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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Monkeyleg on September 24, 2016, 07:37:45 PM
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Hillary invited Mark Cuban, a billionaire who's no big fan of Trump, to Monday's debate, with a front-row seat. Clinton figures his presence will rile Trump.
Trump returned the favor by inviting Gennifer Flowers to a front row seat. She has gladly accepted. No word yet on whether he'll follow through.
Hillary really shouldn't be throwing stones, as she can get crushed when the gravel truck unloads.
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Trump's front row of guests should include Gennifer Flowers, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Dolly Kyle Browning . . . etc. etc. >:D
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That was well played.
Though if it was me I might have gone for Juanita Broaderick.
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Also any of the family members of her Benghazi victims that would be willing to come.
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Also any of the family members of her Benghazi victims that would be willing to come.
Obviously.
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Also any of the family members of her Benghazi victims that would be willing to come.
You think she'd even know them by sight?
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You think she'd even know them by sight?
Or give a damn.
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Just the idea of a Flowers being there is working its magic this weekend.
Getting in her head and distracting her for the win :rofl:
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They should all wear stained Blue dresses...
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Yeah, he should have dropped a nuke and invite Monica Lewinsky....
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Yeah, he should have dropped a nuke and invite Monica Lewinsky....
Didn't someone - Machiavelli? - once say you should never do your enemy a minor injury? >:D
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Didn't someone - Machiavelli? - once say you should never do your enemy a minor injury? >:D
"Pretend inferiority and encourage his (or Hillary's) arrogance." Sun Tzu
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You think she'd even know them by sight?
Give them prominent ID badges.
Hi ! I'm a relative of a
Benghazi Victim
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One well placed strobe light would probably troll her campaign for good.
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One well placed strobe light would probably troll her campaign for good.
Oooooo, nasty.
Oooooo, like.
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Badges with flashing LEDs, done.
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One well placed strobe light would probably troll her campaign for good.
I keep seeing this mentioned... Do we think she has epilepsy?
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A strobe plus releasing a couple of hundred balloons might be extra effective. Oh, and everybody jangles their key rings at the same time.
There'd better be an independent camera going so when the MSM video people pan away from her, there will still be a record of how she reacts... you know, like when the VCDL had their own tape recorder going during Katie Couric's "interview."
And, an independent video will be immune to removal for <ahem koff koff> "copyright violations." >:D
ETA: I'm not signing this one so nobody will know who posted it.
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I guess Trump could demand his own riser, but maybe he's better just letting her have her well-publicized cheat - bless her heart. Really showing us how a female candidate can hold her own - if she gets a little extra help. ;/
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I guess Trump could demand his own riser, but maybe he's better just letting her have her well-publicized cheat - bless her heart. Really showing us how a female candidate can hold her own - if she gets a little extra help. ;/
I haven't watched a debate since Ross Perot's VP choice died or was it fell asleep on stage? I may have to watch this one to see if she falls off.
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Need to come up with a drinking game for this debate.
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Need to come up with a drinking game for this debate.
Start drinking now.
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Start drinking now.
Well I've done my job asleep and hung over, probably can do it drunk.
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Well, Hillary has certainly been using an interesting tactic over the last couple of days. Her people are saying the debates are going to be unfair because of the media bias against Hillary (what?!?) and also that people will see the "real Donald" because he won't have the opportunity to do 15 second soundbites and walk away without answering questions (what?!?). Playing the opposites game is one way to do it I guess.
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I'll leave this right here.
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Great cartoon!
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Need to come up with a drinking game for this debate.
Tam posted one on her FB page.
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Gennifer Flowers out, Mark Geist in. Awkward. :)
http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2016/09/26/gennifer-flowers-wont-be-there-but-this-debatenight-guest-of-trumps-might-be-even-more-awkward-for-hillary/
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Gennifer Flowers out, Mark Geist in. Awkward. :)
http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2016/09/26/gennifer-flowers-wont-be-there-but-this-debatenight-guest-of-trumps-might-be-even-more-awkward-for-hillary/
I'd lay odds that HRC has no clue who Geist is, and won't find out during the debate. Net effect on her performance = 0.
