur to anyone that these "affairs" (and other protests) are started by professional provocateurs who are, essentially, "training" the dupe groups for bigger and better disruptive efforts?
Or is that just my geriatric paranoia showing?
Heh-heh-hehhhh.
I believe they are politely called "community organizers."
Heh-heh-hehhhh again.
I'm not signing this one so nobody will know who posted it.
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I have an Idea. Ohio State leaves the B1G, and joins the SEC, and Mizzou leaves the SEC, and joins the B1G. It's a win/win.
In seriousness, this is how campus blackmail should be handled. I hope university admins around the country went to school on this approach, and adopt it in its entirety.
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That's great! I actually think more University admins (even the very liberal ones) want to do this, but they don't want to be first. Maybe if a few more admins with some fortitude stand up, it will begin a big pushback.
Boomhauer should be happy re: Caterpillar. :laugh:
What the hell did Caterpillar do wrong anyway? I know the kids want out of all mainstream energy providers, but if they want out of Cat, shouldn't they want out of all vehicle manufacturers? Plus how do they think the building they were standing in was built?
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The money quote from the article: "We will give you the opportunity to go to jail for your beliefs." Ohio State Vice President Jay Kasey
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We will give you the opportunity to go to jail for your beliefs.
Damn it, I forgot to call that one out! I just about choked on my iced tea when he dropped that!
But, thinking about this even more, I'm offended, no, MORTIFIED, that the administration didn't immediately knuckle in to all of their demands and flagellate themselves on the Campus Green at Dawn, Noon, and Dusk in penance.
What has this world come to...
I'm just wondering, though, how much of this reaction is driven by the legacy of the 1970 riots at OSU?
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...with a related demand that the University provide experts to help the students understand the information... :facepalm:
I hope he recommended them to the Business School's course catalog.
The money quote from the article: "We will give you the opportunity to go to jail for your beliefs." Ohio State Vice President Jay Kasey
I also like the part where he gave the University's list of demands.
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Land grant schools tend be a little more tough love then the liberal arts schools.
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"I also like the part where he gave the University's list of demands."
Those can be summarized as FOAD.
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They presented a list of demand, wanting the University's financial and investment portfolios opened to their inspection,
Uh...it's a state university; isn't most of that stuff pretty easily available anyway?
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Of course it is. But, that would like, mean, them having to take time out of their hugely important social warrior activities to actually go find it, and that's just absolutely unreasonable!
And besides, if the University provides it, the widdle fwowers can then claim that the University wasn't being forthcoming OR truthful, which means that they can call down MYSTIC SOCIAL WARRIOR JUSTICE!
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Uh...it's a state university; isn't most of that stuff pretty easily available anyway?
Which leads into the students' potential job skills. I'm not sure I'd want to hire someone that can't/won't do a simple Google search, or at worst research for and submit the appropriate paperwork to access the data. I wonder if their moms come to school to cut the food on their plates for them?
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JESUS! YOU FREAKS DON'T UNDERSTAND!
A job where you actually can understand finance is a microaggression and is all hurty!
My advanced degree in the Sexual Ethnographics of Peruvian Throat Singing is socially just!
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It's not just that they are asking for something that is public record and the other BS demands, it's that they don't go through the proper channels.
They go straight from THIS IS WHAT WE WANT NOW to staging physical protests, without even giving the people they are demanding these things a chance to know what they are demanding, much less think about it or respond. The protesters don't even give enough time to say "We'll look this over and get back to you." *
And that's what makes me want to start hitting (not that everything else they do doesn't make me want to smack them) They don't want to actually *DO* anything. They just want to be disruptive and stupid.
I also applaud the university for saying "GTFO or go to jail" but wish they had been more firm about it. I think the administrator gave them too much credit for "wanting to start a dialogue." Those brats don't want a dialogue. They don't even know what dialogue is.
