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Title: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 24, 2016, 05:00:17 PM

I'm betting most of you have already seen this horsecrap.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/24/va-secretary-facing-bipartisan-firestorm-over-disney-comments.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/24/va-secretary-facing-bipartisan-firestorm-over-disney-comments.html)

Enough is enough.
This *expletive deleted*it has to stop.
This sorry excuse for a human being needs to be immediately removed from his position. The man is not fit to empty bedpans at a VA hospital.

 
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: brimic on May 24, 2016, 05:10:48 PM
Obama appointee?

Google 'VA whistleblower' -its absolutely shocking how much corruption there is in the VA system.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 24, 2016, 05:26:42 PM
It seems the TSA head was just fired. That might be a good start for this fellow.

I just heard that Trump has a plan to "reform" the VA. If he wants to get re-elected (or maybe just elected) he should promise to do away with VA-run hospitals entirely. (And then abolish the TSA, outright.)
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: BobR on May 24, 2016, 06:07:51 PM
You can believe Bob, he has his ICARE pin on.

http://www.va.gov/icare/


bob
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 24, 2016, 07:15:08 PM
Obama appointee?

Google 'VA whistleblower' -its absolutely shocking how much corruption there is in the VA system.

Wouldn't it be neat to turn the administration of the VA over to veterans that actually care about their fellow veterans, accompanied by blanket amnesty for beatdowns administered to corrupt former administrators....
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: roo_ster on May 24, 2016, 07:24:09 PM
Wouldn't it be neat to turn the administration of the VA over to veterans that actually care about their fellow veterans, accompanied by blanket amnesty for beatdowns administered to corrupt former administrators....

Very, very few vets in VA administration.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 24, 2016, 10:20:00 PM
I'm betting most of you have already seen this horsecrap.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/24/va-secretary-facing-bipartisan-firestorm-over-disney-comments.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/24/va-secretary-facing-bipartisan-firestorm-over-disney-comments.html)

Enough is enough.
This *expletive deleted*it has to stop.
This sorry excuse for a human being needs to be immediately removed from his position. The man is not fit to empty bedpans at a VA hospital.

Yes, I saw it.

I was thinking that he should be required to get his own medical care through the VA -- and he should get it under a pseudonym, so when he calls for an appointment he gets treated just the same as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: MechAg94 on May 24, 2016, 11:27:49 PM
Very, very few vets in VA administration.
You would think veteran status would be a preferred status on resumes at the VA.  Same with civilians working on military bases and such. 
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: MechAg94 on May 24, 2016, 11:30:17 PM
Why did it take this long and these comments to get politicians mad about the VA's behavior?
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: HankB on May 25, 2016, 12:36:21 AM
I read that many of the falsified reports at the VA were filed by administrators who got bonuses based on their reported good results . . .

I'm waiting for the news that many of them have been criminally charged, prosecuted, convicted, and are going to prison.

I suspect I'll have a long wait . . .  :mad:
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: Scout26 on May 25, 2016, 12:48:11 AM
I read that many of the falsified reports at the VA were filed by administrators who got bonuses based on their reported good results . . .

I'm waiting for the news that many of them have been criminally charged, prosecuted, convicted, and are going to prison.

I suspect I'll have a long wait . . .  :mad:

Yeah, right after they get around to prosecuting Hillary... ;/ ;/ ;/
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: BobR on May 25, 2016, 12:50:37 AM
I read that many of the falsified reports at the VA were filed by administrators who got bonuses based on their reported good results . . .

I'm waiting for the news that many of them have been criminally charged, prosecuted, convicted, and are going to prison.

I suspect I'll have a long wait . . .  :mad:

You're going to need more than a couple of lunches packed if you plan on camping out while waiting. :(

If Sharon Helman (http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-investigations/2016/05/16/former-phoenix-va-director-sharon-helman-sentenced/84452488/) didn't get a vacation to Club Fed then no one will.  :'(

bob
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: wmenorr67 on May 25, 2016, 07:43:31 AM
My experience with the VA is that all they want to do is shove pills down your throat.

I go in with issues with me knee and my "primary" is asking everything and anything else about my health and suggesting one pill or another that I don't want or need.

