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Title: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Ben on May 14, 2017, 07:48:19 PM
It seems his name is being bandied about. I don't know enough about his qualifications to give an opinion, but this has got to be making lib heads explode as they try to figure out whether to be happy or outraged.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/14/mcconnell-thinks-garland-as-fbi-director-fantastic-idea-ex-adviser-says.html
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: dm1333 on May 14, 2017, 08:10:39 PM
It seems his name is being bandied about. I don't know enough about his qualifications to give an opinion, but this has got to be making lib heads explode as they try to figure out whether to be happy or outraged.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/14/mcconnell-thinks-garland-as-fbi-director-fantastic-idea-ex-adviser-says.html

Probably a better choice than Trey Gowdy.  That would make heads spin on the left.  How will all of this impede the White House from working on tax reform?
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Scout26 on May 14, 2017, 08:35:20 PM
How will all of this impede the White House from working on tax reform?

Not at all.   The Trump WH doesn't seem to care about political "timing" or other insider calculations.  He's doing thing his way, at his pace, the Establishment be damned.  Which makes libs (and Establishment R's) heads explode.

I saw a while back one British MP explain that Trump is breaking all the political rules by actually keeping his campaign promises...
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: HankB on May 14, 2017, 08:46:24 PM
. . .
I saw a while back one British MP explain that Trump is breaking all the political rules by actually keeping his campaign promises...
Why were they interviewing a Limey Miltiary Policeman? 

 ;)    =D
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Northwoods on May 14, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Why were they interviewing a Limey Miltiary Policeman?  

 ;)    =D

MP there is "Member of Parliament".

Yes, I know that was intentional on your part.  This deals with the inevitable questions from the peanut gallery.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: gunsmith on May 15, 2017, 12:40:53 AM
MP there is "Member of Parliament".

Yes, I know that was intentional on your part.  This deals with the inevitable questions from the peanut gallery.
peanuts have a gallery? you mean like lucy and charlie brown?


I like Trey a lot, but he should do something that will line him up to be prez or vice prez
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Scout26 on May 15, 2017, 04:53:18 AM
peanuts have a gallery? you mean like lucy and charlie brown?


I like Trey a lot, but he should do something that will line him up to be prez or vice prez

He needs to replace Lindsay Graham in the Senate....
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Monkeyleg on May 15, 2017, 09:47:52 AM
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He needs to replace Lindsay Graham in the Senate....

Almost any small green amphibian could replace Graham.

As for Garland, my concern is that he has an indebtedness to the Democrat leadership, and would use his position at the FBI to continue to hound Trump.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 15, 2017, 10:00:20 AM
Almost any small green amphibian could replace Graham.

As for Garland, my concern is that he has an indebtedness to the Democrat leadership, and would use his position at the FBI to continue to hound Trump.

Agreed. Garland would be a terrible choice, for too many reasons to enumerate.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: DittoHead on May 15, 2017, 10:13:51 AM
lib heads explode as they try to figure out whether to be happy or outraged.

Garland seems like a very strange choice to me. I don't think the Dems would have any trouble spinning that as a huge win for them. I think there would be more celebrating than heads exploding.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 15, 2017, 11:38:34 AM
I heard someone suggest Trump find someone who is not a politician from the police/law enforcement side.  They thought Comey's problem is he was a former prosecutor trying to get involved in prosecution/politics when the FBI's job is investigation only.  I am not so sure.  I think it all depends on picking someone who respects the primary mission of the FBI and isn't trying to stamp his resume for the next elected or appointed job.  I am not so sure appointing an elected representative would be best. 

I suspect McConnell is trying to win a few points with Senate Democrats/Weak Republicans or maybe just letting his inner establishment show.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 15, 2017, 12:22:14 PM
Agreed. Garland would be a terrible choice, for too many reasons to enumerate.

Yup. We DO NOT need another liberal, anti-gun, SJW appointed to federal law enforcement.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Monkeyleg on May 15, 2017, 03:46:20 PM
Anyone know anything about former NYC police commissioner Kelly?
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Fitz on May 15, 2017, 05:10:32 PM
garland the FBI director can be fired

Garland the judge on the DC circuit, cannot.

Just sayin.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Scout26 on May 15, 2017, 06:25:06 PM
Appoint him as FBI director.  Replace him on the DC circuit., then once that happens, fire him as FBI director. 

Two problems solved...

 =D =D =D =D =D
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Monkeyleg on May 15, 2017, 07:46:43 PM
Appoint him as FBI director.  Replace him on the DC circuit., then once that happens, fire him as FBI director. 

Two problems solved...

 =D =D =D =D =D

You're sneaky. :)
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 15, 2017, 08:25:18 PM
Appoint him as FBI director.  Replace him on the DC circuit., then once that happens, fire him as FBI director. 

Two problems solved...

 =D =D =D =D =D


Yes, please.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 15, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
Appoint him as FBI director.  Replace him on the DC circuit., then once that happens, fire him as FBI director. 

Two problems solved...

 =D =D =D =D =D

Nah, just make it "known" that he is about to dump serious dirt on the Clintons.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: 230RN on May 15, 2017, 11:52:18 PM
Anyone know anything about former NYC police commissioner Kelly?

Automatic disqualification.  Anyone from NYC, especially in law enforcement, has been too steeped in New York's rather casual conception of rights.  This, completely apart from any mere competence as an investigator.  That New York attitude of "us" versus "them" --with the "versus" strongly implying antagonism --is bound to bleed over into any mere "investigation."

