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Title: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: Balog on June 28, 2016, 07:21:02 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-benghazi-lie-in-black-and-white/article/2003058

Disgusting.
Title: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: 230RN on June 29, 2016, 08:03:54 PM
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Title: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: Ben on June 29, 2016, 10:12:57 PM
Slight thread veer. I don't know much about the sap whose video Clinton blamed everything on. Don't know if he's a US citizen, hates America, loves America, or what. However given the truth has come out in documentation, he was not mistakenly blamed for what happened. He was a target. The government can no longer say, "We were mistaken." They absolutely knew he was innocent, yet they kept blaming him, arrested him, and ruined his life.

While the gov can easily weasel out by saying "Oh, sorry, our bad" when there is no documentation to prove otherwise, they can't do so here anymore. So why isn't this guy suing the US government for a bajillion dollars?
Title: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 30, 2016, 12:29:18 AM
He probably doesn't want to meet Vince Foster ...
Title: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: zxcvbob on June 30, 2016, 01:43:05 AM
While the gov can easily weasel out by saying "Oh, sorry, our bad" when there is no documentation to prove otherwise, they can't do so here anymore. So why isn't this guy suing the US government for a bajillion dollars?

It's tough to sue the king in the king's court.  He'd have better luck carrying out some kind of act of vengeance, since justice is impossible.

+1 on the Vince Foster comment.
Title: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: makattak on June 30, 2016, 09:56:33 AM
Slight thread veer. I don't know much about the sap whose video Clinton blamed everything on. Don't know if he's a US citizen, hates America, loves America, or what. However given the truth has come out in documentation, he was not mistakenly blamed for what happened. He was a target. The government can no longer say, "We were mistaken." They absolutely knew he was innocent, yet they kept blaming him, arrested him, and ruined his life.

While the gov can easily weasel out by saying "Oh, sorry, our bad" when there is no documentation to prove otherwise, they can't do so here anymore. So why isn't this guy suing the US government for a bajillion dollars?

Because he was in violation of a court order that preceded the blame.

It's part of that "five felonies a day" rule. They didn't arrest him for the video, they arrested him because he was under orders as part of his probation not to use the internet. (IIRC)

I hate to quote Ayn Rand, but:

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“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”
Title: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: Ben on June 30, 2016, 10:04:13 AM
Because he was in violation of a court order that preceded the blame.

It's part of that "five felonies a day" rule. They didn't arrest him for the video, they arrested him because he was under orders as part of his probation not to use the internet. (IIRC)



Ah, I remember that now. Bob is right - justice is impossible. Also the Rand quote bears repeating. This is a good example.
Title: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: slugcatcher on June 30, 2016, 11:31:44 AM
Not a single elected or appointed official will ever see a day in jail for any of this.  They will keep their jobs, pensions, benefits, and power.
Title: Re: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: seeker_two on June 30, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
Not a single elected or appointed official will ever see a day in jail for any of this.  They will keep their jobs, pensions, benefits, and power.
It's the American Way.....
Title: Re: Benghazi timeline of public v private statements
Post by: Scout26 on July 01, 2016, 06:47:08 PM
I wonder whatever happened to the Video Production guy?

Ahhhhh, found it.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula
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On 27 September 2012, U.S. federal authorities arrested Nakoula in Los Angeles charging eight counts of probation violation.[39][46] Prosecutors alleged that some of the violations included making false statements regarding his role in the film and his use of the alias "Sam Bacile".[5] None of the charges relate to his use of the internet.[39] Following a hearing before a judge, Nakoula was ordered to jail without bail, with the judge citing probation violations including lying to probation officials, "danger to the community" and "lack of trust in the defendant".[4] On 7 November, he pleaded guilty to four of the charges against him in an apparent plea bargain. He was subsequently sentenced to a year in federal prison and four years of supervised release.

As of November 2015, Nakoula was reportedly living at a Los Angeles homeless shelter and working part-time at a pizza parlor.