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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: brimic on August 14, 2016, 12:28:42 AM
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http://www.wisn.com/news/1-dead-in-officerinvolved-shooting/41190354?utm_campaign=WISN%2012%20NEWS&utm_medium=FBPAGE&utm_source=Social
*live video in link*
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Is this different from most Saturday nights in MKE?
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Is this different from most Saturday nights in MKE?
Is a normal saturday night plus burning.
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Video from the festivities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpWiV-zLoM&feature=youtu.be
"Beat up every white person!"
(ETA: Governor Walker has activated the National Guard:)
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN10P06W
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I think most people outside of Milwaukee or Wisconsin don't understand just how segregated the city actually is. It's "bad", because it does have sort of a pressure cooker effect, concentrating the problems, and it probably hurts and drags down working people and families just trying to get by. There isn't enough of a "mixed" or even a segregated, but black/upper middle-class area those lifting themselves up and out can go to here. It's "good", because the segregation means that the rest of the area is so livable. The hispanic near south side of Milwaukee is a bit dodgey, elevated property crime etc. but for the most part, it's not hard to live quietly and mind your own business and not have trouble come looking for you there.
The box is the few blocks around the intersection where all the riots and fires took place, and the police shooting happened as well.
Empty white space is rivers, freeways, parkland, schools, commercial/industrial property etc. where people don't "live" or have a residence.
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A guy I work with us from dead center in the ghetto, he's recently bought a house over in Riverwest, vastly better than where he was before...,
It's very interesting listening to his point of view, and he's pretty outspoken.
- alderman and city government is corrupt. He had tried going through the process of opening a corner store with a liquor license, he ended up resorting to trying to grease the palms of his alderman and congresswoman to try to unstall the process.
- complains about the blm 'fools' making his former neighborhood less safe by causing police to step down patrols and arrests.
- complains about the drug dealers that the police leave alone ( see point above).
- complains about how the city and mps screwed his church over on some deal where they wanted to open a charter school.
It's literally like listening to local talk radio issues from an insider's viewpoint.
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I have to drive into work from the nw tomorrow, I'm 1/2 tempted to take fdl ave into town to see the damage, but I think it might be better to wait for the angry buzz in the hive quiet down a bit first.
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They are at it again, police using Bearcats to rescue shooting victim
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The National Guardsman like it when you bring them coffee or soda. Some snacks (aka Pogie bait) is a good idea also.
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Let us ponder one of the linked stories:
http://www.wisn.com/news/forgotten-sour-cream-leads-to-milwaukee-fast-food-shooting/40257076
Authorities say the man returned a short time later, about 12:20 a.m. Monday, and shot at the bullet-proof window and an employee's car. No one was hurt.
If the frickin' Taco Bell has bulletproof windows, that's a hint that the whole place just needs to be nuked.
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Let us ponder one of the linked stories:
http://www.wisn.com/news/forgotten-sour-cream-leads-to-milwaukee-fast-food-shooting/40257076
If the frickin' Taco Bell has bulletproof windows, that's a hint that the whole place just needs to be nuked.
:laugh:
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Wonder how long it will be before we start to see counter-riots of people tired of the city and police allowing rioters to run unhindered?.....
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The National Guardsman like it when you bring them coffee or soda. Some snacks (aka Pogie bait) is a good idea also.
This.
Take them a dozen Monsters or cigarettes and you'll have made lifetime friends.
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Calling out the NG is only a good idea if you actually arm them, give them ammo and then the ROE actually allows the use of the aforementioned items before someone gets hurt.
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Calling out the NG is only a good idea if you actually arm them, give them ammo and then the ROE actually allows the use of the aforementioned items before someone gets hurt.
So instead of sodas and smokes, taking them full mags of 5.56 would get you more brownie points?
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So instead of sodas and smokes, taking them full mags of 5.56 would get you more brownie points?
Possibly but someone might get upset if the wrong ammo was used.
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Calling out the NG is only a good idea if you actually arm them, give them ammo and then the ROE actually allows the use of the aforementioned items before someone gets hurt.
Do they even have bayonets anymore?
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Possibly but someone might get upset if the wrong ammo was used.
