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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: MechAg94 on September 10, 2016, 11:34:58 PM
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https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM
I was sent this youtube link earlier today. Basically a guy making the case for Hillary have advanced Parkinson's disease. Any thoughts?
I was also offered a bet that this is Wikileaks October surprise. I am expecting more than that though.
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I hope this guy has life insurance.
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Not sure I buy Parkinsons. Also not sure of the freakish behavior with the coffee.
Explanation might something as simple as a 70 year old woman not aging well & falling apart on schedule combined with the long and short term effects of alcohol(ism). Toss in more stress than she has ever had in her life.
But, parkinsons or just an aged drunk, she sure looks in rough shape.
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Nothing wrong with her, it's just really hard to keep a human disguise on an agitated lizard >:D
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Not sure I buy Parkinsons. Also not sure of the freakish behavior with the coffee.
Explanation might something as simple as a 70 year old woman not aging well & falling apart on schedule combined with the long and short term effects of alcohol(ism). Toss in more stress than she has ever had in her life.
But, parkinsons or just an aged drunk, she sure looks in rough shape.
Not sure if I buy it, either. I spent years around my grandfather, who had Parkinson's and this just doesn't seem it, though I readily admit my experience certainly doesn't make me an expert.
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I don't know about Parkinson's. I was at first thinking the health thing was a bit tin-foily, but she's been having a lot of incidents lately, now including fainting at a 9/11 service. Without knowing more facts, I think I'm hitching on to roo_ster's wagon: she's old.
That, in and of itself, doesn't necessarily mean much, but she seems to be showing that she's old and frail. Certainly the presidential campaign trail is rough - even for someone half her age. However, if she can't make it through the campaign without visible incidents, how is she going to make it through a much tougher four years as President?
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She does not have to make it through four years- she has to make it through the election- this is about the criminal regime, not the individual.
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She does not have to make it through four years- she has to make it through the election- this is about the criminal regime, not the individual.
That is what I was wondering about this Wikileaks October surprise. If it is related to her health, I am leaning toward stuff about the people behind the scenes actually running things.
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This comment resonated with me, saw it on a blog post discussing her health.
"It must be deeply dispiriting to be dragged out of her sick bed, shot full of drugs, slathered in makeup, and wheeled out to tiny crowds of bored Democrat party hacks in mostly empty venues while she croaks out whatever her handlers whisper into her earpiece."
She is definitely a puppet being propped up by globalist masters IMHO.
The next question is does anyone pull Trumps levers or is he a truly independent actor?
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Whatever she has, it's not Parkinsons.
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This comment resonated with me, saw it on a blog post discussing her health.
"It must be deeply dispiriting to be dragged out of her sick bed, shot full of drugs, slathered in makeup, and wheeled out to tiny crowds of bored Democrat party hacks in mostly empty venues while she croaks out whatever her handlers whisper into her earpiece."
She is definitely a puppet being propped up by globalist masters IMHO.
The next question is does anyone pull Trumps levers or is he a truly independent actor?
A simpler explanation is that she NEEDS to win in order to keep a lot of people out of prison, including herself. Politics has become so corrupt that all the marbles go to the person who appoints the AG.
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Whatever she has, it's not Parkinsons.
Maybe, but there is something seriously wrong with her.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-says.html
Click the link then scroll down for the Twitter video of her getting in her van. Some thoughts:
1. Why is she using a van? Most people would use a limo or SUV. Is the van better equipped?
2. She appears to be leaning on the post with someone holder her arm when the van pulls up.
3. As she stands, she she loses her balance or her left knee buckles.
4. She can't walk by herself to the van.
5. She stumbles and loses a shoe trying to get into the van.
6. The media that is allowed to follow her were held in place for one hour.
If this were an isolated incident, I could write it off, but she has had many separate medical issues of the last year or two. I think she is seriously messed up.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-says.html
Does not look good.
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Does not look good.
Does not not look good. >:D
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I can't remember where I read it/saw it, but what some people suggested was some kind of auto-injector for medications might've been a small flashlight or laser pointer - they speculated that whatever she suffered from, it was easier to walk if one followed a small spot of light or a laser dot on the floor? Possibly Alzheimer's disease? Or aftermath of a severe stroke?
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It might be worse than we dared uh... hope.
https://mobile.twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200/video/1
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It might be worse than we dared uh... hope.
https://mobile.twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200/video/1
That wasn't a walk, that was a controlled fall in a forward direction.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-says.html
https://mobile.twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200/video/1
Holy sheepdip. Isn't there a teevee series dedicated to HRC called "The Walking Dead?"
