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Title: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 05, 2017, 09:55:23 AM
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/07/05/cnn_new_day_cnn_promised_not_to_identify_pro-trump_reddit_user_if_he_apologized_a_nice_thing.html

With everything that's happening in the country and in the world, CNN has nothing better to do than track down the person who created the meme of Trump body slamming CNN. So they find him, and then they act like it wasn't a form of blackmail that he apologized in exchange for not being outed because, well, he asked them not to blow his cover, they didn't offer him the deal they only accepted it.

Bastards. They know full well the mood of the country, and they are fully aware that if they published his name and location his house would probably be torched within 24 hours. Heck, if they published his name without the location, probably twenty people with that name all across the country would have their houses torched.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 05, 2017, 10:05:58 AM
This is backfiring on them in spectacular fashion. At this point it's not just "delete your account', it's "delete your network".
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: RevDisk on July 05, 2017, 10:37:12 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

Where CNN admitted they are extorting the guy.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 05, 2017, 10:41:52 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

Where CNN admitted they are extorting the guy.

That story is just about an argument that CNN should take their beef to Trump, not the guy who made the meme. CNN is drowning in lack of self-awareness.

Anyway, isn't this the kind of stuff Anonymous loves to go after?
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: makattak on July 05, 2017, 10:45:28 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

Where CNN admitted they are extorting the guy.

I am amused by their defense.


"After contacting him with his real name and address, he posted the apology before he called us back! OBVIOUSLY, it wasn't anything we said to make him apologize, so we clearly didn't blackmail him!

(And if he knows what's good for him, that's what he'll say, too.)"




I'm fairly certain my 2 year old won't fall for that.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: makattak on July 05, 2017, 10:46:34 AM
That story is just about an argument that CNN should take their beef to Trump, not the guy who made the meme. CNN is drowning in lack of self-awareness.

Anyway, isn't this the kind of stuff Anonymous loves to go after?

Hey, even Anonymous and 4Chan need a little time to get things going; the blackmail just happened yesterday.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 05, 2017, 11:26:57 AM
A little more info on the past shenanigans of the lead CNN reporter on this:

http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2017/07/05/omg-is-there-a-worse-person-to-defend-cnns-andrew-kaczynski-over-cnnblackmail/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD-gufVXkAEm4Xd.jpg)
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Viking on July 05, 2017, 12:03:07 PM
Hey, even Anonymous and 4Chan need a little time to get things going; the blackmail just happened yesterday.
They are already on it. Pic is unreadable because reasons, but every topic is about CNN, somehow. Including the Israeli flag, the Pepe & the Elmo
(https://i.imgur.com/sayV8Nu_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: makattak on July 05, 2017, 01:25:58 PM
They are already on it. Pic is unreadable because reasons, but every topic is about CNN, somehow. Including the Israeli flag, the Pepe & the Elmo
(https://i.imgur.com/sayV8Nu_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)

I don't know about the rest of them, but Elmo makes sense since they recently hired him as a recurring political analyst.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 05, 2017, 01:28:24 PM
Your CNN-bashing has been crowd-sourced:

http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/07/05/dont-doxx-us-bro-here-are-the-top-10-trump-vs-cnn-gifs-from-cnnblackmail-tag/
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: MechAg94 on July 05, 2017, 02:58:27 PM
I just saw a tweet that indicated 4chan has declared war on CNN also.  It was in a Sean Spicier tweet response.  The pieces of the post list CNN advertisers and give the names of the CNN people that tracked the kid down.  Looks like this could get interesting. 
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: TechMan on July 05, 2017, 03:01:54 PM
I just saw a tweet that indicated 4chan has declared war on CNN also.  It was in a Sean Spicier tweet response.  The pieces of the post list CNN advertisers and give the names of the CNN people that tracked the kid down.  Looks like this could get interesting. 

https://twitter.com/polNewsForever (https://twitter.com/polNewsForever)
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 05, 2017, 05:56:45 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/benshapiro/status/882645763242766336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-735352824031344457.ampproject.net%2F1498868275630%2Fframe.html


Here's the new bit from Veritas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTrfI6JSveE

(salty language, of course)


Also:
https://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2017/07/05/whoa-ted-cruz-may-have-some-very-bad-news-for-cnn-after-cnnblackmail/
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: French G. on July 05, 2017, 06:58:20 PM
Oh this sucks. My ribs are afu and it is really painful to laugh. And I am going to watch every cnn related gif and laugh. Repeatedly.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: 230RN on July 05, 2017, 07:43:03 PM
I just hope Han A. Solo is eligible for an emergency concealed carry permit.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 05, 2017, 08:13:13 PM
Some groups are preparing to go to Andrew Kaczynski's house and protest.

