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Title: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: wmenorr67 on December 19, 2016, 01:29:35 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-shot-in-ankara.html

Russian ambassador to Turkey was murdered by a Islamic extremist.  Waiting on Putin's response.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: HankB on December 19, 2016, 02:08:34 PM
Was the shooter provoked by an Internet video?
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: charby on December 19, 2016, 02:20:16 PM
This isn't going to end well.
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Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 19, 2016, 02:32:05 PM
Response is likely to be something that will make even the Israelis go " damn"

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Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on December 19, 2016, 02:32:44 PM
Response is likely to be something that will make even the Israelis go " damn"

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This....   Russia is not exactly known for "moderation".
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Scout26 on December 19, 2016, 02:40:27 PM
This....   Russia is not exactly known for "moderation".

I predict just not the shooters immediate family, but pretty much his entire tribe will pay for this crime..
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: roo_ster on December 19, 2016, 03:09:42 PM
This....   Russia is not exactly known for "moderation".

Not true.  They "moderate" their vodka consumption by passing out when they've had enough.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Triphammer on December 19, 2016, 03:13:41 PM
Didn't some "Islamic Extremist" kill a Prussian dignitary in Sarajevo and kick off that whole 1914 brouhaha?
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 19, 2016, 03:14:43 PM
I guess now we get to find out if Trump will, or will not, keep us in NATO.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: roo_ster on December 19, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Didn't some "Islamic Extremist" kill a Prussian dignitary in Sarajevo and kick off that whole 1914 brouhaha?

Serbian (Eastern Rite Christian) assassin.  Austrian Archduke victim.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Jamisjockey on December 19, 2016, 03:28:03 PM
Wonder what the Vegas odds of this kicking off a new shooting match are....  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: brimic on December 19, 2016, 03:33:13 PM
I guess now we get to find out if Trump will, or will not, keep us in NATO.

Better yet, kick turkey out of NATO.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 19, 2016, 03:39:14 PM
This isn't going to end well.

This.  Russia doesn't just shrug off murdered ambassadors like we do.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: lupinus on December 19, 2016, 03:41:55 PM
Better yet, kick turkey out of NATO.
Ding ding ding we has a winner
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Triphammer on December 19, 2016, 03:46:52 PM
Rooster,
 Thanks for the clarification. I've been mistaken for some time.".
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 19, 2016, 03:48:54 PM
Serbian (Eastern Rite Christian) assassin.  Austrian Archduke victim.


Just for the sake of clarity, you're not saying the Archduke was a victim of Orthodoxist extremism, are you?
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Ben on December 19, 2016, 03:57:20 PM
This.  Russia doesn't just shrug off murdered ambassadors like we do.


Yup. The standard caveat about Putin's history, but notice he isn't talking about going to the UN, calling meetings, looking to see what video set this off, or sending out hashtags. His statement today said that they are "taking revenge".

It's the kind of thing that keeps to a minimum people from F'ing with you. It's actually what I'd like to see come from our leaders, Mattis style vs Putin style, in similar circumstances.
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Post by: zxcvbob on December 19, 2016, 06:16:54 PM
Response is likely to be something that will make even the Israelis go " damn"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QTn73mNzAs&feature=youtu.be&t=1m40s  One of the best "Dayum"s in all of cinema.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: freakazoid on December 19, 2016, 06:23:34 PM
With the Thanksgiving not that long ago, I was thinking something different about a turkey ambassador being murdered. I am disappoint.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 19, 2016, 07:26:53 PM
Better yet, kick turkey out of NATO.

I be down wit dat.
Title: Re: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: roo_ster on December 19, 2016, 07:56:06 PM

Just for the sake of clarity, you're not saying the Archduke was a victim of Orthodoxist extremism, are you?
Nope, but icon understand why you might think that.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: MechAg94 on December 19, 2016, 10:46:07 PM
Better yet, kick turkey out of NATO.
What I would expect to see is Turkey doing the revenge thing for Russia.  If they try to drag us in, then yes, kick them out of NATO. 

Didn't the Turkish leader just fight off a reported coup attempt and proceed to seize more power?
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 20, 2016, 12:01:52 AM
Didn't the Turkish leader just fight off a reported coup attempt and proceed to seize more power?

Yes, and yes. And he continues to grab more and more power on virtually a weekly basis. But he's an Islamist -- don't expect much help from him.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: De Selby on December 20, 2016, 12:04:54 AM
Turkey and Russia made friends, you're smoking if you think this is going to bring them to war or that the Russians are going to bomb anywhere other than Syria over it.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 20, 2016, 01:39:22 AM
Turkey and Russia made friends, you're smoking if you think this is going to bring them to war or that the Russians are going to bomb anywhere other than Syria over it.

Why would Russia bomb Syria (more) when it was a Turkish police officer who killed the ambassador?
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: De Selby on December 20, 2016, 05:46:33 AM
Why would Russia bomb Syria (more) when it was a Turkish police officer who killed the ambassador?

Rebel connection
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: RevDisk on December 20, 2016, 08:58:10 AM
Turkey and Russia made friends, you're smoking if you think this is going to bring them to war or that the Russians are going to bomb anywhere other than Syria over it.

It's a bit more complex than that. The current strongman is friendly with Russia. Turkey historically and as a country isn't always. Remember that they are a NATO country and within living memory allowed us to stage strategic nuclear weapons there.

Or the minor fact that Turkey 'owns' bit under a hundred US nuclear warheads under the NATO nuke sharing program. They can't be armed without codes from the US, but they administratively own nuclear weapons without needing a domestic nuclear program and without some of the other downsides of having a nuclear weapons program. They get the latest US nuclear weapons, the B61.

Do concur that they'll use this against Syria. It does help their cause that the police officer made statements on tape that the assassination was over Russian involvement in Syria.


As for the folks saying we need to kick Turkey out of NATO, I'll remind everyone, Incirlik Air Base. It's been a strategic facility for sixty years.
Title: Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Murdered
Post by: makattak on December 20, 2016, 11:32:14 AM
Rebel connection

Rebel scum.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aspp1r0tS4)