Oh, and why a van vs limo or suburban? BIGGER target and easier for her to be man-handled into the van, seeing that TWO clamshell doors open up to get the Clinton Carcass on board and ready for her IV fluids. HRC is essentially lifted into the van, with a man on either side to make it happen. Visual analogy for feminism?
Assuming we take the Clinton camp at face value, she still exhibits the traits of an old woman in poor health who can not tolerate any heat.
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The "heat" in NYC this morning was 75 degrees.
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I'm leaning more toward severe complications from a stroke with a side of CHD.....
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My daughter has some friends that are Hillary supporters and at lunch the other day I explained that she is sick with something and she is so ill that really they are voting for Tim Kaine. And that they should look more into him to see if he's their kind of guy.
I don't know if they believed me, I think they were confused by what I was saying. Maybe they are too young to conceive of the idea that a presidential candidate might win and yet be unable to serve.
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I can't remember where I read it/saw it, but what some people suggested was some kind of auto-injector for medications might've been a small flashlight or laser pointer - they speculated that whatever she suffered from, it was easier to walk if one followed a small spot of light or a laser dot on the floor? Possibly Alzheimer's disease? Or aftermath of a severe stroke?
I suppose that would work if she were a cat, or even a zombie
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She does not have to make it through four years- she has to make it through the election- this is about the criminal regime, not the individual.
That's the way I look at it, too.
And the criminal regime is having a hard time keeping her servos running.
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A Facebook friend made a comment to the effect that "perhaps she feels the election is more important than her health." (paraphrased)
So, it'll be "Vote for Martyr Hillary"?
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Maybe, but there is something seriously wrong with her.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-says.html
Click the link then scroll down for the Twitter video of her getting in her van. Some thoughts:
1. Why is she using a van? Most people would use a limo or SUV. Is the van better equipped?
2. She appears to be leaning on the post with someone holder her arm when the van pulls up.
3. As she stands, she she loses her balance or her left knee buckles.
4. She can't walk by herself to the van.
5. She stumbles and loses a shoe trying to get into the van.
6. The media that is allowed to follow her were held in place for one hour.
If this were an isolated incident, I could write it off, but she has had many separate medical issues of the last year or two. I think she is seriously messed up.
Add to the above list: Her departure was apparently so abrupt that the Secret Service was caught unprepared. The video shows her waiting at curbside for the van to arrive. A former Secret Service agent has pointed out that this is a breach of protocol -- the VIP is never supposed to be standing around, waiting for the vehicle. When the vehicle arrived, it was the detail leader who opened the doors -- that's not his job, there's supposed to be someone on the site detail assigned to that.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-hillary-clinton-secret-service-protocol-20160911-story.html
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I'm leaning more toward severe complications from a stroke with a side of CHD.....
She has canine hip dysplasia?
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So, if she drops out due to poor health, that will leave us with what? Kaine vs. Trump?
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/
Secretary Clinton has pneumonia, according to several news outlets.
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^^^Oh, and we can always believe the media outlets to tell us the truth.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/
Secretary Clinton has pneumonia, according to several news outlets.
I just saw that on another source.
I'm not buying it. I have had pneumonia -- many, many times. I know there's something called "walking pneumonia," and since she has been walking around (sort of), I suppose we are left to conjecture that she has the walking form. But the walking form should not leave her so wobbly on her pegs that she couldn't walk five paces from the sidewalk to her van. And the other form would have left her bed-ridden.
The thing with pneumonia is, it HURTS to breathe. You have to take small, short, shallow breaths -- trying to take a deep breath results in sharp, searing agony in the lungs. But it doesn't affect your legs.
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She either fainted or had a seizure, here's a closeup of her feet dragging Weekend at Bernie's style.
http://m.imgur.com/d64lECA
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She has canine hip dysplasia?
Well at her age it's to be expected.
Sent from my iPhone. Freaking autocorrect.
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After she becomes president
She's gonna fall and can't get back up
Then she's gonna go to hit the Life Alert button
And by mistake hit the Big Red Button, and start WWIII
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I actually believe the pneumonia thing and the dehydration.
The leg wobble looks like someone unsteady on their feet and trying to keep balance. I've seen plenty of drunks do the same wobble. I've been taken out by overheating and dehydration enough times to know how unsteady I can get before I hit the deck.
What causes me to raise an eyebrow is that they knew she was sick Friday. Instead of coming out with it straight off and having her cancel appearances and rest, first they lie, then they lie again and it takes all day for them to finally admit that she was actually sick. Now, I don't know about you but saying, "Yeah, severe allergies lead to pneumonia and she needs to rest and get better." is a much better way to deal with both the fact that she's under attack for lack of transparency and her health than getting caught in a really stupid lie about it.
Plus, the fact that in addition to being to stupid to use a computer, figure out classified emails, she's is also apparently too stupid to take basic care of herself and her health.