I hope someone talks some sense into them. That's the kind of thing I expect the SJWs to do, not conservatives/libertarians. Private property rights.  If they do it, they're no better than the people who blocked Betsy Devos from entering a school.

http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/07/05/leave-andrew-alone-protest-outside-the-kaczynski-home-is-something-everyone-should-resist/
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: freakazoid on July 05, 2017, 08:15:55 PM
Word around Facebook is that the person who made it is 15 years old. Reddit and 4chan are on the attack. Saw a thread from there that was compiling a list off all their advertisers and their contact information.

One of my favorite memes that has sprung up.
(https://pics.me.me/5-04-cnn-cn-li-cnn-did-nothing-wrong-i-deeply-24675224.png)
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: zahc on July 05, 2017, 08:29:07 PM
This isn't as bad as people make it sound. CNN is staffed with journalists, not activists. Sure they went after this guy, but they also go after all the anti-trump and pro-media meme creators. I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: French G. on July 05, 2017, 09:32:07 PM
This isn't as bad as people make it sound. CNN is staffed with journalists, not activists. Sure they went after this guy, but they also go after all the anti-trump and pro-media meme creators. I'm pretty sure.

Ahahahahaha ow, my ribs.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 05, 2017, 11:37:33 PM
Some groups are preparing to go to Andrew Kaczynski's house and protest.

I hope someone talks some sense into them. That's the kind of thing I expect the SJWs to do, not conservatives/libertarians. Private property rights.  If they do it, they're no better than the people who blocked Betsy Devos from entering a school.


That's what makes it hilarious, though.  [popcorn]  And I thought the incident with Devos was at a public school.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 06, 2017, 12:11:45 AM

And I thought the incident with Devos was at a public school.

Then insert anyone who offends SJWs and ends up with them on their front lawn. If it's wrong for one side to do it, it's also wrong for the other side. They can keep the protests to the Internet and the sidewalk in front of CNN.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: French G. on July 06, 2017, 12:59:00 AM
Different. CNN threatened to put the antifa autistic Lynch mob in the kid's yard if they so chose. And exactly what info has been leak proof lately? Shots fired. The weaponized autism bunch responded in kind, what should happen when you dox someone.

Much like the formerly trendy practice of criminal shopping list by papers publishing CCW lists. One of which I made. Editors are fair game then.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 06, 2017, 01:25:24 AM
Then insert anyone who offends SJWs and ends up with them on their front lawn. If it's wrong for one side to do it, it's also wrong for the other side. They can keep the protests to the Internet and the sidewalk in front of CNN.


Do you think protesting outside of a person's house is wrong? Why would you say that?

I'm not saying we should go so far as to ransack and raze their homes, like patriot mobs did to loyalists, back in the 1770s. I'm just talking about protest.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 06, 2017, 01:41:26 AM
Some groups are preparing to go to Andrew Kaczynski's house and protest.

I hope someone talks some sense into them. That's the kind of thing I expect the SJWs to do, not conservatives/libertarians. Private property rights.  If they do it, they're no better than the people who blocked Betsy Devos from entering a school.

http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/07/05/leave-andrew-alone-protest-outside-the-kaczynski-home-is-something-everyone-should-resist/

I see it sauce for the gander, just a taste of their own cooking.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Firethorn on July 06, 2017, 01:55:02 AM
Bastards. They know full well the mood of the country, and they are fully aware that if they published his name and location his house would probably be torched within 24 hours. Heck, if they published his name without the location, probably twenty people with that name all across the country would have their houses torched.

