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Title: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Ben on May 13, 2016, 06:12:34 PM
This was interesting. Old fella enters a Quaker Oats recipe contest and sends in a handwritten recipe. Quaker Oats sent him a rejection letter. If they stipulated electronically submitted copies only (for storage and not having to scan hardcopies),  I would understand why the handwritten submission doesn't fly. However it sounds like they accepted hardcopies, so what's the difference?

Doesn't sound like the guy cares much one way or the other or is making a big stink about it, but it did kind of hit me, as we talk about changing times around here, that "handwriting vs typed on a computer" is almost analogous to "cash vs electronic payments".  Society is really pushing out both of the formers for the latters.

I'm sure that I, in my 50's, have a different perspective on it than some of you in your 30's and younger. :)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/elderly-mans-quaker-oats-contest-submission-rejected-because-it-s-hand-written.html?intcmp=hpbt4

Title: Re:
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 13, 2016, 06:24:25 PM
Maybe some of their Millennial workers can't read unless it's typed

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Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 13, 2016, 07:17:41 PM
Maybe some of their Millennial workers can't read unless it's typed

More likely they didn't want to be subjected to illegible penmanship.

Or is it perhaps because they can automatically digitize a typed recipe, but would have to digitize the hand-written one, uh, by hand?
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Scout26 on May 13, 2016, 07:25:33 PM
Or none of the millennials could read his cursive handwriting to type it in....
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Ben on May 13, 2016, 07:29:06 PM
Or none of the millennials could read his cursive handwriting to type it in....

Sad, since from the image, his cursive is quite legible. No prescription writing physician he.  :laugh:
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 13, 2016, 07:33:14 PM
 :facepalm:

The Millennials as useless hipster idiots trope is wearing thin. Speaking of hipsters, there's probably a whole hipster sub-culture of DIY (hand-written) letter-writing, calligraphy, etc.
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Ben on May 13, 2016, 07:46:35 PM
:facepalm:

The Millennials as useless hipster idiots trope is wearing thin. Speaking of hipsters, there's probably a whole hipster sub-culture of DIY (hand-written) letter-writing, calligraphy, etc.

How about millennials who can't figure out what lane to drive in? Because I don't see that getting old at all. :)
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on May 13, 2016, 07:50:34 PM
How about millennials who can't figure out what lane to drive in? Because I don't see that getting old at all. :)

oh snap
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: dm1333 on May 13, 2016, 08:20:01 PM
How about millennials who can't figure out what lane to drive in? Because I don't see that getting old at all. :)

Here in west Michigan everybody knows what lane to drive in.  Far left, three feet behind the car in front of you, 80 MPH.  When your exit comes up just cut across all the traffic and dive off into the off ramp!   ;)
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 13, 2016, 10:05:18 PM
How about millennials who can't figure out what lane to drive in? Because I don't see that getting old at all. :)


It got old as soon as he started doing it.
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: French G. on May 13, 2016, 11:13:28 PM
How about millennials who can't figure out what lane to drive in? Because I don't see that getting old at all. :)

I was in a mood today, not mad, but pretty on the pipe for some reason. I also logged 350 miles total before/after my workday. I handled a few left lane parkers rather less than gently. And I feel good about that.  >:D
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: 230RN on May 14, 2016, 12:32:29 AM
I had to laugh at this comment:

Quote
keizan
2 hours ago

Maybe customers of Quaker Oats who still know how to write by hand should deluge them with letters of complaint. I could also recommend a few brands of much better oatmeal for Mr. Smith to try.

I can write in cursive, and I can certainly read it (Mr. Smith's hand is pretty good) but I prefer block lettering.  Learned it in drafting class in high school when we used T-squares and triangles.
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: brimic on May 14, 2016, 08:49:39 AM
Or none of the millennials could read his cursive handwriting to type it in....

To be fair, millennials probably didn't get to study handwriting or cursive in school, cursive is archaic and may have been done away with in favor of newer and more exciting curriculum like transgender victim studies.  :old:
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: MillCreek on May 14, 2016, 09:21:49 AM
My cursive handwriting is terrible, and I learned to print in block capitals back when I was being taught to do medical charting and in my chemistry lab notebooks.  Ms. MillCreek has that beautiful female teacher cursive handwriting, and in her school district, they still teach cursive at the elementary grade levels.
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: RevDisk on May 14, 2016, 10:00:52 AM
To be fair, millennials probably didn't get to study handwriting or cursive in school, cursive is archaic and may have been done away with in favor of newer and more exciting curriculum like transgender victim studies.  :old:

As bad as Millennials may or may not be, there is one indisputable fact. They are not the generation that produced hippies, the foulest curse on humanity yet achieved. Evil as the communists were, they at least build some things, contributed some things to science and cratered hard enough to proof communism was a dismal failure.

There's no way to wash off the shame of being the generation that plagued the world with hippies.

 [popcorn]
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: brimic on May 14, 2016, 10:21:01 AM
As bad as Millennials may or may not be, there is one indisputable fact. They are not the generation that produced hippies, the foulest curse on humanity yet achieved. Evil as the communists were, they at least build some things, contributed some things to science and cratered hard enough to proof communism was a dismal failure.

There's no way to wash off the shame of being the generation that plagued the world with hippies.

 [popcorn]

Well, there are hipsters now, which are almost as bad, and before the hippies, there were the zoot suiters, and before them, there was ???
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: 230RN on May 14, 2016, 11:12:05 AM
^  Jitterbuggers?
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on May 14, 2016, 11:31:01 AM
Well, there are hipsters now, which are almost as bad, and before the hippies, there were the zoot suiters, and before them, there was ???

people who worked for a living because there wasn't much free time for youthful "rebellion"*.