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http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/presidential-debate-photos-podiums-released-something-strange/
No word yet on whether Diana Moon Glampers is now managing Hillary's campaign.
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I'll leave this right here.
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I can't find the official rules for the 2016 Presidential Debate Drinking Game. Lots of different competing versions (some of them quite biased, like "take a shot whenever Trump says something racist", but nothing about Hillary lying. Or coughing)
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You take a drink every time a politician lies, and you'll die. If it's Hillary Clinton, you'll be dead before the debate's over.
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2016 Presidential Debate Drinking Game rules:
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Scott Adams has several new posts up about the debates and Trump's strategy. Remember that he was the only guy from way back when who thought Trump would win.
http://blog.dilbert.com/
He will also be live blogging the debates that start in twenty minutes.
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2016 Presidential Debate Drinking Game rules:
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Maybe I shouldn't have had a couple of shots first to get ready. (https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.thehighroad.org%2Fsmilies%2Fuhoh2.gif&hash=429bfa584211080f646c793120f6934883ace207) This could be dangerous.
But if could be worse, to make it 7 vs. 7 they could have added whenever Trump says "huge".
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If they did that there would be a "huge" case of alcohol poisoning around the country tonight.
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If they did that there would be a "huge" case of alcohol poisoning around the country tonight.
My liver will end up regretting this.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jill-stein-escorted-campus-hosting-presidential-debate-article-1.2807399
Looks like Trump didn't invite Jill Stein, either. Neither she nor Johnson made the cutoff to be in the debate. But then, neither did Harambe.
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This just in, Lawrence, KS police ask residents not to drink everytime some one says "yuge".
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I have listened to a a bit of this debate. I think this will be one of those debates where supporters will claim their own candidate won. Unless someone knows about the contemporary history that is mentioned, I am not sure what people would think.
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I have listened to a a bit of this debate. I think this will be one of those debates where supporters will claim their own candidate won. Unless someone knows about the contemporary history that is mentioned, I am not sure what people would think.
The moderator needs a switch to cut the mikes.
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I have listened to a a bit of this debate. I think this will be one of those debates where supporters will claim their own candidate won. Unless someone knows about the contemporary history that is mentioned, I am not sure what people would think.
Agreed. Though I let it buffer for an hour before I started watching so I could hit the FF switch as needed, so I might have missed something.
I have no idea who the moderator is, but I'm catching a Hillary bias from him. Or more accurately, an anti-Trump bias. They're really hammering on the birther thing.
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I have no idea who the moderator is, but I'm catching a Hillary bias from him. Or more accurately, an anti-Trump bias. They're really hammering on the birther thing.
Yes. He interrupted Trump on the stop-and-frisk issue to say that it was found unconstitutional. He continuously pressed Trump on the birther issue, and on his tax returns. He didn't press Hillary on the emails, or any other issues.
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I didn't watch. Drudge's poll is showing 81.5% think Trump won, and 18.5% think Hillary won. But I suppose drudge readers might be a tad biased.
Any objective assessments as to who won?
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I didn't watch. Drudge's poll is showing 81.5% think Trump won, and 18.5% think Hillary won. But I suppose drudge readers might be a tad biased.
Any objective assessments as to who won?
Insty calls it a draw:
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/244899/
I saw some of it and then had family things to do.
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Is it possible they BOTH lost? I came away from the debate not wanting either candidate in the oval office.
I guess it's a bit heartening that Insty is calling it a draw and that Drudge is saying Trump won.
Trump the Terrible was back from the primaries .... versus Hillary with her patronizing plastic smile. Ick.
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http://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/play-presidential-debate-bingo-download-cards-or-play-online/
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I would agree with a draw.