I think it depends on whether Anonymous is outraged by it or not. 

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/05/26/professor-arrested-on-suspicion-of-assaulting-trump-supporters-with-metal-bike-lock-in-berkeley/

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Clanton, 28, was identified as the alleged bike-lock attacker on the 4Chan website soon after the incident in which leftist antifa counter-protesters clashed with Trump supporters, Berkleyside reported. Twenty people were arrested and 11 others were injured — seven of whom needed hospitalization, KPIX-TV said.

These are also the guys who tracked down a flag being flown where the only evidence of it being flown was a webcam showing the flag from an angle that only showed the flag and sky.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: freakazoid on July 06, 2017, 04:59:59 AM
I think it depends on whether Anonymous is outraged by it or not. 

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/05/26/professor-arrested-on-suspicion-of-assaulting-trump-supporters-with-metal-bike-lock-in-berkeley/

These are also the guys who tracked down a flag being flown where the only evidence of it being flown was a webcam showing the flag from an angle that only showed the flag and sky.

Weaponized autism. :rofl:
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: TechMan on July 06, 2017, 05:38:28 AM
Ooops...CNN may have gone after the wrong person, according to Buzzfeed.

http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/07/05/if-buzzfeed-is-correct-it-appears-cnns-andrew-kaczynski-outed-the-wrong-guy/ (http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/07/05/if-buzzfeed-is-correct-it-appears-cnns-andrew-kaczynski-outed-the-wrong-guy/)
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 06, 2017, 07:12:26 AM
They know full well the mood of the country, and they are fully aware that if they published his name and location his house would probably be torched within 24 hours. Heck, if they published his name without the location, probably twenty people with that name all across the country would have their houses torched.


Have people had their houses set on fire by anti-Trump goons?
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Firethorn on July 06, 2017, 07:41:34 AM

Have people had their houses set on fire by anti-Trump goons?

I think I'd rather take the house fire than a full arm swing of a bike lock to the head...
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 06, 2017, 09:43:50 AM

Do you think protesting outside of a person's house is wrong? Why would you say that?

Absolutely 100% wrong. Conservatives always rail about property rights, "home=castle" etc. when this is done to them or to people they approve of.

You don't involve people's families, including kids (and with home protests, neighbors) in your beef with them.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: makattak on July 06, 2017, 09:46:51 AM
Absolutely 100% wrong. Conservatives always rail about property rights, "home=castle" etc. when this is done to them or to people they approve of.

You don't involve people's families, including kids (and with home protests, neighbors) in your beef with them.

I believe that too. Unfortunately we don't live under those rules any more, and so long as we don't, I'm vehemently opposed to only one side of a debate being protected by the rules of civility.

I'm not going to protest on someone's lawn, but until there is universal condemnation on that, I'm taking the position of "no enemies to the right."
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 06, 2017, 09:56:48 AM
I believe that too. Unfortunately we don't live under those rules any more, and so long as we don't, I'm vehemently opposed to only one side of a debate being protected by the rules of civility.

I'm not going to protest on someone's lawn, but until there is universal condemnation on that, I'm taking the position of "no enemies to the right."

I can semi-agree with you here I think. If Anonymous wants to go after them, or SJW and internet anti-doxx types want to go to the guy's house, these are groups that don't really believe in the house=castle mantra and personal property rights, so it's kind of like them eating their own.

I simply can't approve of conservative and libertarian groups blocking his front door because it's hypocritical to what they supposedly stand for. Peacefully protesting on the sidewalk in front of CNN would be a different thing.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 06, 2017, 09:58:25 AM
Absolutely 100% wrong. Conservatives always rail about property rights, "home=castle" etc. when this is done to them or to people they approve of.

You don't involve people's families, including kids (and with home protests, neighbors) in your beef with them.


You can protest at or near someone's home without being on their property, or attacking their children. As far as I know, there's no law against protesting in the presence of children, or neighbors.

I'm curious - do you think funeral protests are protected speech?
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 06, 2017, 10:20:11 AM

I simply can't approve of conservative and libertarian groups blocking his front door because it's hypocritical to what they supposedly stand for. Peacefully protesting on the sidewalk in front of CNN would be a different thing.