If her allergies lead to pneumonia, she can't help that, but being so stupid that she didn't know to take it easy and got dehydrated because of it, that makes the state of her health actually pertinent. So, she might not drop dead of some covered up health issue, instead she drops dead because she doesn't take care of herself. It's not really an improvement.
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We might just be lucky. I see her croaking on stage during a debate, since Bejus hasn't totally forsaken us/ and karma should be catching up with her any moment now. That or she falls down and the country feels bad and votes her evil ass in in a landslide.
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What causes me to raise an eyebrow is that they knew she was sick Friday. Instead of coming out with it straight off and having her cancel appearances and rest, first they lie, then they lie again and it takes all day for them to finally admit that she was actually sick. Now, I don't know about you but saying, "Yeah, severe allergies lead to pneumonia and she needs to rest and get better." is a much better way to deal with both the fact that she's under attack for lack of transparency and her health than getting caught in a really stupid lie about it.
That would be a logical and straight-ahead approach. If it were true. They are dribbling bit out here and there and making it up as they go along because it is likely something more serious/chronic/degenerative/debilitating than pneumonia.
The video of her getting man-handled into the van was bad enough. The close-up Balog shared was even worse. HRC was unable to aid in her locomotion in any way. She's the punch line for a joke:
Q: What do you do with a dog with no legs?
A: Take it for a drag.
Which is what they did with HRC.
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I tend to agree with roo_ster. This more than just a temporary illness. The Weekend at Bernies comment was something I heard from others today about this. With the earpiece spotted recently, who is running her campaign? Is it still her?
The first Presidential debate is in about 2 weeks. We will see if that goes as scheduled. Looking at that video, she is currently in no shape to do a debate.
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One of the ground rules for any debates going forward should be NO EARBUDS.
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They'd use bone conduction, and hide it.
Like, for instance, http://www.popsci.com/these-sunglasses-are-bone-conduction-headphones (http://www.popsci.com/these-sunglasses-are-bone-conduction-headphones)
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Fortunately, they had the back-up Hillary unit stashed at Chelsea's.
Meanwhile the software engineers are working unpaid OT on Hillary v39.32.1 since there was a major crash of v39.31.6 to get that up and running by tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest.
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Perhaps the smell at ground zero of bravery, valor, and leadership following the 9/11 attacks is what sickened her?
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Oh man! >:D
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Several neurological diseases, including Parkinson's, can cause aspiration pneumonia.
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CNN: ‘Secret Service agents helped her into a van’ but law enforcement says ‘they threw her in like she was a side of beef’
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/11/cnn-secret-service-agents-helped-van-law-enforcement-says-threw-like-side-beef/
New HRC Logo:
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They'd use bone conduction, and hide it.
A few seconds in a walk-in microwave should take care of that.
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YouTube's apparently been pulling videos of HRC's collapse...they CLAIM it's because of a money/rights issue...however, YouTube is owned by Google, Google's been editing search results to hide stuff related to discussions about HRC's health, among other things.
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YouTube's apparently been pulling videos of HRC's collapse...they CLAIM it's because of a money/rights issue...however, YouTube is owned by Google, Google's been editing search results to hide stuff related to discussions about HRC's health, among other things.
Good thing I downloaded vids last night. :)
Chris
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YouTube's apparently been pulling videos of HRC's collapse...they CLAIM it's because of a money/rights issue...however, YouTube is owned by Google, Google's been editing search results to hide stuff related to discussions about HRC's health, among other things.
The videos are still up. Who's money/rights are Youtube worried about?
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The videos are still up. Who's money/rights are Youtube worried about?
Apparently some people felt it was "fair use". The owner of the video felt differently.
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Who's money/rights are Youtube worried about?
The money her campaign will pay them to take it down.
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1. The FIRST explanation is that she "overheated" . . . even when they KNEW she had pneumonia since Friday. What was the temp at the time? 75 or 80? Takes a delicate constitution or serious illness to overheat in those temps.
2. Despite the Friday diagnosis, the Clinton campaign was still claiming she was in good health (i.e., lying) up until her collapse. Why should we believe the "pneumonia" explanation now, considering the source?
3. Reports say "some" illness has been running through Clinton staffers - a few needed hospitalization. IF this is true, something else might be going on.
4. Clinton campaign claims the "earbud" photos are just light reflections. Very tricky, that light - what are you going to believe, Clinton staff or your own lying eyes?
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FWIW, there is a nastyish URI going around the Mid-Atlantic region. I was fighting something my first week back from vacation. My wife is fighting with it now, and a couple cow-orkers have dealt with it.
However, none of us passed out in 80 deg weather. :)
Chris
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Right now, the only completely ludicrous conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton’s health is that there’s nothing wrong with it.
