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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Viking on April 07, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
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Truck plows into department store, leaving atleast 5 dead. There are also reports of shots being fired close-ish to the scene.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39531108
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It appears that motor vehicles are the new weapon of choice for terrorists in urban areas. How many is this now? Paris, London, Columbus, this one? Scary. Keep yourself alert out in public, boys and girls.
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It appears that motor vehicles are the new weapon of choice for terrorists in urban areas. How many is this now? Paris, London, Columbus, this one? Scary. Keep yourself alert out in public, boys and girls.
Berlin, Nice.
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Kind of makes you think about your concealed handgun selection when carrying the threat might come from a motor vehicle. I thought I remember at least one podcast guy talk about 10mm instead of smaller guns. Hard to say how one of those people would react if bullets started coming through the windshield.
Wasn't there at least one guy at Nice, France that actually got in the vehicle with the terrorist, but was unable to stop him?
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Kind of makes you think about your concealed handgun selection when carrying the threat might come from a motor vehicle. I thought I remember at least one podcast guy talk about 10mm instead of smaller guns. Hard to say how one of those people would react if bullets started coming through the windshield.
It does. My thought is that getting out of the way may be the only real option. Since these guys tend to drive until the vehicle stops, then come out swinging a machete, gotta think that getting out of the way of the truck is Step 1, and Step 2 is to watch for the guy playing Zorro when the truck/car stops.
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It does. My thought is that getting out of the way may be the only real option. Since these guys tend to drive until the vehicle stops, then come out swinging a machete, gotta think that getting out of the way of the truck is Step 1, and Step 2 is to watch for the guy playing Zorro when the truck/car stops.
I think it really depends on how much time you have to react. (210 foot rule?).
If you have time to draw and fire before or while getting out of the way, it ought to help the situation.
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If you have time to draw and fire before or while getting out of the way, it ought to help the situation.
That could go very poorly. Who's to say it's a terrorist attack? What happens if you fire upon a vehicle, only to later discover the driver was having a seizure or something?
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Spoke with Jeanette, she's safe. Was out sick today, friend of hers was in the middle of it but got out ok.
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That could go very poorly. Who's to say it's a terrorist attack? What happens if you fire upon a vehicle, only to later discover the driver was having a seizure or something?
Good point. If you are one of the first, you might not be able to tell. If you are further back and see the driver swerving to hit people, that is different.
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Death toll seems to be 4, along with 15 injured.
One person arrested, a 39-year old man from Uzbekistan, who has previously expressed sympathies for ISIS. Apparently, he's already confessed.
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Meanwhile, the teevee was on in the shop at the shooting range when I was there this afternoon, and the talking heads were again jabbering about how the U.S. shouldn't be checking out immigrants or visitors more carefully than we've done in the past. They even trotted out some current U.S. Representative (Democrat, naturally) to parrot the line that checking out people who want to enter the country is unconstitutional.
Morons.
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Death toll seems to be 4, along with 15 injured.
One person arrested, a 39-year old man from Uzbekistan, who has previously expressed sympathies for ISIS. Apparently, he's already confessed.
Ah. So your typical Euro-skeptic, Trump-supporting Methodist.
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Death toll seems to be 4, along with 15 injured.
One person arrested, a 39-year old man from Uzbekistan, who has previously expressed sympathies for ISIS. Apparently, he's already confessed.
There goes my wager, I had money on this one being those militant Methodists...
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Remember the left mocking conservatives over the 'poisonous skittle' analogy? Sweden just ate one.
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Remember the left mocking conservatives over the 'poisonous skittle' analogy? Sweden just ate one.
What's the big deal? Only 3 people died.
They can easily absorb that.
And after all, what's a few dead Westerners compared to the smug satisfaction their rulers feel in importing the downtrodden and making the rabble deal with them.
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What's the big deal? Only 3 people died.
They can easily absorb that.
And after all, what's a few dead Westerners compared to the smug satisfaction their rulers feel in importing the downtrodden and making the rabble deal with them.
That much less white privilege in the world, eh? That's called social justice.
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Remember the left mocking conservatives over the 'poisonous skittle' analogy? Sweden just ate one.
I always wanted to point out the logic flaw in the poisonous skittle analogy. YOU aren't eating the skittles, you're statistically overwhelmingly giving them to OTHER people at random. Most of the people who reshared that flawed analogy also were trying to tell said other people that the skittles are harmless instead of admitting that a handful are guaranteed to be poisonous.
Thing is, I don't disagree with the underlying notion of the poisonous skittle analogy. I support immigration (the legal kind) and accept that while the overwhelming majority aren't a problem, there will always be a handful of bad people. One would want to be intelligent about the matter in terms of numbers, background checks, etc but that doesn't change the fact that no screening will ever be perfect.
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I always wanted to point out the logic flaw in the poisonous skittle analogy. YOU aren't eating the skittles, you're statistically overwhelmingly giving them to OTHER people at random. Most of the people who reshared that flawed analogy also were trying to tell said other people that the skittles are harmless instead of admitting that a handful are guaranteed to be poisonous.
Thing is, I don't disagree with the underlying notion of the poisonous skittle analogy. I support immigration (the legal kind) and accept that while the overwhelming majority aren't a problem, there will always be a handful of bad people. One would want to be intelligent about the matter in terms of numbers, background checks, etc but that doesn't change the fact that no screening will ever be perfect.
There is a happy medium somewhere between letting no one in and inviting 100,000 screaming beards in to do as they please.
Sweden has chosen the latter extreme.