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Title: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Fly320s on March 30, 2017, 08:17:35 PM
Looks like a fire caused a partial collapse.

Live feed: http://www.cbs46.com/category/213030/breaking-news-live-stream

And story: http://www.cbs46.com/story/35036795/major-fire-breaks-out-on-i-85-in-atlanta
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 30, 2017, 10:19:28 PM
Boy, I bet they're going to have some heavy traffic now. (Atlanta always has heavy traffic)
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Jocassee on March 30, 2017, 11:12:51 PM
Seems to have been a bunch of PVC that went up. Accident or arson?
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 31, 2017, 12:33:41 AM
There was something like that in or near White Plains, NY, several years ago. A gasoline tanker lost control and crashed into the supporting abutment for an overpass above one of the interstates. He hit the abutment in the median. Truck caught fire, and basically melted the bridge.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: TechMan on March 31, 2017, 05:33:21 AM
Boy, I bet they're going to have some heavy traffic now. (Atlanta always has heavy traffic)

Holy heck they do have heavy traffic.  My question is do they ever not have heavy traffic?
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Fly320s on March 31, 2017, 07:09:46 AM
Holy heck they do have heavy traffic.  My question is do they ever not have heavy traffic?

Yes.  Between 0200 and 0215 on odd numbered Thursdays.   
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 31, 2017, 07:48:03 AM
Report I listened to over night said it could take more than 6 months to get it back in service.
It can be done faster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40_bridge_disaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40_bridge_disaster)
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: TechMan on March 31, 2017, 07:49:32 AM
Yes.  Between 0200 and 0215 on odd numbered Thursdays.   

Thank you...I will make note of that.  :lol:
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: BobR on March 31, 2017, 08:56:21 AM
Is Atlanta a sanctuary city?   >:D



bob
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: TechMan on March 31, 2017, 09:18:03 AM
Is Atlanta a sanctuary city?   >:D



bob

No according to Wikipedia:
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Georgia banned "sanctuary cities" in 2009, and in 2016 went further by requiring local governments, in order to obtain state funding, to certify that they cooperate with federal immigration officials
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 31, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
Holy heck they do have heavy traffic.  My question is do they ever not have heavy traffic?

I go to Atlanta at least once a month, and have been for four years. I have a theory. Nobody in Atlanta actually has a home. They drive 24 hours a day. They stop for gas and food, and then start driving the interstate around the city again.

No matter what hour of the day or night I drive there, it's always nuts. I asked someone about the traffic, and he said, "well, Atlanta has three different interstates (85, 75 and 20) coming together)". Chicago has seven converging on the city, and Chicago traffic isn't as bad as Atlanta's. And Atlanta's pavement is much, much better than Chicago's, and doesn't have the constant construction.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: HankB on March 31, 2017, 09:29:30 AM
Hmmm. . . road trouble in Atlanta, could take a LONG time to sort out.

So . . . in order to facilitate traditional thread drift . . . a while back, I read that Atlanta was filing suit against some suburbs seeking to "disincorporate" them so they could then annex - AND TAX! - the residents. Never heard more about it, but at the time, Atlanta's leaders were claiming it would be "racist" not to allow them to annex and grab money from other communities.

Think they'll somehow try to use the expense of this road disaster as an excuse to begin agitating for annexation again?
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: K Frame on March 31, 2017, 10:10:15 AM
Happened in Virginia some years ago, and also happened near where I grew up in Pennsylvania a couple of years ago. Really caused problems in both cases.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: wmenorr67 on March 31, 2017, 10:21:01 AM
I remember several years back when a barge got loose on the Arkansas River and crashed into a bridge in Oklahoma and brought it down.  A few lives were lost in that tragedy.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: MechAg94 on March 31, 2017, 10:21:37 AM
Report I listened to over night said it could take more than 6 months to get it back in service.
It can be done faster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40_bridge_disaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-40_bridge_disaster)
If they make it a priority, it won't be near that long.  The question in my mind is how much damage did the fire do to other parts of the bridge.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: MechAg94 on March 31, 2017, 10:23:14 AM
I heard some commentary on the radio this morning.  They asked where everyone goes to the bathroom while they are stuck on the highway for hours at a time?  I imagine there were a lot of personal emergencies people had to deal with.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Fly320s on March 31, 2017, 12:14:53 PM
Think they'll somehow try to use the expense of this road disaster as an excuse to begin agitating for annexation again?