Let’s take a look at all the different, and contradictory, explanations we’ve had for Hillary Clinton’s health problems over the last week, going back to her nearly unwatchable coughing attack on September 5:
1) She’s fine.
2) Okay, maybe she coughed a little, but it’s just allergies.
3) Calm down, she just tripped at that 9/11 memorial event.
4) Okay, maybe she didn’t exactly trip, but she overheated because it was so hot outside.
5) Okay, maybe it was only 79 degrees and she was in the shade, but she was totally dehydrated and stuff.
6) On second thought, she has a really bad case of pneumonia.
7) Actually, she’s “feeling great” now and not contagious so we’re going to make a spectacle of her hugging a kid in the street.
8 ) Yeah, about that not contagious thing: the whole campaign pretty much caught the plague from Hillary.
9) Hillary Clinton feels so great right now that her campaign just canceled two days of events.
10) She’s fine.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/12/hillary-clintons-campaign-needs-hire-better-liars/
It will be unfortunate if she dies before November, thus ensuring a Democratic victory. On the other hand, we wouldn't have to see her in office.
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Chris Cilliza, you say? Yeah, he's already been caught hypocrisizing all over himself. Note his previous obsession with McCain's health, circa 2008.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/08/washington-post-reporter-gets-defensive-about-health-reporting-flip-flops/
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Chris Cilliza, you say? Yeah, he's already been caught hypocrisizing all over himself. Note his previous obsession with McCain's health, circa 2008.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/08/washington-post-reporter-gets-defensive-about-health-reporting-flip-flops/
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Which one is Cilizza is a Dem party secret.
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Which one is Cilizza is a Dem party secret.
Until they email old girl about it.
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From context, I assume that little girl was not her granddaughter.
Is anyone going to keep track of the girl's health in the next couple of weeks?
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Just read this article I found from a friend's Facebook post:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/09/12/ex-secret-service-agent-who-protected-clinton-shares-nonpartisan-rundown-of-why-her-fainting-video-really-scares-him/
Former Secret Service agent who wrote the book about serving during Bill Clinton's presidency notes issues with the details reaction, and how that indicates Hillary's illness is a recurring problem.
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The more I watch that video the more I think she is seriously ill.
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One interesting point: If we go with "pneumonia", aren't many types contagious? Yet instead of going to a hospital or isolated location, she goes to her daughter's place, with the new baby?
Either a bad grandma or not pneumonia.
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Not pneumonia.
I don't know of any doctor that will not put you into the hospital immediately, (if not sooner) if you have pneumonia. You don't go to your daugther's apartment and are cured a few hours later. You are looking at least 2, if not more days, in the hospital.
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Not pneumonia.
I don't know of any doctor that will not put you into the hospital immediately, (if not sooner) if you have pneumonia. You don't go to your daugther's apartment and are cured a few hours later. You are looking at least 2, if not more days, in the hospital.
I tend to agree with you. That said:
Walking Pneumonia
"Walking pneumonia" sounds like it could be a character in a sci-fi horror flick. Although this form of infectious pneumonia can make you miserable, it's actually the least scary kind of pneumonia. That's because it's a mild pneumonia and does not generally require hospitalization. You could have walking pneumonia and not even know it.
Here is information about what causes this illness, how it spreads, and what you can do to avoid it.
What is walking pneumonia?
Walking pneumonia is a non-medical term to describe a mild case of pneumonia. It can also be called atypical pneumonia because the disease is different from more serious cases of pneumonia caused by typical bacteria.
Pneumonia is a disease of the lungs that often results from a lung infection. Lots of things can cause pneumonia, including:
Bacteria, including mycoplasma
Viruses
Fungi
Other infectious agents
Chemicals
Inhaled food
Walking pneumonia is often the result of a lung infection from a bacterial microorganism called Mycoplasma pneumoniae.
People who have walking pneumonia are seldom confined to bed or need to be hospitalized. Some may even feel well enough go to work and carry on with other regular routines, just as they might with a cold.
Not saying she has "walking pneumonia" but that is a plausible cause that would no require a hurtspital stay. However, that is also a pretty contagious form of pneumonia, so spending time with her grandkids or doing a photo-op with some donor's kid is a pretty bad decision if she does have walking pneumonia.
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Just read this article I found from a friend's Facebook post:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/09/12/ex-secret-service-agent-who-protected-clinton-shares-nonpartisan-rundown-of-why-her-fainting-video-really-scares-him/
Former Secret Service agent who wrote the book about serving during Bill Clinton's presidency notes issues with the details reaction, and how that indicates Hillary's illness is a recurring problem.
That is some interesting observation. No one in the group is shocked or surprised by her problems. Looks like just another day at the office.