*I based this assumption on the fact that the president of the university didn't even have a copy of the demands. For something to escalate to the point of a sit in and the president of the place doesn't know about it means those brats never bothered to go through proper channels or were legitimately shut down very early in the process.
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It's not just that they are asking for something that is public record and the other BS demands, it's that they don't go through the proper channels.
They go straight from THIS IS WHAT WE WANT NOW to staging physical protests, without even giving the people they are demanding these things a chance to know what they are demanding, much less think about it or respond. The protesters don't even give enough time to say "We'll look this over and get back to you." *
And that's what makes me want to start hitting (not that everything else they do doesn't make me want to smack them) They don't want to actually *DO* anything. They just want to be disruptive and stupid.
I also applaud the university for saying "GTFO or go to jail" but wish they had been more firm about it. I think the administrator gave them too much credit for "wanting to start a dialogue." Those brats don't want a dialogue. They don't even know what dialogue is.
*I based this assumption on the fact that the president of the university didn't even have a copy of the demands. For something to escalate to the point of a sit in and the president of the place doesn't know about it means those brats never bothered to go through proper channels or were legitimately shut down very early in the process.
The article also had this to say:
officials say they have talked many times with the leaders of the groups, and that the protesters just don't like the answer.
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The article also had this to say:
Missed it. I skimmed the article to get to the video.
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I see on the third page it mentions that they prevented food from being brought in to feed the protestors. I like that move also.
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Ohio State probably turns away qualified students every year because they don't have room. I really doubt a expelling a few morons will hurt them.
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Ohio State probably turns away qualified students every year because they don't have room. I really doubt a expelling a few morons will hurt them.
I was kind of wishing he'd mention that.
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I see on the third page it mentions that they prevented food from being brought in to feed the protestors. I like that move also.
That's the claim. No one from the administration either admitted to it or denied so, so it's just one protestor, and lord knows that they would NEVER lie, right?
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so it's just one protestor, and lord knows that they would NEVER lie, right?
Of course, why would they need to lie? They have righteousness on their side and that makes their word above reproach, like the songs of angels. ;)
bob
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Of course, why would they need to lie? They have righteousness on their side and that makes their word above reproach, like the songs of angels. ;)
bob
Moore Koolaide, Bob?
:rofl:
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I'll be impressed when the school administration at least threatens to use the Kent State option....
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Of course, why would they need to lie? They have righteousness on their side and that makes their word above reproach, like the songs of angels. ;)
Wasn't Satan an angel ...?
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And if they did lie, it's ok because it's for their cause.
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Missed it. I skimmed the article to get to the video.
THERE'S A VIDEO?! :O :laugh: :laugh:
I missed the part where there were two more pages to the article, so I did not see the video. What sweet delicious goodness that was!
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the primary reason these confrontations are so successful, is that many in university administration, are sympathetic to the demands of the radical, liberal students and their handlers.
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the primary reason these confrontations are so successful, is that many in university administration, are sympathetic to the demands of the radical, liberal students and their handlers.
Probably true too often.
And I still think that no matter how ridiculous the "demands," the handlers are semi-pro provocateurs training them for bigger and better disruptions in the future.
Terry, 230RN
REF:
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=51404.msg1047986#msg1047986
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What the hell did Caterpillar do wrong anyway? I know the kids want out of all mainstream energy providers, but if they want out of Cat, shouldn't they want out of all vehicle manufacturers? Plus how do they think the building they were standing in was built?
Evil machines that rip apart Gaia. Oh, and probably related to the anti-Israeli BDS movement, they don't like the uparmored D8 Rachel Corrie special edition.
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Probably true too often.
And I still think that no matter how ridiculous the "demands," the handlers are semi-pro provocateurs training them for bigger and better disruptions in the future.
Aren't the professors handling that?
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Aren't the professors handling that?
Not well enough, all the big lefty protests from Ferguson and BLM to Occupy had huge money behind them and paid organizers brought in. The rank and file protestors and the reporters who cover them are properly termed as useful idiots.