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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Balog on June 27, 2016, 12:52:40 AM
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http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/06/woman-says-she-was-offered-taco-after-all-night-sexual-assault-in-south-texas-jail.html/
Small department, sounds like all of them are equally corrupt. Texas is making ground on New Mexico in terms of cops digitally raping women.
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I am constantly amazed that our country has been so civilized/domesticated/neutered to the point that things like are allowed to stand.
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I am constantly amazed that our country has been so civilized/domesticated/neutered to the point that things like are allowed to stand.
No different now than it's always been. Probably better, really. Cops just do this to whoever is outgroup from the local populace so it's ignored.
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So for something like this, the offending officer was sentenced to seven whole months in jail. I wonder how much of that he'll have to serve -- maybe half?
What a joke. He should have been sentenced to at least seven years, with no chance of parole. And the other cops who didn't stop him or who helped in the cover-up should get equal sentences.
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A few years ago, a cop in my town raped a woman while on duty. He plead guilty to "sex abuse" (misdemeanor), was sentenced to one year, and served six months.
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And then they wonder why support for the police is eroding, and faith is the courts is in free fall.
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Things like this are why I think we'll see the return of vigilance committees in my lifetime....
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It is still rape, but he didn't actually have intercourse with her (beyond oral sex) if I read that right. The plea deal is on the head of the prosecutor.
I am actually very surprised the video footage survived for something like this. Either they didn't fear consequences or they are stupid.
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Things like this are why I think we'll see the return of vigilance committees in my lifetime....
The thing for me is I think this stuff has been happening all along, we are just better informed. Also, the prevalence of video cameras around law enforcement personnel and buildings means less chance for these things to be swept under the rug or turn into a He Said/She Said issue between a police officer and someone from the wrong side of the tracks.
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The thing for me is I think this stuff has been happening all along, we are just better informed. Also, the prevalence of video cameras around law enforcement personnel and buildings means less chance for these things to be swept under the rug or turn into a He Said/She Said issue between a police officer and someone from the wrong side of the tracks.
I think so as well. We probably have about the best behaved police forces in history, but Seeker still has a point in that perception is important.
I've also seen enough that I've become convinced that it's less that we have a problem with corrupt police officers than we do with corrupt police departments.
Basically, I've heard a lot of complaining that ALL police are corrupt because they're not stopping the ones committing corrupt actions. I've become convinced that 90% of the time, the police departments ARE cracking down on this stuff, ejecting unsuitable police offers as they're found. But you have a few departments that accept and welcome such. They're the ones that hire unsuitable people, retain them, and even corrupt the marginal types they hire. I'm reminded of the saying that one bad apple spoils the bunch - so you have a lot of bunches that are all fine, and a few barrels that are full of rotten ones.
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"Peralez resigned from the La Joya Police Department a week after the incident and eventually pleaded guilty to official oppression and violating the civil rights of a person in custody, The Monitor in McAllen reported. He was sentenced to seven months in jail."
Unshocking, he got a light slap on the wrists. I wouldn't be shocked if those were misdemeanor charges rather than felonies. That likely wouldn't put him on the sex offender lists to keep him away from jobs where he could have opportunities to abuse or rape other folks.
That it happens is not the bad part. As other folks have mentioned, it's finally being discussed in the open rather than "swept under the rug". The bad part is when the offender gets a pitifully light sentence that constitutes an obvious violation of justice. I get that prosecutors and police are two sides of the same coin, and while theoretically there should be separation, it's not gonna happen. If we all had the intelligence of a radish, there should be a separate system for handling government employees that isn't part of a rigged system. Good luck keeping it honest, but then again, we don't have an honest system here either.
If the guy wasn't a cop and he did this stuff in a van instead of a prison cell, he would have gotten seven years. Government employee? Seven months.
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"Peralez resigned from the La Joya Police Department a week after the incident and eventually pleaded guilty to official oppression and violating the civil rights of a person in custody, The Monitor in McAllen reported. He was sentenced to seven months in jail."
Unshocking, he got a light slap on the wrists. I wouldn't be shocked if those were misdemeanor charges rather than felonies. That likely wouldn't put him on the sex offender lists to keep him away from jobs where he could have opportunities to abuse or rape other folks.
That it happens is not the bad part. As other folks have mentioned, it's finally being discussed in the open rather than "swept under the rug". The bad part is when the offender gets a pitifully light sentence that constitutes an obvious violation of justice. I get that prosecutors and police are two sides of the same coin, and while theoretically there should be separation, it's not gonna happen. If we all had the intelligence of a radish, there should be a separate system for handling government employees that isn't part of a rigged system. Good luck keeping it honest, but then again, we don't have an honest system here either.
If the guy wasn't a cop and he did this stuff in a van instead of a prison cell, he would have gotten seven years. Government employee? Seven months.
Unless he was a swimmer from the judge's old college, then six months would be about right.
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"Peralez resigned from the La Joya Police Department a week after the incident and eventually pleaded guilty to official oppression and violating the civil rights of a person in custody, The Monitor in McAllen reported. He was sentenced to seven months in jail."
Unshocking, he got a light slap on the wrists. I wouldn't be shocked if those were misdemeanor charges rather than felonies. That likely wouldn't put him on the sex offender lists to keep him away from jobs where he could have opportunities to abuse or rape other folks.