One thing I noticed was watching each candidate as the other spoke. Hillary looked smug, Trump looked annoyed. I thought he handled the birther and tax return stuff well, but flubbed his Iraq war position. He spent like 6-7 minutes being defensive. Made him look a bit weak, especially given that it was something that happened well before he was in politics, so his position either way as a regular citizen shouldn't be as big a deal as Hillary's, who was in politics and actually voted on it.
I was again disappointed the he agreed with Hillary on the guns / watch list issue.
I don't know why he didn't push the email and classified data issue more. He had several good openings. Overall, I think he spent a little too much time on defense and not enough on offense.
EDIT: TommyGunn posted at the same time as me. I can almost agree with him - it was kind of a debate of, "which person is least bad?" Also, if I did the drinking game, I guess I would have been dead from alcohol poisoning somewhere around the 25 minute mark. Maybe earlier given how many times Trump said "China". :laugh:
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I didn't watch. Drudge's poll is showing 81.5% think Trump won, and 18.5% think Hillary won. But I suppose drudge readers might be a tad biased.
Any objective assessments as to who won?
I'm not objective, and I wasn't really paying much attention, but here's my opinion: Lester Holt lost.
I think Hilary won, but not by much. She looked good, and never stumbled or fell apart. That's really all she had to do. (I wanted her to have a seizure or forget where she was or something)
Trump got a few zingers in. But I think he screwed-up bigtime by equating his tax returns with Hilary's emails. He also IMHO should have made a distinction between cutting corporate tax rates and individual income taxes, especially on high-income individuals. Clinton deliberately confused the two. I think Trump also scored some points about blacks and Mexicans living in hell-holes like Chicago.
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I would agree with a draw.
One thing I noticed was watching each candidate as the other spoke. Hillary looked smug, Trump looked annoyed. I thought he handled the birther and tax return stuff well, but flubbed his Iraq war position. He spent like 6-7 minutes being defensive. Made him look a bit weak, especially given that it was something that happened well before he was in politics, so his position either way as a regular citizen shouldn't be as big a deal as Hillary's, who was in politics and actually voted on it.
I was again disappointed the he agreed with Hillary on the guns / watch list issue.
I don't know why he didn't push the email and classified data issue more. He had several good openings. Overall, I think he spent a little too much time on defense and not enough on offense.
EDIT: TommyGunn posted at the same time as me. I can almost agree with him - it was kind of a debate of, "which person is least bad?" Also, if I did the drinking game, I guess I would have been dead from alcohol poisoning somewhere around the 25 minute mark. Maybe earlier given how many times Trump said "China". :laugh:
Yea....unfortunatly I don't think you're going to find a candidate who is going to try to argue that since it will sound like he's saying "it's OK with me if a Jihadi can walk into a Wal Mart and buy a Bushmaster M4orgery and shoot a bunch of people." Now it ISN'T but the people Jay Leno interviewed in those man-on-the -street stuff on late nite TV will not see it.
I wouldn't mind the list itself if it were more accurate .... but mainly, when it comes to jihadis I don't want them on a list, I want them DEAD.
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I'm calling it now people. This election is so much of a joke that in four years we will have to decide between SpongeBob and Megatron.
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I'm calling it now people. This election is so much of a joke that in four years we will have to decide between SpongeBob and Megatron.
You think candidates will improve by that much? Tall order.
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You think candidates will improve by that much? Tall order.
I have faith. The big problem will be that they won't tell us witch one is an r or d until after the nomination.
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Yea....unfortunatly I don't think you're going to find a candidate who is going to try to argue that since it will sound like he's saying "it's OK with me if a Jihadi can walk into a Wal Mart and buy a Bushmaster M4orgery and shoot a bunch of people."
True. Trump did give the caveat that, "if you're wrongly on the list we'll work to get you off it", but even if his intentions on that are good, I think he still doesn't get just what a behemoth gov is in that regard. Fifty forms and a year later you might be off it. Or not. That's given that you even find out you're on it, since it's a secret list.