Yes, if they can.

I thought interstates were federally funded via gas tax.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: KD5NRH on March 31, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
No matter what hour of the day or night I drive there, it's always nuts. I asked someone about the traffic, and he said, "well, Atlanta has three different interstates (85, 75 and 20) coming together)".

DFW has 20, 30 and then 35 splits so both cities can have its misery, (plus loops 820 and 635) and yet only 35W north of FW and 35E in downtown Dallas are anywhere near Atlanta's level of mess.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: makattak on March 31, 2017, 04:22:15 PM
I go to Atlanta at least once a month, and have been for four years. I have a theory. Nobody in Atlanta actually has a home. They drive 24 hours a day. They stop for gas and food, and then start driving the interstate around the city again.

No matter what hour of the day or night I drive there, it's always nuts. I asked someone about the traffic, and he said, "well, Atlanta has three different interstates (85, 75 and 20) coming together)". Chicago has seven converging on the city, and Chicago traffic isn't as bad as Atlanta's. And Atlanta's pavement is much, much better than Chicago's, and doesn't have the constant construction.

Chicago has mostly mid-westerners driving on its interstates. Atlanta has mostly Georgians.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 31, 2017, 04:28:31 PM
Shall we troll the Democrats by telling them Trump was right again?
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Devonai on March 31, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
So . . . in order to facilitate traditional thread drift . . . a while back, I read that Atlanta was filing suit against some suburbs seeking to "disincorporate" them so they could then annex - AND TAX! - the residents. Never heard more about it, but at the time, Atlanta's leaders were claiming it would be "racist" not to allow them to annex and grab money from other communities.

Do you want an armed conflict?  Because this is how you get an armed conflict.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 31, 2017, 07:45:19 PM
Hmmm. . . road trouble in Atlanta, could take a LONG time to sort out.

So . . . in order to facilitate traditional thread drift . . . a while back, I read that Atlanta was filing suit against some suburbs seeking to "disincorporate" them so they could then annex - AND TAX! - the residents. Never heard more about it, but at the time, Atlanta's leaders were claiming it would be "racist" not to allow them to annex and grab money from other communities.

Think they'll somehow try to use the expense of this road disaster as an excuse to begin agitating for annexation again?


This is something St. Louis (a city which is also a county) keeps trying to do with St. Louis County (the county from which the city seceded in the 1870s).
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 31, 2017, 09:46:44 PM
The small town in live outside of has made comments about annexing the area I live in. They have nothing to offer my neighborhood except additional taxes. We've had to remind them they don't really want us involved in city business. So far that's been enough.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: BobR on April 01, 2017, 02:05:52 AM
Looks like they have arrested three transients for setting the fire. So far they have only released their first names; William, Tecumseh and Sherman.   ;)


If only... :)


bob


Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 01, 2017, 05:05:25 PM
Looks like they have arrested three transients for setting the fire. So far they have only released their first names; William, Tecumseh and Sherman.   ;)


If only... :)


bob


Teach a man to build a fire and he'll be warm ... until the highway collapses.
Title: Re: I-85 bridge collapse in Atlanta
Post by: just Warren on April 01, 2017, 10:28:39 PM
I aw a news story where some fatty public safety trough-feeder was going on about it's going to take a long time to repair and how ATL folks are just going to have to adjust.

I remember that when the Northridge earthquake struck L.A. we lost a section of the 10 FWY and it was estimated it would take two years to fix. Gov. Pete Wilson demanded the fwy be repaired in months rather than years and offered a bonus and waived all red tape to get it done. And it was.

It's one of the few times I've ever been happy with a politician.

So Blimpie McGrubby has to step up his game.

Also couldn't Army engineers bridge that gap in a matter of hours with a structure that can take the weight of tanks? So it would support trucks no problem. So you could get some use out of it.

Repair one lane in both directions while using the the temporary bridge then do the other lanes.