That it happens is not the bad part. As other folks have mentioned, it's finally being discussed in the open rather than "swept under the rug". The bad part is when the offender gets a pitifully light sentence that constitutes an obvious violation of justice. I get that prosecutors and police are two sides of the same coin, and while theoretically there should be separation, it's not gonna happen. If we all had the intelligence of a radish, there should be a separate system for handling government employees that isn't part of a rigged system. Good luck keeping it honest, but then again, we don't have an honest system here either.
If the guy wasn't a cop and he did this stuff in a van instead of a prison cell, he would have gotten seven years. Government employee? Seven months.
The Texas Rangers is the separate group for the investigation which happened. It sounds like separate prosecutors and judges might be warranted.
I would be curious what the average conviction was for sexual assault short of actual intercourse.
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/ex-cop-heads-to-trial-over-womens-bodies-found-in-suitcases-b99657756z1-366416161.html
This prize lived about two blocks away from me.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/steven-zelich-suspect-in-suitcase-bodies-case-has-checkered-past-b99309158z1-267276601.html
And it turns out he was allowed to "resign" from the WAPD in 2001. The "lap dance" incident, was really a prostitute he tried to handcuff/restrain.
Weird thing is, from about 2012 to about 2014 or so, we'd see a WAPD cruiser parked outside his apartment every few days. So often my wife and I thought a small unmarked business next door to the four-unit apartment was a police sub-station. The city has had a few stuck in various places around West Allis over the years do do paperwork or whatever.
My suspicion is that he either had a friend or friends still in the department who'd stop by to chew the fat with him, or they were actually visiting to keep tabs on him, or some sort of unofficial probation, because they knew he was a "creeper" type. However, either way, did a WAPD officer or officers visit him when he had a woman's body in his refrigerator and/or a suitcase?
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I think so as well. We probably have about the best behaved police forces in history, but Seeker still has a point in that perception is important.
I've also seen enough that I've become convinced that it's less that we have a problem with corrupt police officers than we do with corrupt police departments.
Basically, I've heard a lot of complaining that ALL police are corrupt because they're not stopping the ones committing corrupt actions. I've become convinced that 90% of the time, the police departments ARE cracking down on this stuff, ejecting unsuitable police offers as they're found. But you have a few departments that accept and welcome such. They're the ones that hire unsuitable people, retain them, and even corrupt the marginal types they hire. I'm reminded of the saying that one bad apple spoils the bunch - so you have a lot of bunches that are all fine, and a few barrels that are full of rotten ones.
some are desperate for anyone with a pulse Norfolk Virginia if you haven't smoked pot in the last 90 days you qualify to be a cop
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The Texas Rangers is the separate group for the investigation which happened. It sounds like separate prosecutors and judges might be warranted.
I would be curious what the average conviction was for sexual assault short of actual intercourse.
About six months
Doing it using a position of authority ought be worth more
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/ex-cop-heads-to-trial-over-womens-bodies-found-in-suitcases-b99657756z1-366416161.html
This prize lived about two blocks away from me.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/steven-zelich-suspect-in-suitcase-bodies-case-has-checkered-past-b99309158z1-267276601.html
And it turns out he was allowed to "resign" from the WAPD in 2001. The "lap dance" incident, was really a prostitute he tried to handcuff/restrain.
Weird thing is, from about 2012 to about 2014 or so, we'd see a WAPD cruiser parked outside his apartment every few days. So often my wife and I thought a small unmarked business next door to the four-unit apartment was a police sub-station. The city has had a few stuck in various places around West Allis over the years do do paperwork or whatever.
My suspicion is that he either had a friend or friends still in the department who'd stop by to chew the fat with him, or they were actually visiting to keep tabs on him, or some sort of unofficial probation, because they knew he was a "creeper" type. However, either way, did a WAPD officer or officers visit him when he had a woman's body in his refrigerator and/or a suitcase?
Or he had a buddy on the force who got off on dead girls as much as he did, and you were witnessing their daily circle jerk.
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It isn't even just this serious stuff though. I've had incidents with officers that didn't involve rape, but should have not happened. I'll never forget getting pulled over in New Jersey leaving a concert. I had been in traffic moving a couple miles per hour for miles with officers directing traffic. Right as I got out of that mess I was pulled over. The officer says to me someone wants you real bad back there. They had me on the side of the rode for almost two hours when finally he comes over and says you can go, you'll get a ticket in the mail. I ask what the ticket will be for and why was I pulled over. He immediately threatened me with arrest and a night in jail if I didn't leave. I have never trusted a cop again. Never got that ticket in the mail. This kind of crap happens every day all over the country. Our "justice" system doesn't allow for officers, prosecutors or judges to be held responsible for bad acts, that leads to bad behavior and them not feeling they will ever actually be held responsible or prosecuted for their actions. Yet we wonder why these things (including more serious than my experience like these rapes) happen.
Same thing when officers arrest people for crimes that don't exist, hasn't happened to me although there have been some threats by officers; but I'm friendly with more than one person arrested in PA for open carry or claiming brandishing when the officer knew open carry was legal and wanted to get one over on someone that was open carrying. If I'm required to know the law and ignorance isn't an excuse, then it shouldn't be an excuse for an officer to "mistakenly" arrest someone either.
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I think I need to take a serious break from the daily news and reading about this kind of crap.
In recent weeks my state of mind has pretty well settled on "screw it let the *expletive deleted*it burn".