Then as an after thought asks about the knee and tried to talk me out of an MRI stating if I'm not willing to have surgery then why have one.  I said how can one tell if surgery is needed or not if you don't have the MRI.  Got the MRI in August, within 45 min of having it my "primary" calls to say that all appears normal but will still schedule an appointment with Ortho.  Earliest I saw the Ortho was in January, old school doc, used to cut to see what was wrong because there was not MRI.  First words from his mouth are, you have a torn meniscus, shows me the spot on the film, works with me to have the scope.

If I had the Ortho right after the MRI, I wouldn't have had to burn a week of vacation time to have the surgery because I could have scheduled it for when my company was already going to be closed for the holidays.

My experience is that the specialist in the VA system are quite good and actually care, the general practitioners not so much.  They seem to be there to draw a paycheck and because they couldn't cut it in private practice.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: Jamisjockey on May 25, 2016, 10:09:20 AM
The VA is a scam and a sham.  Do away with the entire system and turn all care over to private providers.  Or just give every disabled vet top notch federal health care for free with no copays.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: Ben on May 25, 2016, 10:12:49 AM
The VA is a scam and a sham.  Do away with the entire system and turn all care over to private providers.  Or just give every disabled vet top notch federal health care for free with no copays.


This. Especially the last sentence, which would probably be a tenth the cost of the current system.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 25, 2016, 10:33:31 AM
Or just give every disabled vet top notch federal health care for free with no copays.


I thought that was reserved for the truly deserving people. Lois Lerner, and the like.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: KD5NRH on May 25, 2016, 10:44:32 AM
The VA is a scam and a sham.  Do away with the entire system and turn all care over to private providers.  Or just give every disabled vet top notch federal health care for free with no copays.

I'd just put in a Constitutional Amendment that says all healthcare plans provided by the Federal government to any military personnel, current and former, must be absolutely equal.  All of them, including the CinC's.  See how fast it gets fixed.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: roo_ster on May 25, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
You would think veteran status would be a preferred status on resumes at the VA.  Same with civilians working on military bases and such. 

Nope.  Nothing counts as much as already being a federal bureaucrat.  I read somewhere that vet preference can help when applying for menial jobs like janitor & th elike.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 25, 2016, 07:52:08 PM
VA "Healthcare" almost killed me two years ago.

I started having blood pressure variations and erratic heartbeat. VA put me on a 3-day recording monitor, which confirmed erratic heartbeat. Primary told me it was nothing to worry about. Condition kept getting worse -- primary kept tinkering with my meds, but never put me in to see a cardiologist.

I finally remembered that I'm a senior citizen and I also have Medicare, so I went to see a real doctor. Took one look at my vitals and said, "If you had come in here a month ago with numbers like those, I would have sent you right to a cardiologist." They got me an appointment -- for 8:00 a.m. the next morning.

The cardiologist said, "If you had come in here a month ago with numbers like those I would have sent you straight to the hospital. Which, by the way, is where you're going." Ten days later I had open heart surgery. Had a follow-up with the surgeon a month after the operation. Didn't know exactly what to say, so I half-jokingly said, "Thank you. I guess you saved my life." He didn't even crack a smile -- "I did," he said.

No thanks to the VA.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: Fitz on May 25, 2016, 08:00:29 PM
My VA primary care doc is so worthless I've stopped going. The psych docs too. "HERE, HAVE SOME PILLS"

"Doc, the pills make things worse. Can't we just do a regularly scheduled therapy session or something?"

" We can get you in about once every month or so... starting in 5 months"

Sigh

The primary care doc likes to tell me that lifting weights is bad for me. The funny thing is he's fat, chain smokes, and is giving me advice like that. "The lifting is going to hurt your back and knees"

"That's funny, I haven't had back pain SINCE I started lifting"

"It's still gonna hurt your back. You should stick to running"

"Doc, the running is what screwed my knees in the first place. They've been better since I stopped doing that"

"It's eventually gonna hurt your knees"



At least if the guy wasn't a walking gastic bypass candidate, i'd listen to what he has to say... but i'm not going to listen to exercise advice from someone unfamiliar with the practice.
Title: Re: Seriously WTF is wrong with this guy- VA Secratary Mc Donald
Post by: dogmush on May 26, 2016, 10:36:23 AM
I'm lucky in that I have good Healthcare through my wife's employer. I don't have to use the VA benefits I earned.

I went a couple times after my third deployment just to get things documented.  I couldn't imagine relying on them for keeping me healthy.