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Title: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Ben on April 12, 2017, 10:30:12 AM
I got excited when I just heard that Toyota decided to reintroduce the FJ Cruiser. While the window configuration was a little constricting for me, I found the platform to be very solid, especially for off-pavement when I was waffling between buying it or my 4Runner back in 2014.

 I looked up what they are looking at "reintroducing". It's  “a modern 4x4 toolbox for the most intrepid urbanites.”  Yuck.

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-new-york-auto-show-toyota-20170412-story.html

Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: K Frame on April 12, 2017, 10:56:35 AM
I didn't think it would be possible for anyone to bring out something uglier than either the Kia Soul or the Nissan Cube.

But, by damn, Toyota did it!
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Ben on April 12, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
I didn't think it would be possible for anyone to bring out something uglier than either the Kia Soul or the Nissan Cube.

But, by damn, Toyota did it!

While I will admit they came up with some interesting ideas in the cargo area with the slider over the storage compartment, the cargo area is still less than that of my 4Runner. Between an "SUV" like that and Subarus, I'll drive the "car" over this thing every day of the week. Or just take a quad cab 4x4 truck. I'm betting the Subaru will handle just as much offroad stuff as this thing, given they lowered it to car ground clearance heights.  I bet your Subaru has more ground clearance. I'll also wager this will be ridiculously expensive.

Some more photos, including a picture of someone in their target market:

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/04/toyota-ft-4x-concept-revealed-as.html
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: wmenorr67 on April 12, 2017, 11:12:14 AM
Wish they would bring back the Land Cruiser in the style of the 60's and 70's to compete against the Jeep Wrangler.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Ben on April 12, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
Wish they would bring back the Land Cruiser in the style of the 60's and 70's to compete against the Jeep Wrangler.

The current Land Cruisers are actually very offroad capable, but JHC on a pogo stick, are they ever expensive. Much too rich for my blood. If I was gonna spend that kind of dough, I'd probably opt for a Raptor. But I can't ever see myself spending that kind of dough.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 12, 2017, 12:19:43 PM
I didn't think it would be possible for anyone to bring out something uglier than either the Kia Soul or the Nissan Cube.

But, by damn, Toyota did it!


Pontiac Aztec
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: K Frame on April 12, 2017, 12:25:31 PM

Pontiac Aztec

That was on, and OFF, the market long before either the Soul or the Cube first hit, I think.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 12, 2017, 01:00:50 PM
That new 'yota looks somewhat similar to the new "Jeep" that Fiat introduced a year or two ago. I guess mini-box utes are the form factor of choice these days.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 12, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
That was on, and OFF, the market long before either the Soul or the Cube first hit, I think.



And uglier than either. It lived on as a Buick, but with a significant face-lift.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: brimic on April 12, 2017, 04:58:31 PM
Ford is supposed to be bringing back the Bronco... I might be interested in one of those...
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 12, 2017, 05:11:23 PM
Ford is supposed to be bringing back the Bronco... I might be interested in one of those...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcyyCi2b2AY
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: charby on April 12, 2017, 05:50:17 PM
Looks like those newer jeep models. I'd rub or break off any of those lower hang your downers.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 12, 2017, 06:09:44 PM
I'd rub or break off any of those lower hang your downers.


I'm not touching (or rubbing) that one.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 12, 2017, 06:10:49 PM

Pontiac Aztec

Now, now.  the Aztek had its uses:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH2-UGOhfWw

Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Declaration Day on April 12, 2017, 07:05:27 PM
A couple of you beat me to it:  It's derivative of the current FCA Jeep Renegade, albeit a bit boxier.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 12, 2017, 08:06:27 PM
I got excited when I just heard that Toyota decided to reintroduce the FJ Cruiser. While the window configuration was a little constricting for me, I found the platform to be very solid, especially for off-pavement when I was waffling between buying it or my 4Runner back in 2014.

 I looked up what they are looking at "reintroducing". It's  “a modern 4x4 toolbox for the most intrepid urbanites.”  Yuck.

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-new-york-auto-show-toyota-20170412-story.html



When Transformer toys and Tonka trucks are allowed to breed indiscriminately.
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: Calumus on April 12, 2017, 08:41:12 PM
Jeez, that thing looks like it'll be about as effective a method of birth control as wearing Crocs in public...
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: freakazoid on April 12, 2017, 09:43:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZeFDe44Ddo
Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: p12 on April 12, 2017, 11:15:57 PM
When I saw the pic of the Toyota I fully expected to see some rapping rats to get out of it.

Fugly as hell!


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Title: Re: Another 4X4 Bites the Dust
Post by: K Frame on April 13, 2017, 07:18:03 AM
Pontiac Aztek was apparently a very capable vehicle.

It was just too ugly for words.