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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on December 09, 2016, 06:28:00 PM
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I look forward to this. I will be interested to see if I can end up saving any money.
MEDICAL NEWS | PHYSICIAN'S FIRST WATCH
December 8, 2016
Over-the-Counter Hearing Aids Could Be on the Way
By Kristin J. Kelley
Edited by Susan Sadoughi, MD, and Richard Saitz, MD, MPH, FACP, FASAM
The FDA announced plans on Wednesday to consider making over-the-counter hearing aids available.
In addition, the FDA put out guidance that says that it doesn't intend to enforce its rule requiring adults to sign a waiver or receive a medical evaluation before purchasing hearing aids.
The actions follow recommendations made in 2015 by the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology and results of a study published over the summer by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.
Additionally, two senators — Elizabeth Warren (D-Massachusetts) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) — have sponsored new legislation to make some types of hearing aids available over the counter at a lower cost. Individual hearing aids currently on the market can run over $2000.
LINK(S):
FDA news release (Free)
Sen. Warren's news release (Free)
President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology report (Free PDF)
NAS report (Free)
Background: Physician's First Watch coverage of hearing loss and diabetes (Free)
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What?!
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What?!
THE FDA IS GOING TO MAGNANIMOUSLY ALLOW SOME OVER THE COUNTER HEARING AIDS.
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It is only seven years later.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/16/well/hearing-aids-over-the-counter.html
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Reply #5's reference:
As many as 30 million Americans have some trouble hearing, but few can afford to pay for doctors’ exams and prescription hearing aids — and most insurance plans don’t cover them. According to the Food and Drug Administration, only about one-fifth of Americans with hearing loss get help.
The F.D.A. has now taken a final step that could put more accessible, and potentially less expensive, hearing aids in stores by the fall. People seeking out hearing aids will no longer have to be examined by a doctor first.
What? No prescription needed? Why, the FDA is cutting right into Medicine's rice bowl !
After all, Medicine is a Business!
What the hell's the matter with the FDA anyhow ?
Sheesh !
Terry, 230RN
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I'm surprised that nobody has done an app with bluetooth headphones/in-ear things to set frequency curves/cuts/boosts... Equalizers have been around forever.
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Looks like Big Belltone is losing it's political punch.
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I'm surprised that nobody has done an app with bluetooth headphones/in-ear things to set frequency curves/cuts/boosts... Equalizers have been around forever.
I think they do some of that. one of my brother in laws has a fancy set of hearing aids. Bluetooth connected to his phone and they can be "tuned".
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You can already buy such devices on the grey market as "hearing enhancers (for novelty use only)"--think about the electronic shooting plugs at Cabela's, but a bit fancier. This basically just makes the grey market white and allows them to be sold in pharmacies, advertised specifically for hearing loss, etc. It's a good move altogether.
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I’ve never understood why so many things, including glasses, chiropractors, etc are required to be covered by health insurance but hearing aids are excluded.
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I’ve never understood why so many things, including glasses, chiropractors, etc are required to be covered by health insurance but hearing aids are excluded.
Can you imagine how much more expensive already expensive hearing aids would become if they suddenly were covered by insurance?
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It's obvious why...the government doesn't want them covered by insurance because they don't want them covered by Medicare. It would (further) bankrupt Medicare. I know they usual look out for each other but this time their cronies in the Medical Industrial Complex will just have to take a hit this time.
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Can you imagine how much more expensive already expensive hearing aids would become if they suddenly were covered by insurance?
Didn’t say it would be a good thing, just surprised it was never done.
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I, for one, appreciate paying $ 3000-6000 out of pocket every three to four years for a set of hearing aids.
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I purchased 2 different sets of hearing aids for Swmbo from companies online. Both in the hundreds of dollars...don't recall the actual prices but under $1000. Both brands were being heavily advertised on TV. Didn't need an Rx. She tried both sets and we sent them back. She said the sound she heard was very metallic sounding and when she spoke, her own voice sounded, in her head, as if she was in a cave...all echoes. She was told she'd get used to it. She said no thanks.
I spoke with a couple friends who have the really pricy ones from a doctor. They both said the echo thing when speaking was with theirs as well.
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Can you imagine how much more expensive already expensive hearing aids would become if they suddenly were covered by insurance?
<editorial prompted by the root subject of the thread>
I said it before and I'll say it here:
(1) Insurance only increases the cost of services. Service providers increase their prices because "insurance is paying for it," and we, thee and me, don't care because "insurance is paying for it."
(2) Insurance is the biggest racket in the world, especially if it is legally mandated. Have a claim? (a) They increase your rates; (b) they increase the rates in your area or type of coverage; (c) insurance commisioners for your state are usually in the insurance business themselves. Foxes guarding the henhouse.
It's the biggest racket in the world.
They are not in the business of paying claims. They are in the business of collecting premiums.
</editorial prompted by the root subject of the thread>
I've said it all before.
Terry, 230RN
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I, for one, appreciate paying $ 3000-6000 out of pocket every three to four years for a set of hearing aids.
If covered by insurance we’d all be paying an extra $500 per year. Or you’d be paying an extra $2000/year. Sure, it wouldn’t be “out of pocket” but they’d get their pound of flesh one way or another.
At work I have the choice of 4 different premium levels for the same insurance coverage. Only difference (other than premium) is the deductible and out of pocket maximums. The least expensive overall version is the lowest premium, and highest potential out of pocket plan, unless 2 or more people have very substantial expenses in a given year. Family out of pocket max is equivalent to 2 individual maximums. Hit that and then the highest premium is the better plan. Otherwise the HSA eligible plan is best. The crossover is around the point where 1 person has hit their individual max and the rest of the family is collectively at around 2/3 or so of hitting the remaining family maximum.
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There are hearing amplifiers on the market for under $100 a pair. They are not "hearing aids" that are tuned to your specific loss, just amplify the ambient sound. How they got allowed to call themselves hearing aids is beyond me. Even high dollar actual prescribed hearing aids are virtually useless unless set for the individual wearing them. It took me almost a year and a half to get the VA to finally set my high dollar, bluetooth, phone program tunable aids to my loss.