Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: wmenorr67 on April 18, 2017, 08:48:45 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/04/18/southwest-airlines-pilot-arrested-on-gun-charge-after-loaded-firearm-found-in-carry-on.html
Granted he screwed up, but really the pilot, the one person who if he wanted to can do a lot of damage anytime he wanted to.
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Every time I see a story like this where the person "forgot" he had a loaded handgun in their bag, I just shake my head (as I'm sure a lot of you do). I know where all of my firearms are all the time. Can't understand in the least anyone who forgets where he/she put a firearm, especially a carry handgun.
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Am I the only person who dumps and absolutely searches every bag or piece of luggage thoroughly before packing?
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Am I the only person who dumps and absolutely searches every bag or piece of luggage thoroughly before packing?
I don't use any luggage that I transport guns in.
That said...yeah...Germanwings anyone? The pilot doesn't need a gun unless he's only holding up the starbucks in terminal B.
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Every time I see a story like this where the person "forgot" he had a loaded handgun in their bag, I just shake my head (as I'm sure a lot of you do). I know where all of my firearms are all the time.
I may not know exactly where everything is at any second, but if I don't know the specifics of one it's because it's properly put away (whether at my place, at mom's or in her secure storage) and not relevant to any immediate action plan. Anything readily available I know about.
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Am I the only person who dumps and absolutely searches every bag or piece of luggage thoroughly before packing?
Or do what I do? Use separate bags. I have my work bags and my range bags.
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Silly incident (but I'm sure not amusing to the pilot). The difference is striking -- this guy was released on a $200 bond and chanrged with a misdemeanor. The guy who was arrested at Newark a few years ago spent a weekend in jail, eventually was released on a very high bond, and was charged with a felony.
Some animals are more equal than others ...
Seems to me if the pilot wants to carry a gun around on his aircraft he should sign up for the Federal Flight Deck Officer program.
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Can't understand in the least anyone who forgets where he/she put a firearm, ...
You don't own many firearms, do you?
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You don't own many firearms, do you?
Can't speak for Chris, but I keep track of my expensive and liability-laden objects.
Chris
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I do keep track of my guns and I do not fly with bags that may have gsr or loose ammo. That said, I have forgotten a gun that was on me. Hell of a note to be somewhere guns shouldn't be and you can't leave for a week or so. Going to sea and found the P3AT right about the time the last line got heaved in the water. Stuff happens.
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Am I the only person who dumps and absolutely searches every bag or piece of luggage thoroughly before packing?
No...I do that as well. I also make sure to empty my EDC stuff from my pockets.
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You don't own many firearms, do you?
Yay, somebody said the unsayable.
I have forgotten that I had a firearm with me over the 50+ years I've been shooting. This business of a firearm being such an oh-so-special piece of hardware is only a fairly recent kind of phenomenon. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but in the words of the sage, yang happens over decades.
I've also parked a rifle behind my shop door and forgot about it over a whole summer, where I kept the shop door open until the first cold weather. Lo! It finally reappeared when I closed the door with me inside.
"Oh, there it is. How about that?"
There. I said the unsayable, too.
Terry, 230RN
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Friend of mine had a gun in a carryon. Small local airport. They gave him a really hard time about it but let him go. Could have arrested him though.
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Flew last month from KC to Indy and made sure my carry-on was devoid of any firearms or brass and ammo. I use the same bag for military duties and it had been at a 9 mm range and I may or may not have had some left over unaccounted for brass and/or ammo stashed away. I'm actually surprised that the GSR/explosive sniffer didn't get activated since it had been overseas around some items.
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I've been carrying a concealed handgun since I was 21. That's 52 years. If anyone would consider a handgun an extension of hisself, it would be me; thus I might be in line for "forgetting" I had one on me or in my briefcase. (I don't have a briefcase anymore since I retired) I can't ever recollect failing to know where one of my guns was.
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I've been carrying a concealed handgun since I was 21. That's 52 years.
:old:
Although you should only be discussing reasons with your lawyer, I would think "I forgot it was in there" would be the most benign of all possible explanations.
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I've been carrying a concealed handgun since I was 21. That's 52 years. If anyone would consider a handgun an extension of hisself, it would be me; thus I might be in line for "forgetting" I had one on me or in my briefcase. (I don't have a briefcase anymore since I retired) I can't ever recollect failing to know where one of my guns was.
I always know where all my guns are. Until I go to look for one and find that it has removed itself from where I know it is.
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To some extent, though, I might give him the benefit of the doubt if the gun ended up there by way of having to disarm somewhere he hadn't expected to be.
Once left one in the DA's car seat pocket that way. (Long story, but before campus carry, open carry, etc.)
"Get your gun out of my car before my wife finds it and thinks I bought another one."
"Shouldn't we be a bit more discreet about that? There are people all around."
"Who's going to charge you?"
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"Friend of mine" had a gun in a carryon. Small local airport. They gave him a really hard time about it but let him go. Could have arrested him though.
Fixed that for you.... :P :P :P :P
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Fixed that for you.... :P :P :P :P
not a close friend...definitely not someone I would go to the range with
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Punch Line
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You.
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My Dad once found some guns he didn't know he had.
(He was storing them for a friend with a druggie kid.)
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At this exact moment* I can honestly say I do not know how many guns I own, but I do know where all of the are...I think.
*Less than 30 (I think) but more than 24. I really need to do a hard count again and verify/update my list of SNs and approximate value.
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I know where all my firearms are at this time.
Some of them are even still at the store waiting for me to have the money to purchase them.
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I know where all my firearms are at this time.
Some of them are even still at the store waiting for me to have the money to purchase them.
Quoted for truth.
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You don't own many firearms, do you?
Six long guns, Ten handguns. I'd have more, but I just paid off law school and other debts last year, and I am also of the habit of saving and buying with cash after an inordinate amount of research and handling because I'm just broken that way.
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I know where all my firearms are at this time.
Some of them are even still at the store waiting for me to have the money to purchase them.
I store a lot of my firearms the same way.