"Sir, it wasn't us; it's not issue ammo and we weren't issued any anyway."
Maybe .17HMR in .223 sabots so it really doesn't match.
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NBC anchor guy talking about the "protests" in Milwaukee. Last time I looked it was rioting.
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Do they even have bayonets anymore?
In Chicago during the 1968 riots at the Democratic National Convention, the NG was issued bayonets, ordered to fix bayonets . . . but ordered to leave the sheath on.
Calling out the NG is only a good idea if you actually arm them, give them ammo and then the ROE actually allows the use of the aforementioned items before someone gets hurt.
A former colleague (somewhat older than myself) was once ordered out on riot duty. They were issued rifles, but no ammo. BUT . . . by the second day of mobilization . . . virtually all the troops had ammo.
Officer corps was a bit . . . upset . . . when the mobilization ended and the bandoliers turned in weren't empty any more. >:D
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NBC anchor guy talking about the "protests" in Milwaukee. Last time I looked it was rioting.
Riots are now "mostly peaceful demonstrations." There may be some shootings, some beatings, and a little arson, but aside from that, it's "mostly peaceful."
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My ultra-liberal best friend, who lives in Brookfield, a wealthy suburb in an adjoining county, said it wasn't a riot. It was maybe a hundred or so kids getting wild on a Saturday night.
You heard it here, folks.
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Just give the NG a case of red Rip It's.
I'm sure they already brought their own ammo
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Someone that cares more find the sisters comments. The radio cut out but sounded like she said he was beating the system, he was 23 without a felony conviction. Wow he gets a gold star.
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Same sister that's calling on "protestors" to stop burning their own neighborhood?
"We need our weaves, take this *expletive deleted*it to the suburbs!".
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Too Soon ??
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Too Soon ??
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Never
Just give the NG a case of red Rip It's.
I'm sure they already brought their own ammo
Any Rip Its and not that we will admit to.
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Crew-served belt-fed FTW.
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Crew-served belt-fed FTW.
Ma Deuce or a Mark 19
Things will clear out quickly.
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Same sister that's calling on "protestors" to stop burning their own neighborhood?
"We need our weaves, take this *expletive deleted*it to the suburbs!".
Here's the video of that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpS9yFSkNLs
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Ma Deuce or a Mark 19
Things will clear out quickly.
How hard would it be to get enough OC liquid for a crop duster?
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I still like the idea of just declaring the event to be a job fair.
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I still like the idea of just declaring the event to be a job fair.
"Back-to-School 100% Negative Sales Tax Holiday"
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My ultra-liberal best friend, who lives in Brookfield, a wealthy suburb in an adjoining county, said it wasn't a riot. It was maybe a hundred or so kids getting wild on a Saturday night.
You heard it here, folks.
Well... it is small potatoes to the 60's riots. I'll give your friend that.
But it was still a riot.
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Same sister that's calling on "protestors" to stop burning their own neighborhood?
"We need our weaves, take this *expletive deleted*it to the suburbs!".
They might actually run into hard resistance in the suburbs.
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They might actually run into hard resistance in the suburbs.
Of course, there aren't any weaves in the suburbs....
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How hard would it be to get enough OC liquid for a crop duster?
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter >:D
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For obvious OPSEC and PERSEC reasons I won't get into ANY details of the "how's and why's" but I've got some involvement in a project of sorts that at least in part aims to help out disadvantaged inner-city Milwaukee kids.
Granted, these are by and large the GOOD KIDS, the ones who CARE about themselves and their future, and as far as I know, they have a parent or parents who do too. Otherwise we wouldn't have even been involved with them in the first place, or they with us.
There was some travelling, and scouting locations going on in various downtown parts of Milwaukee for a new phase of this project.
Mind you, these kids are about 13 to 17 years of age. Taking the kids around to various locations, we learned some jaw-dropping things.
They have lived in Milwaukee for their whole lives... 13 to 17 years of it.
They had never seen Lake Michigan or the Lakefront before.
They had never seen or been among Milwaukee's downtown skyscrapers before.