*I quoted rebellion, because the millennial SJW seem to be awfully unclear as to what rebellion actually is.
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Ben on May 14, 2016, 01:04:02 PM
there were the zoot suiters,

Jackson!

https://youtu.be/8NdOcetZMxg
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: 230RN on May 16, 2016, 09:00:50 AM
Ah, the exuberance of youth.  Jitterbugging is fun to watch, though.

https://youtu.be/pc0hr0ih35k

I myself can't dance worth a toot, and I was limited to the standard box step.

This worked out well for me on various dates, but I had to warn the girl that we were just going to do a box step.  

Nevertheless, my Mom taught me how to lead, and for some reason, the girls enjoyed it, sometimes commenting that I was a good leader.  Mmmm, OK, but it's just suggestions to move  by subtle pressures.  Like riding a horse.

But generally, any complex physical variations were a world apart from my ken and it's beyond me how they can remember all the moves, even in ballroom dancing.  I know there's a method of choreographic notation using stick figures, but how they can remember them in a long routine is beyond my little brain.  Oh, I forgot.  I could do the polka, too.

Not a polka, but this just popped up in my brain.  Now it's going to be an earworm all day long....

One, two three, four o'clock rock.
Five, six. seven, eight o'clock rock.
Nine, ten, eleven, twelve o'clock rock,
We're gonna rock around the clock tonight.
We're gonna rock, rock, rock 'til broad daylight...

https://youtu.be/ZgdufzXvjqw

Ah, skirts aswirl,
A petticoated girl,
Capri pants clinging
As everyone's swinging.
And my jeans are too tight,
Round my loins from the sight.
 :rofl: :old:

Ah, the exuberance of youth.

Terry, 230RN

REF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zorn_Cachucha.jpg
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: freakazoid on May 16, 2016, 09:34:58 AM
Loosley based on the handwritten vs typed, I sort of recently read an article that talked about H.P Lovecraft when he would send in letters to the editor talking down about some other author, and there was a response from some farmer. What was interesting was that the farmer apoligized for not writing in ink because a pencil was all he had. Was it considered impolite or low class or something to write in pencil back then or something?
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: 230RN on May 16, 2016, 09:44:21 AM
^ I don't know, but John Steinbeck wrote most of his novels in longhand (cursive) with a Capitol #2 pencil, on yellow legal pads.   He even had one of the first electric pencil sharpeners !

Sample of his cursive from one of his diaries:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F65.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mb2jn4Tkwi1qz6f4b.jpg&hash=8fefbbbc8636d27ac1a0d13a8e30baa438bd26c7)

Terry, 230RN

Image courtesy of
http://tumblr.austinkleon.com/post/32462339668
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Ben on May 16, 2016, 10:11:59 AM
Was it considered impolite or low class or something to write in pencil back then or something?

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Ignatius opened “The Journal of a Working Boy” to the first unused sheet of Blue Horse looseleaf filler, officiously snapping the point of his ballpoint pen forward. The point of the Levy Pants pen did not catch on the first snap and slipped back into the plastic cylinder. Ignatius snapped more vigorously, but again the point slid disobediently back out of sight. Cracking the pen furiously on the edge of his desk, Ignatius picked up one of the Venus Medalist pencils lying on the floor. He probed the wax in his ears with the pencil and began to concentrate, listening to the sounds of his mother’s preparations for an evening at the bowling alley.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fic.pics.livejournal.com%2Finverarity%2F8886283%2F71886%2F71886_600.jpg&hash=31704511c5405106a5aa36d8ac898912471b0098)
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: MechAg94 on May 16, 2016, 11:25:15 AM
I am curious:  Was that the only hand written entry they rejected?  Did they receive any others?  If it was the only one, it seems silly to reject it.  If they have a history of illegible entries, I can understand a bit more.
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 16, 2016, 11:49:31 AM
Evil as the communists were, they at least build some things, contributed some things to science and cratered hard enough to proof communism was a dismal failure.

Wait ...

If they proved so conclusively that communism was a dismal failure, how do you explain Obama, Hillary, and Bernie?
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: MechAg94 on May 16, 2016, 12:26:59 PM
Wait ...

If they proved so conclusively that communism was a dismal failure, how do you explain Obama, Hillary, and Bernie?
They think the right people weren't in charge of course. 

Also, it did work from their perspective.  The leaders of the movement got rich and lived pretty well off.
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on May 16, 2016, 01:16:45 PM
Loosley based on the handwritten vs typed, I sort of recently read an article that talked about H.P Lovecraft when he would send in letters to the editor talking down about some other author, and there was a response from some farmer. What was interesting was that the farmer apoligized for not writing in ink because a pencil was all he had. Was it considered impolite or low class or something to write in pencil back then or something?

Pencil would have been for the school room, rough drafts or private papers (not meant to be seen by others) Correspondence, official papers and other written documents were done in ink.

Compare it today to handing in a handwritten resume on lined notebook paper verses a printed one. The hand written one would get you some odd looks and may be taken as a sign of being lazy or uneducated.

Plus, if you think about it, ink on paper is much more legible, especially over time, then pencil, which is more likely to smear or get rubbed away.
Title: Re: No Handwriting Allowed
Post by: freakazoid on May 17, 2016, 07:37:18 AM
Found the letter I was talking about, http://www.cracked.com/article_23906_lovecraft-was-troll-6-insane-celebrity-correspondences_p5.html