One other thing I keep hearing about all this is people commenting on how her and her campaign can't seem to tell the truth no matter how trivial. I think that is becoming a major unspoken message in all this.
I also hear is people who assume Tim Kaine would be the replacement if she were to drop out or fall out of the race. Why would her selection of VP running mate become the new nominee?
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Chris Cilliza, you say? Yeah, he's already been caught hypocrisizing all over himself. Note his previous obsession with McCain's health, circa 2008.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/08/washington-post-reporter-gets-defensive-about-health-reporting-flip-flops/
Mollie Hemingway is awesome. The Federalist has been tearing it up on this.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/12/helpful-step-step-guide-defending-every-clinton-scandal/
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I tend to agree with you. That said:
Not saying she has "walking pneumonia" but that is a plausible cause that would no require a hurtspital stay. However, that is also a pretty contagious form of pneumonia, so spending time with her grandkids or doing a photo-op with some donor's kid is a pretty bad decision if she does have walking pneumonia.
If it's a milder case of walking pneumonia I doubt it'd make her collapse after spending an hour or two in 79* weather in the shade.
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Not pneumonia:
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The guy who videotaped her is some Czech guy with a funny name. Dino Velvet sounds like a gay porn star. Still a funny meme.
Also, seizure glasses! http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/just-pneumonia-thats-keeping-hillary-shades/
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That is some interesting observation. No one in the group is shocked or surprised by her problems. Looks like just another day at the office.
One other thing I keep hearing about all this is people commenting on how her and her campaign can't seem to tell the truth no matter how trivial. I think that is becoming a major unspoken message in all this.
I also hear is people who assume Tim Kaine would be the replacement if she were to drop out or fall out of the race. Why would her selection of VP running mate become the new nominee?
The party picks the candidate by whatever means they choose.
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Wrong thread
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Wrong thread
That's what they want you to believe.
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That's what they want you to believe.
For the record I am not suicidal, I have no family history or risk factors for heart disease, and I do not frequent high crime areas. Just saying...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-12/angry-secret-service-denies-it-broke-protocol-sloppy-handling-hillarys-rushed-exit
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-12/what-happens-if-hillary-clinton-has-drop-out
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Dino Velvet sounds like a gay porn star.
It's the name of a snuff porn producer, played by one of my favorite actors Peter Stormare, in the movie 8mm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPKuefLMG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq5jLrMNafg
Chris
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Mollie Hemingway is awesome.
troo
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From context, I assume that little girl was not her granddaughter.
Is anyone going to keep track of the girl's health in the next couple of weeks?
Well Hillary doesn't appear to have whispered any secrets into the girls ear, so she should be fine.
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The rumour mill is also coming out with Hillary using a "body double" at times, another reason "she" avoids the press.
(Several memes have come out asking if Chelsea's apartment also has a liposuction machine as the "Hillary" that came out to give the little girl a case of pneumonia has a different, smaller, body shape then the real Hillary.)
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One interesting point: If we go with "pneumonia", aren't many types contagious? Yet instead of going to a hospital or isolated location, she goes to her daughter's place, with the new baby?
Thank you. Posed this question on a liberal associate's FB post about how much she admires Hillary for forging on with the campaign when she obviously has such a horrible case of pneumonia. She deleted the post shortly after my comment got a half dozen likes.
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Not pneumonia:
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Did someone hear the aid say that?
In that photo, it doesn't look like Hillary is holder the lady's fingers.
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Everyone around her is so nonchalant about the prospective President of the USA being barely able to stand and then basically collapsing.
This whole election season has been bizzaro world. It has ripped the mask of "normal" off of what you thought you could take for granted.
It's all lies all the way to the bottom, across the whole political spectrum.
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But in our irrational minds – the part that actually makes decisions – we really, really don’t want a commander-in-chief who is so frail that she might sneeze-fart herself to death in the Situation Room.
Heh.
Everyone around her is so nonchalant about the prospective President of the USA being barely able to stand and then basically collapsing.
This whole election season has been bizzaro world. It has ripped the mask of "normal" off of what you thought you could take for granted.
It's all lies all the way to the bottom, across the whole political spectrum.
That is just a Conspiracy Theory. No matter the empirical evidence pointing toward Conspiracy Fact.
Tangent Warning:
American Pravda: How the CIA Invented "Conspiracy Theories"
http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-how-the-cia-invented-conspiracy-theories/
Obviously, a large fraction of everything described by our government leaders or presented in the pages of our most respectable newspapers—from the 9/11 attacks to the most insignificant local case of petty urban corruption—could objectively be categorized as a “conspiracy theory” but such words are never applied. Instead, use of that highly loaded phrase is reserved for those theories, whether plausible or fanciful, that do not possess the endorsement stamp of establishmentarian approval.
