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Title: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: MillCreek on July 14, 2016, 09:00:26 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/upshot/so-many-research-scientists-so-few-openings-as-professors.html?hpw&rref=upshot&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0

Not find a tenure-track research professor position, it seems.
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: MechAg94 on July 14, 2016, 09:14:07 AM
Sounds like nothing new really. 
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: zxcvbob on July 14, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/upshot/so-many-research-scientists-so-few-openings-as-professors.html?hpw&rref=upshot&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0

Not find a tenure-track research professor position, it seems.


And yet we are still importing scientists from India on H1-B visas.  People with impeccable academic credentials who couldn't research their way out of a wet paper bag.  (I see it with engineers and programmers; I'm extrapolating to scientists)
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: Fly320s on July 14, 2016, 09:19:33 AM
McD's is hiring.
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: zxcvbob on July 14, 2016, 09:23:46 AM
McD's is hiring.

The one on Dorsett?  Where Charlene works? :D

I think this is the one:  https://www.facebook.com/McDonalds-at-12680-Dorsett-Rd-116223031738388/ 
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: slugcatcher on July 14, 2016, 09:25:45 AM
Maybe they should try the private sector.
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: HankB on July 14, 2016, 11:05:25 AM
And yet we are still importing scientists from India on H1-B visas.  People with impeccable academic credentials who couldn't research their way out of a wet paper bag.  (I see it with engineers and programmers; I'm extrapolating to scientists)
That's a fair extrapolation - my employer had a number of H1B visa scientists (mostly physics and chemistry) who are a waste of oxygen. Not all, mind you; some are pretty sharp. But others left a lot to be desired. They mostly came from India and China, with the ones from India frequently displaying a certain arrogance and self-importance which was not merited by their competence or achievements.

As for the article about the wonderful stuff being done in academia . . . sure, SOME great discoveries come out of research done in our institutions of higher learning. But an awful lot of the research ranges from useless to downright silly. There really IS a lot of truth to the old saying "Those who can, DO; those who can't, TEACH."
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: MechAg94 on July 14, 2016, 11:26:32 AM
Except they often teach very little.  Their primary job is bringing in research dollars and publishing.
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: MillCreek on July 14, 2016, 11:43:34 AM
Except they often teach very little.  Their primary job is bringing in research dollars and publishing.

True dat.  I remember working under my principal investigator, and his job and salary were dependent upon how many grant dollars he brought in and how many papers his team published.  I think he may have taught an occasional class, but not much.
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: K Frame on July 14, 2016, 12:13:06 PM
Welcome to McDonald's. Would you care for Solanum tuberosum that have been immersed in energy-enhanced, consumable, organic long-chain hydrocarbons until their albedo has been altered by the Maillard reaction?
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: 230RN on July 14, 2016, 01:03:14 PM
As usual, the bigbangtheorypedia has an entry:

https://youtu.be/w21cmT-T9H8
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: Fly320s on July 14, 2016, 01:25:02 PM
Welcome to McDonald's. Would you care for Solanum tuberosum that have been immersed in energy-enhanced, consumable, organic long-chain hydrocarbons until their albedo has been altered by the Maillard reaction?

Don't forget the granulated sodium chloride.
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: K Frame on July 14, 2016, 02:03:38 PM
Don't forget the granulated sodium chloride.

Nope. Health Sciences PhD. Doesn't do salt. :rofl:
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: dm1333 on July 14, 2016, 05:31:19 PM
As usual, the bigbangtheorypedia has an entry:

https://youtu.be/w21cmT-T9H8

In French?   ;/
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: 230RN on July 14, 2016, 06:24:49 PM
In French?   ;/

My machine brings it up in English audio with French subtitles.

What's up?  Some kind of regional codex mixup?

Or is that a joke which I'm not getting (as usual)?

Terry

Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: grampster on July 14, 2016, 10:34:43 PM
You don't want to know, Terry.  Shudder.
Title: Re: What to do with your shiny new science Ph.D?
Post by: Scout26 on July 15, 2016, 01:14:37 PM
Maybe Terry is a secret Canuckian....