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I'm calling it now people. This election is so much of a joke that in four years we will have to decide between SpongeBob and Megatron.
Duh, Megatron. Only pansy doves vote for SpongeBob...
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jill-stein-escorted-campus-hosting-presidential-debate-article-1.2807399
Looks like Trump didn't invite Jill Stein, either. Neither she nor Johnson made the cutoff to be in the debate. But then, neither did Harambe.
She actually tried to get into the debate but was escorted away.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/jill-stein-presidential-debate-police-hofstra-university/
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True. Trump did give the caveat that, "if you're wrongly on the list we'll work to get you off it", but even if his intentions on that are good, I think he still doesn't get just what a behemoth gov is in that regard. Fifty forms and a year later you might be off it. Or not. That's given that you even find out you're on it, since it's a secret list.
although with Trump, many stated positions are just opening bids. If that is as far as he is willing to go as an opening bid and the compromise is something closer to what we could accept then it isn't all bad.
Most Repuiblicans take a hard stance and then completely fold during crunch time. That doesn't seem to be Trumps style.
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She actually tried to get into the debate but was escorted away.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/jill-stein-presidential-debate-police-hofstra-university/
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Well, I'm glad Trump didn't self destruct last night.
Even if I can't muster up the motivation to vote for him I certainly don't want Hillary to be President.
I had read in a blog warnings about Hillary doing a "broken wing" act heading into the debate so that all she had to do was look alive, coherent and able to stand on her own in order to get a "win" out of the debate.
Then of course in order for Trump to score a win all he had to do was exercise enough self control over his mouth to not make more trouble for himself, comforting those on the fence that he isn't always out of control like a WWF wrestler.
So we have the decrepit, corrupt war mongering globalist vs the nationalist crony capitalist carnival barker.
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although with Trump, many stated positions are just opening bids. If that is as far as he is willing to go as an opening bid and the compromise is something closer to what we could accept then it isn't all bad.
That sounds backward to me.
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I'm calling it now people. This election is so much of a joke that in four years we will have to decide between SpongeBob and Megatron.
Megatron 2020!
He better not pick Starscream as his running mate, though
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I'm just curious as to how many in each parties' leadership are now wanting a do over on picking a candidate.
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I call it a draw, and Lester Holt should be kicked in the balls.
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That sounds backward to me.
yea, in hindsight it is backwards. Pre coffee posting, lol.
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I call it a draw, and Lester Holt should be kicked in the balls.
He's a liberal Democrat. Do you actually think he has any to kick?
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The MSM won the debate, and that directly translates to an HRC win. She is already reclaiming lost ground in most polls post debate.
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I call it a draw, and Lester Holt should be kicked in the balls.
Someone needs to kick Trump in the balls.
I would guarantee a win for him if he were to listen to me and all I would ask for is an ambassadorship or name me SECDEF.
Can you imagine a retired E6 as SECDEF? Imagine how many flag officers would *expletive deleted*it themselves.
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Can you imagine a retired E6 as SECDEF? Imagine how many flag officers would *expletive deleted*it themselves.
In Grunt Heaven, there is a peep hole into Hell where Flag Os who lacked the spine to stand up for their men get to push Georgia for eternity. While on fire.
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I call it a draw, and Lester Holt should be kicked in the balls.
This, if they can be found.
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Well, I'm glad Trump didn't self destruct last night.
Even if I can't muster up the motivation to vote for him I certainly don't want Hillary to be President.
I had read in a blog warnings about Hillary doing a "broken wing" act heading into the debate so that all she had to do was look alive, coherent and able to stand on her own in order to get a "win" out of the debate.
Then of course in order for Trump to score a win all he had to do was exercise enough self control over his mouth to not make more trouble for himself, comforting those on the fence that he isn't always out of control like a WWF wrestler.