Put another way, there are good “conspiracy theories” and bad “conspiracy theories,” with the former being the ones promoted by pundits on mainstream television shows and hence never described as such.
Better hold on to your tin foil...
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Orwell wasn't prescient in his book "1984" but was describing the reality of his day in a fictional manner.
We have just lost that much more and gone down the memory hole farther since then.
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Probably the best way to hide the truth is to bury it in a conspiracy. That similar to the common tactic of accusing your opponents of whatever you are guilty of as it makes difficult for them to throw it back at you.
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And now there's talk about body doubles.....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/did-hillary-clinton-body-double-205700979.html
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And now there's talk about body doubles.....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/did-hillary-clinton-body-double-205700979.html
I had to quit reading after they called it a conspiracy theory. Conspiracies are illegal acts. Is there a law against using a double for campaign appearances? And why do people keep saying "body double"? A body double is someone that looks like you (or better than you) from the neck down.
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Probably the best way to hide the truth is to bury it in a conspiracy. That similar to the common tactic of accusing your opponents of whatever you are guilty of as it makes difficult for them to throw it back at you.
Bill Clinton did that a lot. As did other Democrats. (They still do, for that matter.)
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Bill Clinton did that a lot. As did other Democrats. (They still do, for that matter.)
They've even gone meta with it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-weiler/the-gops-nanananana-polit_b_1432600.html
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Wishful thinking?
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/09/abc-reports-hillary-clintons-death.html
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Wishful thinking?
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/09/abc-reports-hillary-clintons-death.html
Doesn't disqualify her on the Illinois ballot.....
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Interesting - even the MSM is covering, "what do the dems do if Hillary can't run?". Apparently they cannot stop her, but if she quits voluntarily, then the dem national committee, currently headed by Donna Brazile, gets to make a decision.
I wonder how Sanders will feel when the DNC puts up Biden? =D
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Interesting - even the MSM is covering, "what do the dems do if Hillary can't run?". Apparently they cannot stop her, but if she quits voluntarily, then the dem national committee, currently headed by Donna Brazile, gets to make a decision.
I wonder how Sanders will feel when the DNC puts up Biden? =D
Wonder who Biden will feel up when the DNC selects him?
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Everyone around her is so nonchalant about the prospective President of the USA being barely able to stand and then basically collapsing.
Which suggests (to me, anyway) that they've seen it before -- more than once.
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It's almost pathetic how the media is covering for Hillary. On the Today Show this AM they had Meat Loaf on to pimp his new album. But, the conversation immediately got around to Meat Loaf collapsing on stage in June. They showed the video of it twice, maybe 3 times. Then asked what happened. He said it was nothing he was just "dehydrated". Coincidence? At this time? We report, you decide.
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Interesting - even the MSM is covering, "what do the dems do if Hillary can't run?". Apparently they cannot stop her, but if she quits voluntarily, then the dem national committee, currently headed by Donna Brazile, gets to make a decision.
I wonder how Sanders will feel when the DNC puts up Biden? =D
Yes, PLEASE let them put an old, white dude at the top of the ticket! :rofl:
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Did someone hear the aid say that?
In that photo, it doesn't look like Hillary is holder the lady's fingers.
Hillary's right hand is holding the aide's left two fingers.
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Wishful thinking?
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/09/abc-reports-hillary-clintons-death.html
First Comment:
Nah, Hillary "dies" from time to time, but the only way to be permanently rid of her is to venture deep into the Maine sewer system and defeat her spider form.
=D
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Heh, I see I am not the only one who recalls playing the "Queen of the Demonweb Pits" module back in the day.
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I thought they were talking about Stephen King's It and the TV miniseries they made of it.
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I thought they were talking about Stephen King's It and the TV miniseries they made of it.
Never saw that. Probably a common template.
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Hillary's right hand is holding the aide's left two fingers.
I don't think so. At least not in that photo. Here it is enlarged and cropped:
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The two hands don't line up correctly for a finger squeeze.
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Video would tell the tale. If it was just a well time photo of a normal conversation that just looked like what Zero Hedge claims, or really was a quick neuro exam.
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Same or Different?
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[shrug] Lizard people often make small changes to their disguises.
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Same or Different?
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14316820_925817454207851_5973333803679298192_n.jpg?oh=a843f5c10e70b386866334f660358a44&oe=58741D1C)
Noses look different. One on the left looks straighter.
Forehead slopes appear a little different, but that could just be the photo angle and lighting. Change in slope appears much closer to the hairline on the right.
Haircut appears slightly different around the ears.
Face overall looks more slender on the right.
Again, could just be differences in lighting and camera angle. But I'd give it around 1/3 odds of being different people.