Yes, and I know President Trump is from my own neighborhood in NY, but he's had the benefit of broad experience in other areas, both business-wise and geographically.  So don't throw that at me.  I changed, too, on emigrating to Colorado.

Terry
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Scout26 on May 16, 2017, 12:33:01 AM
Joe Arpaio - Just to see C&SD's head asplode....

David Clarke - Just to see all of the Establishment's heads asplode.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Fitz on May 16, 2017, 01:04:14 AM
Joe Arpaio - Just to see C&SD's head asplode....

David Clarke - Just to see all of the Establishment's heads asplode.

Neither of those are actually good ideas
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: 230RN on May 16, 2017, 06:41:24 AM
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Quote from: Amy Schumer on May 15, 2017, 10:33:01 PM
Joe Arpaio - Just to see C&SD's head asplode....

David Clarke - Just to see all of the Establishment's heads asplode.

Quote from FItz:
Neither of those are actually good ideas

 :rofl:

You mean it's not a good idea to see the Establishment's heads asplode?  :D
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: DittoHead on May 16, 2017, 08:45:08 AM
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You mean it's not a good idea to see the Establishment's heads asploide?  :D

It's not automatically a bad thing, but people are too obsessed with angering their opposition in my opinion.

Quote from: CHARLES J. SYKES
What may have begun as a policy or a tactic in opposition has long since become a reflex. But there is an obvious price to be paid for essentially becoming a party devoted to trolling. In the long run, it’s hard to see how a party dedicated to liberal tears can remain a movement based on ideas or centered on principles.

Conservatives will care less about governing and more about scoring “wins” — and inflicting losses on the left — no matter how hollow the victories or flawed the policies. Ultimately, though, this will end badly because it is a moral and intellectual dead end, and very likely a political one as well.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Ben on May 16, 2017, 09:21:06 AM
Joe Arpaio - Just to see C&SD's head asplode....

David Clarke - Just to see all of the Establishment's heads asplode.

That would make my head explode too.

I actually like a lot of what David Clarke says, but like many who are LE-centric, he sometimes has an "LE is always right" slant that bothers me. I don't want the head of any LE agency to put their coworkers above citizens.

Perhaps he wouldn't - he seems to be a very strong supporter of the 2nd, which usually also means a supporter of individual freedoms, however a few things he has said about surveillance and privacy worry me a little.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 16, 2017, 11:44:03 AM
I actually like a lot of what David Clarke says, but like many who are LE-centric, he sometimes has an "LE is always right" slant that bothers me. I don't want the head of any LE agency to put their coworkers above citizens.

I don't like being the bearer of bad news, but that ship sailed a long time ago. "To Protect and Serve" may still appear on the sides of patrol vehicles, but the underlying mantra of law enforcement agencies for a couple or three decades has been "It's all good it I go home at the end of my shift." It's exceedingly unlikely that anyone can be found to head the FBI who doesn't hold that attitude and, in the unlikely event such an individual could be found and confirmed, it would be impossible for him/her to actually reverse that attitude within the bureau.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: KD5NRH on May 16, 2017, 12:02:37 PM
It's exceedingly unlikely that anyone can be found to head the FBI who doesn't hold that attitude and, in the unlikely event such an individual could be found and confirmed, it would be impossible for him/her to actually reverse that attitude within the bureau.

Ron Paul's got some free time these days, and seems to like a challenge.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: charby on May 16, 2017, 03:19:54 PM
NPR reported Garland's close associates say he isn't interested.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Northwoods on May 17, 2017, 12:25:47 AM
NPR reported Garland's close associates say he isn't interested.

It was always highly unlikely Trump would even offer it, and even more unlikely Garland would accept.  Short of Congress impeaching him he has a guaranteed job for life where he's at now, and likely more power over time than FBI director would provide.  If he took the post at the FBI he could be fired at any time by the POTUS (whether Trump or otherwise), and it's only a 10 year nominal term.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: DittoHead on May 17, 2017, 03:25:23 PM
David Clarke - Just to see all of the Establishment's heads asplode.

Not FBI Director but apparently he is movin' on up.
Quote from: https://twitter.com/BradyCarlson/status/864923425520984064
he's leaving the Milwaukee County Sheriff's office to take a job at the Dept. of Homeland Security.
Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: Ben on May 19, 2017, 12:20:10 AM
Huh. Looks like Lieberman rose to the top as of now. I would never have guessed that in a million years.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/18/joe-lieberman-emerges-as-trumps-top-choice-for-fbi-director.html
Title: Re:
Post by: makattak on May 19, 2017, 07:07:50 AM
I may disagree with Lieberman on a host of issues, but from his history, I believe him to be honest.

Which says a lot, actually.

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Title: Re:
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 19, 2017, 08:01:53 AM

I may disagree with Lieberman on a host of issues, but from his history, I believe him to be honest.

Which says a lot, actually.

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I can't listen to the man talk with out thinking about the dad from ALF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEOxaoP9cw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEOxaoP9cw)


Title: Re: Garland for FBI Director?
Post by: makattak on May 19, 2017, 08:12:09 AM
I can't listen to the man talk with out thinking about the dad from ALF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEOxaoP9cw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEOxaoP9cw)

I had never made that connection, but even without the link, I can hear it!  :rofl: