Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on November 08, 2016, 06:38:26 PM
-
My confession - I am a hypocrite.
I made a pretty big deal around here this time around about almost certainly doing a write-in vote. I was actually still up in the air and leaning that way until the last minute. Clinton getting off on the national security stuff, and being absolutely smug about it, plus all the wikileaks stuff was my last straw. I put in the FU vote for Trump.
I still don't believe Trump will make a good president (I would love for him to prove me wrong). I just decided that I had to vote against Clinton. I had to vote against the establishment (both R&D). I had to vote for shaking up the system. A small percentage of my vote for Trump was an FU to the establishment R's that said I should vote for Clinton instead of third party or write-in.
-
I couldn't do it. I couldn't vote for either of them, my conscious doesn't allow it. I wrote in Mickey and Donald. Doesn't matter, Trump is certainly going to take Montana's 3 electoral votes.
-
This was my first election voting "against". Before, I voted for a third party or wrote-in or abstained. But I also didn't live in a swing state then.
-
With ya buddy, I wimped out and did the FU vote and voted for Trump.
I wasn't even sure how it was going to go down when I walked in the building, although I'd been rationalizing it very heavily the last couple days.
The main difference between today and other lesser of two evil votes I've made in the past is that I'm not really invested in the Republicans at all. It was an FU to them as much as it was to the Dems and the media.
I voted for disruption.
-
I voted for Gary Johnson, I voted against the 2 party system.
Both parties can take a long trip to hell on a burning garbage barge.
-
I voted for Gary Johnson, I voted against the 2 party system.
Both parties can take a long trip to hell on a burning garbage barge.
It felt wonderful to vote against Mark Kirk. I voted L on that one.
-
This time around, I have no problem with anyone who voted for anybody but Clinton. I normally respect any vote anyone makes, no matter how much I disagree with it, and respected the votes of anyone who voted for Obama the last couple of times. Heck, I even respected votes for Jimmy Carter that time around. :)
I just don't think I can forgive a Hillary Clinton vote.
-
I voted for Gary Johnson, I voted against the 2 party system.
Both parties can take a long trip to hell on a burning garbage barge.
That was my vote. If this election cycle has proven anything, it's that the two parties ruling this country are crap and need to go.
-
My confession - I am a hypocrite.
I made a pretty big deal around here this time around about almost certainly doing a write-in vote. I was actually still up in the air and leaning that way until the last minute. Clinton getting off on the national security stuff, and being absolutely smug about it, plus all the wikileaks stuff was my last straw. I put in the FU vote for Trump.
I still don't believe Trump will make a good president (I would love for him to prove me wrong). I just decided that I had to vote against Clinton. I had to vote against the establishment (both R&D). I had to vote for shaking up the system. A small percentage of my vote for Trump was an FU to the establishment R's that said I should vote for Clinton instead of third party or write-in.
Pretty much were I ended up, what with the weirdness coming from the current L. candidates. Not happy about it.
I voted for disruption.
I've been telling folks that I voted for the "brick through the windshield". Everyone has gotten it. Even the Bernie man I was chatting with after early voting Saturday didn't seem to have a problem with it.
-
Early on I was convinced Trump was a Hillary stalking horse.
-
It felt wonderful to vote against Mark Kirk. I voted L on that one.
**** yeah!
Mu usual rules applied. L. if possible, R. if not, blank if unopposed. D. only in very strange circumstances.
-
**** yeah!
Mu usual rules applied. L. if possible, R. if not, blank if unopposed. D. only in very strange circumstances.
That's a nice system. Add "Vote out the incumbent" and you've got a winner!
-
This time around, I have no problem with anyone who voted for anybody but Clinton. I normally respect any vote anyone makes, no matter how much I disagree with it, and respected the votes of anyone who voted for Obama the last couple of times. Heck, I even respected votes for Jimmy Carter that time around. :)
I just don't think I can forgive a Hillary Clinton vote.
I'm with you. I respect anyone who votes their conscience. And, I believe Jimmy Carter is a good person, just not a great president. I voted 3rd party. Trump didn't earn my vote. Clinton...no way.
-
Trump didn't earn my vote. Clinton...no way.
Believe me Chris, he didn't earn mine either. He was just the vehicle of my "brick through the windshield" as Lee so aptly put it.
Though I will give him credit for a sound economic policy.
-
Believe me Chris, he didn't earn mine either. He was just the vehicle of my "brick through the windshield" as Lee so aptly put it.
Though I will give him credit for a sound economic policy.
I honestly don't think Trump will turn out nearly as bad a President as Clinton will. For all he is an obnoxious jerk, I really don't hate him. He just has always come across to me as a buffoon and inspires more facepalm from me than fear or hate.
If anything, I'm pretty ambivalent towards him and I do hope he wins, since Pure Evil is the other option.
However, for me, the most important issue in this election is not the issues of two parties, but the two parties themselves. So that's how I voted. *shrug* I hope the overall combined number of third party and write in's is big and gets some real attention this time around. I think that's more important than the R and D numbers.
-
I'm with you. I respect anyone who votes their conscience. And, I believe Jimmy Carter is a good person, just not a great president. I voted 3rd party. Trump didn't earn my vote. Clinton...no way.
Meh, i disagree.
We live in the real world not one of athens' sophist salons. If your state is almost certainly to swing one way, one more vote wont matter. Vote for bozo the clown.
If your state is in play and you dont try to thwart the greater evil for fear of sullying your hands you might as well join the ranks of ineffectual *let's not go there* with rod dreher, a man who will never accomplish anything close to his objectives because he will always find a reason for inaction due to the impurity of allies or imperfection of execution.
The real world is messy. Dont let that mess or the evil enemy twist your values into the garrot they will use to strangle you.
-
Meh, i disagree.
We live in the real world not one of athens' sophist salons. If your state is almost certainly to swing one way, one more vote wont matter. Vote for bozo the clown.
If your state is in play and you dont try to thwart the greater evil for fear of sullying your hands you might as well join the ranks of ineffectual *let's not go there* with rod dreher, a man who will never accomplish anything close to his objectives because he will always find a reason for inaction due to the impurity of allies or imperfection of execution.
The real world is messy. Dont let that mess or the evil enemy twist your values into the garrot they will use to strangle you.
I'm not sure where you are going with this. First, you're all like "world is messy, vote for lesser of two evils!!" and then you rant about not letting mess or evil enemy twist your values?
I can safely say that I voted based on my values despite the mess.
I also think if more people would vote with there values and not for the lesser of two evils, the real world wouldn't be so messy at the moment.
-
I'm not sure where you are going with this. First, you're all like "world is messy, vote for lesser of two evils!!" and then you rant about not letting mess or evil enemy twist your values?
I can safely say that I voted based on my values despite the mess.
I also think if more people would vote with there values and not for the lesser of two evils, the real world wouldn't be so messy at the moment.
Example
Team A..."I will not fight on sunday because i prefer to keep it holy."
Team B...Attacks on sunday, slaughters Team As men and boys, and enslaves and rapes their women and girls.
Dont be Team A.
-
Example
Team A..."I will not fight on sunday because i prefer to keep it holy."
Team B...Attacks on sunday, slaughters Team As men and boys, and enslaves and rapes their women and girls.
Dont be Team A.
Or Team A could say, "I won't start a fight on Sunday, but I reserve the right to defend myself with force should I be attacked on a holy day."
I'm not starting a fight, but be damn if I won't finish one if you bring it to my door.
Your assumption about Team A's values is telling.
-
Utah gave a big FU to everyone with McMullen getting 21% of the vote.
-
I had no problem voting Trump as I had no idea which way my state was going to swing and I knew it would be close.
Its a lot easier to vote 3rd party in places like California, New york, or Utah where there is an overwhelming majority going one way.
-
I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. He didn't earn my vote.
I did hope he would win and NOW, I hope he can earn my vote in 2020.
So thank you to all who rolled the dice on him.
-
Well, people have been talking about running government like a business for decades. Now we have a businessman in the White House.
-
As a hypocrite, Ben, you're just a rookie. You can't possibly match Hillary for hypocrisy:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-we-owe-donald-trump-an-open-mind-172243272.html
Clinton, flanked by her husband, Bill Clinton, and running mate, Tim Kaine, said the country must “cherish” and defend its constitutional rights.
...
“Our democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power,” Clinton said. “We don’t just respect that, we cherish it. It also enshrines other things: the rule of law, the principle that we are all equal in rights and dignity, freedom of worship and expression. We respect and cherish these values too, and we must defend them.”
...
She concluded her remarks with a biblical passage, quoting from Galatians 6:9: “Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.”
Take a lesson from a master ...