CNN is a private entity. How is peacefully demonstrating on the sidewalk in front of CNN any different from peacefully demonstrating on the sidewalk in front of an individual's house?
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 06, 2017, 10:20:34 AM

You can protest at or near someone's home without being on their property, or attacking their children. As far as I know, there's no law against protesting in the presence of children, or neighbors.

I'm curious - do you think funeral protests are protected speech?

You can absolutely not protest at someone's home (or a funeral) without affecting their children if they are at that place. "Protected" =/= moral or civil. Just because you support someone's right to burn an American flag, are you going to burn one?

Do you remember what APS staff did to the guy here who posted your personal information and home address ten or so years ago? We handled it without resorting to his tactics.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: MechAg94 on July 06, 2017, 11:51:34 AM
You can absolutely not protest at someone's home (or a funeral) without affecting their children if they are at that place. "Protected" =/= moral or civil. Just because you support someone's right to burn an American flag, are you going to burn one?

Do you remember what APS staff did to the guy here who posted your personal information and home address ten or so years ago? We handled it without resorting to his tactics.
"affecting" is a pretty wide open word.  Is just standing there the problem? 

I doubt anyone would behave like the union activists did a few years ago where they broke down the front door of a politician's house when only his kid was home.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 06, 2017, 12:37:25 PM
You can absolutely not protest at someone's home (or a funeral) without affecting their children if they are at that place. "Protected" =/= moral or civil. Just because you support someone's right to burn an American flag, are you going to burn one?

Do you remember what APS staff did to the guy here who posted your personal information and home address ten or so years ago? We handled it without resorting to his tactics.


If what the person did is significant enough, and bad enough, that people have a good reason to protest, then why would you be worried that his children might see or hear a protest? What's going on at this protest that is so terrifying for the children? Does this guy from CNN even have minor children that live with him?

I think it makes a difference what you're protesting. Granted, CNN doxxing a guy is not as bad as, say, the guy that was performing FGM up in Michigan, or wherever. But protesting the CNN guy is certainly different from getting upset that a pizza parlor won't hypothetically cater a gay wedding.

As for the guy that dug up my home address, I don't think the problem was my fear that he might stage a legal, 1st-amendment protest outside my house.

Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 06, 2017, 01:33:43 PM
You can absolutely not protest at someone's home (or a funeral) without affecting their children if they are at that place. "Protected" =/= moral or civil. Just because you support someone's right to burn an American flag, are you going to burn one?

First you talked about "blocking his door." That's not legal. Sidewalks are public spaces. If we believe in a nation of laws, and freedom of speech, I think we have to accept that standing on a public sidewalk cannot be prohibited (as long as the demonstration/protest is peaceful and doesn't impede anyone's right of free passage).

Of course, everyone views things differently. I know the Supreme Court has ruled that burning the flag is "protected free speech," but I disagree with that ruling. I have to accept it, because it's the law of the land (at least for now), but I don't think it should be allowed. So asking if I'm going to burn a flag because I support someone else's right to do so is the wrong question to be asking me.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 06, 2017, 01:48:20 PM
First you talked about "blocking his door." That's not legal. Sidewalks are public spaces. If we believe in a national of laws, and freedom of speech, I think we have to accept that standing on a public sidewalk cannot be prohibited (as long as the demonstration/protest is peaceful and doesn't impede anyone's right of free passage).


Not once have I talked about "prohibited".
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 06, 2017, 03:48:20 PM
I'd still like to know what you think about funeral protests.

I've never heard of a taboo against protests in residential areas. I guess I could be talked into it. But where is protest acceptable? No one wants to be protested anywhere - at work, at the corner bar, at church, etc.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 06, 2017, 05:05:39 PM
I'd still like to know what you think about funeral protests.

I've never heard of a taboo against protests in residential areas. I guess I could be talked into it. But where is protest acceptable? No one wants to be protested anywhere - at work, at the corner bar, at church, etc.