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Same or Different?
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A good mortician can work miracles with makeup.
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Why would anyone want to double for her?
One there can't be to many out there that can and two imagine the death sentence if you screw up.
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Meh, same HRC from different angles. The 2-D projection of the 3-D shape will look a bit different.
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I agree, same creature, just a fresh coat of
spackle make-up.
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Remember the original TV mini-series V from 83?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(1983_miniseries)
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Face overall looks more slender on the right.
That can change easily in a fairly short period of time due to hydration levels, fatigue, etc. A quick nap can firm things up, or remove tension.
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Details of the ear, details of skin wrinkles, would tell.
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Must be hell for the Chief DNC Liemaker to have his successive lies controverted by successive facts.
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Must be hell for the Chief DNC Liemaker to have his successive lies controverted by successive facts.
He works for the DNC. What else could he have expected?
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Remember the original TV mini-series V from 83?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(1983_miniseries)
There was a pretty good remake of that a few years ago. Morena Baccarin played Diana, leader of the aliens.
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There was a pretty good remake of that a few years ago. Morena Baccarin played Diana, leader of the aliens.
Firefly got a longer run.
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http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2016/09/14/a-brief-note-about-hillary-clintons-medical-incident-on-911-2016/
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Not certain if this qualifies as thread drift or not, but multiple Internet sources seem to have stumbled on the [purported] fact that a mysterious "health care" facility lists as its address the same address (including the floor) where Chelsea Clinton and her scam artist husband have made their abode:
http://hopelesslypartisan.com/is-chelsea-clintons-apartment-a-health-care-facility/
One article reported that the telephone number listed for the [purported] health care facility is answered by an elderly woman who speaks neither English nor Spanish.
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The above is almost as good as true life.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I-5WNUtsefQ/V6oKfdSK9SI/AAAAAAAAExw/MoqIrBaQaHIH6snyhnKN9QjEz6Ucsg2aQCLcB/s1600/H%2Bpride%2Bparade.jpg)
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"shed the skin, ate it, and grew a new one (http://sqrpt.com/2016/09/15/the-squirrel-report-208/)"
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Mrs. Clinton gives interview after the NYC explosion. She seems not altogether there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ivm4qQqI4
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Could be exhausted/sleepy. She shouldn't be doing press appearances in that state, if she wants to win. Let's hope there are many more such to follow - until she loses in November, and is forgotten.
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until she loses in November, and is forgotten.
This is my mantra for this election. Be rid of Clintons.
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Mrs. Clinton gives interview after the NYC explosion. She seems not altogether there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ivm4qQqI4
Probably just drunk.
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Mrs. Clinton gives interview after the NYC explosion. She seems not altogether there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ivm4qQqI4
About halfway through: "I'll have more to say about it when we actually have some facts."
BRAVO! So why are you blathering on about it when you obviously know NOTHING?
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Probably just drunk.
"Foggy" is how I would describe it.
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About halfway through: "I'll have more to say about it when we actually have some facts."
BRAVO! So why are you blathering on about it when you obviously know NOTHING?
Presumably, she was asked. She is a presidential candidate.
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Presumably, she was asked. She is a presidential candidate.
If asked, she could have simply said that she doesn't know anything. But ... she's a politician, and she's trying to appear "presidential," so she had to embark on a lengthy round of bloviating about being in touch with the authorities, and supporting the first responders (who is that, the sanitation department workers who have to sweep up the mess?), yada yada ...
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http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-just-dropped-bombshell-hillarys-health-truth-revealed/#ixzz4KoxQaajv
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http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-just-dropped-bombshell-hillarys-health-truth-revealed/#ixzz4KoxQaajv
Is that a serious site? Do you have a more reputable source?
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I read about this today on a credible site, or heard it on Rush. Can't remember which, but I'm pretty sure it's for real.
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I read about this today on a credible site, or heard it on Rush. Can't remember which, but I'm pretty sure it's for real.
I haven't seen it on Fox, CNN, or BBC.
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Is that a serious site? Do you have a more reputable source?
I don't know anything about that site. Here's the WikiLeaks website:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25404
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I don't know anything about that site. Here's the WikiLeaks website:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25404
Are there other emails that associated with this one? This one isn't damning at all. I thinky Hillary is as slimy as pond scum, but that one email doesn't mean anything.
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Hillary cancelled a fundraising appearance scheduled for today. Must be something to this health thing, nothing can normally keep her from
getting contributions selling influence.
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Are there other emails that associated with this one? This one isn't damning at all. I thinky Hillary is as slimy as pond scum, but that one email doesn't mean anything.
The interpretation is that it may indicate that she has Parkinson's. So not damning, no. It may discourage Democratic voters, however, and lower turn-out.