So we have the decrepit, corrupt war mongering globalist vs the nationalist crony capitalist carnival barker.
Yeah, he needs to be given credit for this being his first presidential debate at this level, and also for the bias imbalance. I think Holt did the "fact check" thing to Trump at least four times, and that was for "Trump issues", like the birther thing, that Holt himself brought up.
AFAIK, Holt did not fact check Clinton a single time, nor did he hit her with the classified data issue, where we have plenty of evidence, including from Comey, that she lied, and nothing about Benghazi and the video. Not to mention any of the other obvious targets.
While Trump came off as on the defensive, there was a reason for most of that. As I mentioned in my post above, I think the only time he came off as overly defensive was on his Iraq war position, which he should have just waved off. I'm sure he and his team will correct that in the next debate, and I suspect he's a fast learner, so the tables may turn.
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I have a feeling that after the VP debate on the 4th a lot of people are going to wish that they were the POTUS candidates.
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He's a liberal Democrat. Do you actually think he has any to kick?
Interestingly enough, he is actually a registered Republican.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trump-clinton-debate-updates-a-lie-would-mean-he-knew-the-man-s-1474895246-htmlstory.html
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The MSM won the debate, and that directly translates to an HRC win. She is already reclaiming lost ground in most polls post debate.
I don't know, I see plenty of press saying that Holt failed because he didn't control trump, so using the logic of "if the press is angry at the moderator, it was bad for Hillary", that's telling.
ESPECIALLY since Holt actually was somewhat biased in question topics, "fact checking", and interrupting (he interrupted trump ~2x the amount on Hillary).
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Is it possible they BOTH lost? I came away from the debate not wanting either candidate in the oval office.
Pretty much. I bailed after an hour.
I guess it's a bit heartening that Insty is calling it a draw and that Drudge is saying Trump won.
Trump the Terrible was back from the primaries .... versus Hillary with her patronizing plastic smile. Ick.
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Interestingly enough, he is actually a registered Republican.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trump-clinton-debate-updates-a-lie-would-mean-he-knew-the-man-s-1474895246-htmlstory.html
I don't care what he's registered as, biased POS showed his colors.
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I don't know, I see plenty of press saying that Holt failed because he didn't control trump, so using the logic of "if the press is angry at the moderator, it was bad for Hillary", that's telling.
ESPECIALLY since Holt actually was somewhat biased in question topics, "fact checking", and interrupting (he interrupted trump ~2x the amount on Hillary).
Holt hit Trump with six follow-ups, versus zero for Hillary.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/in-debate-trump-gets-6-follow-up-questions-clinton-gets-none/article/2602939
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So my first thought was that Trump will be able to correct for stuff in debate #2, but I just learned it's actually a town hall debate. That will be completely different. I'm kinda 50/50 on how Trump will do in it. Sometimes he does well in that sort of format, and sometimes he puts his foot in his mouth.
I think it will also depend on how spontaneous the questions from the audience are. I think Trump does much better at spur of the moment and "gotchya" than Hillary does (ref: her not having press conferences).
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So my first thought was that Trump will be able to correct for stuff in debate #2, but I just learned it's actually a town hall debate. That will be completely different. I'm kinda 50/50 on how Trump will do in it. Sometimes he does well in that sort of format, and sometimes he puts his foot in his mouth.
I think it will also depend on how spontaneous the questions from the audience are. I think Trump does much better at spur of the moment and "gotchya" than Hillary does (ref: her not having press conferences).
I'm sure the questions will be screened prior to the event and anything that is asked that isn't pre-approved will be shut down post haste.
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I'm sure the questions will be screened prior to the event and anything that is asked that isn't pre-approved will be shut down post haste.
Yeah, I'm sure they generally screen them, but I think questions have slipped through in past debates, or at least approved questions were somewhat reworded IIRC.
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Reports that Hillary was given debate questions in advance.
http://theblacksphere.net/2016/09/hillary-clinton-got-debate-questions-advance/