I thought I already answered that. A funeral protest is even more crass than taking a protest from someone's work to their home and personal life.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: MechAg94 on July 06, 2017, 05:32:14 PM
I am getting confused by everyone mixing illegal versus societal taboos versus being mean.............but I guess that isn't all that unusual on this site.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on July 06, 2017, 05:48:38 PM
Seriously....   CNN stepped on their own crank wearing golf shoes, and as this story keeps growing, it appears they're continuing to grind it into the ground.   

I do have to laugh at how they are so upset that what they were threatening to do to someone else, is now being done to them.   As someone pointed out, goose, gander, etc.   

I don't necessarily agree with the whole "protesting at their house" business....   But I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy for a group that in general, tends to say, "well, we didn't intend to incite that mob to riot, we were just reporting the news!"
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 06, 2017, 07:37:53 PM
I thought I already answered that. A funeral protest is even more crass than taking a protest from someone's work to their home and personal life.

My office is at ground level, and has a mighty big window, facing the sidewalk. And I mean, it is hard by the sidewalk. I can't imagine a protest outside that window, where it would affect me, and other people in our small company, being a whole lot more acceptable to me than having a protest on the other side of my front yard.

Also, some people work out of their homes. What's the rule there?

I guess if you conceive of a workplace as a high-rise office on the 35th floor, with protests occuring down on the sidewalk; vs a house in the burbs, your dichotomy makes more sense. I guess my perspective is different.

In either case, I'd think the workplace protest is more likely to have long term impact, if it causes you to lose your job.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: freakazoid on July 06, 2017, 07:44:48 PM
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Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 06, 2017, 10:08:42 PM
I thought I already answered that. A funeral protest is even more crass than taking a protest from someone's work to their home and personal life.

Why is taking the protest against what someone did at his/her place of work to his/her place of residence any more crass than that someone taking a private party, who posted something anonymously with the expectation of remaining private, and publicizing the poster's name and personal information? Kaczynski threatened an invasion of an individual's privacy -- I think it's only fair that he should reap what he threatened to sow.

I compare it to those newspapers who printed the names and addresses of concealed carry permit holders. The publishers and editors weren't so happy when their home addresses and telephone numbers were made public.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Scout26 on July 06, 2017, 10:37:15 PM
Anybody want to guess the over/under for how long Anon will take CNN off the air ??
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: CypherNinja on July 06, 2017, 10:46:42 PM
My own contribution:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi334.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm412%2Fcypherninja%2Fsideshowcnn_1.gif&hash=ab0c64e28d0542fd9887d018611b25cd6134610f)

Feel free to share far and wide!  =D
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Ben on July 07, 2017, 12:10:55 AM
My own contribution:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi334.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm412%2Fcypherninja%2Fsideshowcnn_1.gif&hash=ab0c64e28d0542fd9887d018611b25cd6134610f)

Feel free to share far and wide!  =D

I could swear I saw that on Twitchy or somewhere. If so, good job! If not, good job anyway!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 07, 2017, 09:46:41 AM
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@RobSchneider (https://twitter.com/RobSchneider/status/883112438568235008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2017%2F07%2F07%2Fgonna-leave-a-mark-rob-schneider-uses-cnns-own-threat-against-them-in-epic-slam-tweet%2F)

CNN is biased,fake,lies,distortions,fake sources & a blackmailer.
I reserve the right to watch your network again should any of that change.


http://www.dailywire.com/news/18355/cnn-fun-fact-day-here-are-all-networks-beating-cnn-james-barrett

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The cable ratings show that over the course of last week (June 26-July 2), CNN's viewership from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. was far below Fox News and MSNBC, and also trailed Home and Garden TV, USA Network, TBS Network, History channel, ESPN, Discovery Channel, FX, TLC, Nick-at-Night, and Investigation Discovery.
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Chester32141 on July 08, 2017, 05:54:12 PM
Great GIF Cypher Ninja ...  =D

Best Trump v. CNN I've seen ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUwE_Qg1bqg

 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: 230RN on July 08, 2017, 06:25:42 PM
Laughed like hell with all the MSM logos on the singer's shorts.

Great stuff !

:rofl:

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 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Un-[___]ing Believable!
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 10, 2017, 12:33:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyb3hC1pzQI