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The interpretation is that it may indicate that she has Parkinson's. So not damning, no. It may discourage Democratic voters, however, and lower turn-out.
It's damning in that if true she and her doctor have continually lied to the press and public.
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It's damning in that if true she and her doctor have continually lied to the press and public.
OMG! Hillary lied!
Again ...
:yawn:
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Lots of people use or are interested in Provigil. I looked into it myself a little a few years ago because the idea of having an extra seven hours a day with few if any side effects is really cool. Doesn't mean I have Parkinsons.
I agree that she doesn't appear to be in good health, and perhaps she does have Parkinsons or other nervous disorder, but that email isn't going to convince anyone who doesn't already believe it.
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Eh, what Cordex said. I've been on Provigil before to deal with excessive daytime sleepiness. It helps you stay awake in a much nicer manner than a normal "upper" (not habit forming, no high, no shakiness, no rapid heartrate). I could totally see a presidential candidate going on it to help deal with the effects of endless late hours and early mornings that come with candidacy.
Without some other emails or leaks that are Parkinsons specific, this one doesn't reveal much. Don't get me wrong, I think there are likely damaging things about her health that could be leaked/revealed, but this email doesn't reveal jack.
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The insinuation is all that's needed. It may not make sense, but why would that matter? =|
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It's damning in that if true she and her doctor have continually lied to the press and public.
Actually, after reading her doctor's letters and statements, I believe that Hillary could have parkinsons or any number of diseases/conditions and the doctor still wouldn't be lying.
Lie of omission, sure, but if you look closely at the phrasing, it seems quite lawyerly.
Things like "new conditions" and "at this time"
And if you notice in the doctors letter, it says (paraphrase) the letter describes things new since January, and then also mentions status of the last physical in the prior summer...leaving a substantive gap. By the language used, anything -starting- or diagnosed in that gap could be omitted without any party technically lying.
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Actually, after reading her doctor's letters and statements, I believe that Hillary could have parkinsons or any number of diseases/conditions and the doctor still wouldn't be lying.
Lie of omission, sure, but if you look closely at the phrasing, it seems quite lawyerly.
Things like "new conditions" and "at this time"
And if you notice in the doctors letter, it says (paraphrase) the letter describes things new since January, and then also mentions status of the last physical in the prior summer...leaving a substantive gap. By the language used, anything -starting- or diagnosed in that gap could be omitted without any party technically lying.
So lying like a politician.
Which brings up another subject. I am continually amazed at how many people will listen to a misleading, weaseling statement by someone and completely miss all the non-committal language and exceptions.
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Just as an aside compare Hillary's body shape from the Bill's Birthday fund raiser on Martha's Vineyard:
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To the one of her in front of Chelsea's apartment.
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I think that Chelsea has an undocumented/unlicensed Liposuction machine in her apartment.
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I wonder if you could program your cell phone camera flash to do a quick strobe?
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scout, the only explanation I can think of it they are strapping her with monitoring stuff sometimes. I have seen other shots of her wearing tents like that.
However, them using a body double to make non-speaking appearances just fits with all the lying and deceit that she has done her entire political career.
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scout, the only explanation I can think of it they are strapping her with monitoring stuff sometimes. I have seen other shots of her wearing tents like that.
However, them using a body double to make non-speaking appearances just fits with all the lying and deceit that she has done her entire political career.
Yep, if you are sick and de-hydrated (remember she's ~70 years old), she's not "bouncing back" from that 3 hours later. I don't know of any doctor that would allow their patient to go "walk-about" after totally collapsing (she lost consciousness) less then 3 hours prior. Especially with pneumonia. Not at her age, no way.
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Yep, if you are sick and de-hydrated (remember she's ~70 years old), she's not "bouncing back" from that 3 hours later. I don't know of any doctor that would allow their patient to go "walk-about" after totally collapsing (she lost consciousness) less then 3 hours prior. Especially with pneumonia. Not at her age, no way.
Yep. And, regardless of how the mainstream media try to play it, we've seen the video. She didn't "stumble" when getting into that van at the 9/11 memorial. She was totally out of it and being carried by the Secret Service guys.
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Yep. And, regardless of how the mainstream media try to play it, we've seen the video. She didn't "stumble" when getting into that van at the 9/11 memorial. She was totally out of it and being carried by the Secret Service guys.
But media keep referring to it as "stumbling." Makes me want to throw stuff. Liars.
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Is that a serious site? Do you have a more reputable source?
I haven't seen it on Fox, CNN, or BBC.
Make up your mind.....do you want a credible source or MSM?
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Old news, but she was truly suffering from dehydration, why didn't some of her high-priced help offer her a bottle of water or a Gatorade or something?