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Title: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: Balog on August 14, 2016, 08:53:55 PM
A good look from the inside.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/tea-party-pacs-ideas-death-214164
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: brimic on August 14, 2016, 10:52:04 PM
A very large number of conservatives are keenly aware that their ideological 'revival' was screwed over by the Republican Party. These conservatives, of which I'm one of, want to see the party destroyed and scattered to the 4 winds. Love trump/ hate trump, he most certainly is the murder weapon used to kill the party. It's glorious watching all of the neocons flock to support Hillary, who has always been their ideological fraternal sister. It's too bad Bernie got cheated out of a chance for nomination for his party as he would have forced democrats into openly supporting a socialist.
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: Scout26 on August 14, 2016, 11:33:02 PM
I wouldn't start pounding nails in the Tea Party's coffin just yet.  I think a lot jumped on the Trump Train after being sold out by the Republican party after the 2014 elections.   So when they had a chance to give a big FU to the party, they did.  Granted it was with the wrong candidate, but it's still a long way from dead.   Trump may or may not be the deathknell of the Republican party.  That remains to be seen, but the R's are definitely becoming more and more marginalized.
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: roo_ster on August 15, 2016, 12:16:15 AM
A very large number of conservatives are keenly aware that their ideological 'revival' was screwed over by the Republican Party. These conservatives, of which I'm one of, want to see the party destroyed and scattered to the 4 winds. Love trump/ hate trump, he most certainly is the murder weapon used to kill the party. It's glorious watching all of the neocons flock to support Hillary, who has always been their ideological fraternal sister. It's too bad Bernie got cheated out of a chance for nomination for his party as he would have forced democrats into openly supporting a socialist.

This.  Can't wait for the GOP to Whig out.
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: lee n. field on August 15, 2016, 09:51:31 AM
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In a half decade, the spontaneous uprising that shook official Washington degenerated into a form of pyramid scheme that transferred tens of millions of dollars from rural, poorer Southerners and Midwesterners to bicoastal political operatives.

What began as an organic, policy-driven grass-roots movement was drained of its vitality and resources by national political action committees that dunned the movement’s true believers endlessly for money to support its candidates and causes. The PACs used that money first to enrich themselves and their vendors and then deployed most of the rest to search for more “prospects.” In Tea Party world, that meant mostly older, technologically unsavvy people willing to divulge personal information through “petitions”—which only made them prey to further attempts to lighten their wallets for what they believed was a good cause. While the solicitations continue, the audience has greatly diminished because of a lack of policy results and changing political winds.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/tea-party-pacs-ideas-death-214164#ixzz4HPOs5vba
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I used to get a lot of that fun raising crap (probably still do).  I ignore it all.

Judgment, when it comes, will be spectacular.
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: Jocassee on August 15, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Related but not related--does anyone remember a thread from several years back where some liberal popped in here and said something about Tea Party people being paid protesters? And a couple people came back and said they had actually been at Tea Party rallies. I want to say this was 2011 or 2010.
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: MechAg94 on August 15, 2016, 10:50:50 AM
The Tea Party stuff was never a top down movement.  It was always just a "throw the bums out" sort of thing.  If there was anything that killed it was the fact that most of the candidates that were swept into office end up as sell-outs.  However, it is still healthy to throw the bums out periodically.
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: roo_ster on August 15, 2016, 12:33:44 PM
Related but not related--does anyone remember a thread from several years back where some liberal popped in here and said something about Tea Party people being paid protesters? And a couple people came back and said they had actually been at Tea Party rallies. I want to say this was 2011 or 2010.

I went to several Tea Party events in the 2009-2011 time frame and likely didn't keep it secret from APS.
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: Andiron on August 15, 2016, 01:52:51 PM
I went to several Tea Party events in the 2009-2011 time frame and likely didn't keep it secret from APS.

Same here, WRT the events.  There was a pretty good local following in NE Ohio.  Guy owns a restaurant that became the monthly Tea Party meeting place.

 It was really cool how engaged everyONE was, until we all got disgusted and gave up  :facepalm:
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: Scout26 on August 15, 2016, 07:44:26 PM
A better title of that article would be "How the Tea Party was Bilked."
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Post by: seeker_two on August 15, 2016, 09:22:50 PM
There were a few good moments....electing Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz were small victories. But the fix was in from the beginning.

Some people can take a subtle hint. Some require a baseball bat. The GOP establishment wouldn't take the hint. Now they get the bat....
Title: Re: How the Tea Party was subverted and killed
Post by: p12 on August 15, 2016, 10:58:35 PM
I went to a few rallies here that Cruz was at. Also a few when Perry was launching his White House bid. Was pretty cool.