They had never seen or been in the Third Ward (For non Milwaukee peeps, this is the hoidy-toidy gentrified part of the city just south of the Downtown.) And they wondered aloud and asked the adults if all the "old buildings" meant it was another "bad part of town". They had no idea or clue how to recognize the old brick buildings remodeled with new windows and tons of signs for hipster-ville restaurants and art galleries etc.
I suppose there's some cause for concern where some other municipality borders Milwaukee's north side, like Wauwatosa, or Brown Deer, without a choke point like the river or the freeways in the way, but the idea that riots would willfully spill out into the Milwaukee burbs en-masse is a non-starter. At least not at the current level of angst. IMO it would take 10x as much, and an interruption in welfare/benefits to make it happen.
That's not to say we won't see some onesy-twosey incidents, or some more flash mobs at a store or mall etc. But an actual in the street riot with arson outside of Milwaukee's North side isn't going to happen.
If SMART GOOD KIDS from the hood have no idea how to navigate or get around Milwaukee outside their immediate neighborhood... I have a hard time believing the majority of low-lifes actually willing to burn stuff down or throw bricks at cops will. I'm sure there's criminals more along the lines of being "kingpin types" who have cars and are mobile and do "business" in multiple parts around the city, but I don't see those types being willing to risk their "capital" and "assets" just for political/social change, even if expressed in the most negative way possible. Nor are there enough of them.
The professional agitators who might not even be from Milwaukee will be able to go anywhere in the Milwaukee Metro, especially since they already came from afar to get to the Sherman Park neighborhood, but they're going to be all alone without a crowd to hide in, or to do their bidding, if they do.
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They might actually run into hard resistance in the suburbs.
And I have no doubt the feds would step in and slap that *expletive deleted*it down hard and in a hurry.
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Lil long but it shows how they got started
https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/watch-how-the-2016-milwaukee-riots-started-raw-video
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AJ, have to agree.
The numbers of nogoodniks are relatively small, and usually need a focal point to cause real trouble- church or city festival, park, gas station,etc, and use social media to organize and cause small localized chaos. They've been meeting up in Sherman park over the last several weeks, IIRC, and causing trouble(1)
(1) can't confirm if it was Sherman park as Google search on Sherman park shows this last weekend's festivities 10 pages deep.
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And I have no doubt the feds would step in and slap that *expletive deleted*it down hard and in a hurry.
I'm not so sure. The feds don't want to become targets themselves . (they don't think the n!'s are worth it) They will talk a good game but that's it.
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And I have no doubt the feds would step in and slap that *expletive deleted*it down hard and in a hurry.
If it was some sort of organized vigilante exercise, I think you would be right. However, I was picturing rioters spilling into a neighborhood at night with even a few armed homeowners. I don't think they would stick around long. As AJ pointed out, most of those areas are not so close to where they things are happening and transporting hundreds/thousands of angry rioters would be difficult and everyone would see it coming. I haven't heard the Obama's talk about food deserts lately. I think we are seeing why big stores don't want to build in places like that.
If Houston is any example, the suburbs are 15 or 20 miles away. They wouldn't walk there. The rich,wealthy inner city neighborhoods are much closer anyway. I don't think the local govt people would allow that to happen as it would directly affect their supporters.
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I live ~22 miles as the crow flies from downtown, and since I'm in a rural location with relatively little light pollution and on a hill, I can see the MKE skyline from from my house. I figure if the city is glowing orange at night with a lot of smoke, I just won't go into work the next day. :P
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Thank you all for the reminder that my safe needs another battle rifle.
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I live ~22 miles as the crow flies from downtown, and since I'm in a rural location with relatively little light pollution and on a hill, I can see the MKE skyline from from my house. I figure if the city is glowing orange at night with a lot of smoke, I just won't go into work the next day. :P
After mlk was shot we watched smoke rising over dc. Neighbors were prepared
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Thank you all for the reminder that my safe needs another battle rifle.
Thank you all for the reminder that I need to do more reloading for my battle rifles...
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Thank you all for the reminder that my safe needs another battle rifle.
Thank you all for the reminder that I need to do more reloading for my battle rifles...
Come on. We know it's not a reminder. Just an excuse. ;)
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Thank you all for the reminder that I need to do more reloading for my battle rifles...
Mine doesn't. =D =D