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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Perd Hapley on August 08, 2017, 12:13:20 PM
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https://www.out.com/popnography/2017/8/07/clothing-company-attempts-reclaim-swastika-lgbtq-people?utm_source=OUTFB&utm_medium=ORG
The way the sexuality/gender issues are being used like a club against anyone who dares to disagree, or just wants to be let alone, the rainbow and the swastika make a lot of sense together.
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https://www.out.com/popnography/2017/8/07/clothing-company-attempts-reclaim-swastika-lgbtq-people?utm_source=OUTFB&utm_medium=ORG
The way the sexuality/gender issues are being used like a club against anyone who dares to disagree, or just wants to be let alone, the rainbow and the swastika make a lot of sense together.
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one to see this as completely appropriate.
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It's so appropriate that it reads like a irony wrapped up in satire. I suspect the company couldn't see it, even after they got push back just for the swastika aspect.
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It strikes me as totally appropriate -- and I'm quite certain that's NOT what the company had in mind.
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I agree, the swastika is a symbol of the left..
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I'm just wondering why fistful is clicking on gay websites. :P =D =D
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The swastika is an archetypal, universal human religious symbol. It appears on every continent and is as old as humankind. A marker of the sun’s travels, it can be seen on Pictish rock carvings, adorning ancient Greek pottery, and on ancient Norse weapons and implements. It was scratched on cave walls in France seven thousand years ago. A swastika marks the beginning of many Buddhist scriptures, and is often incised on the soles of the feet of the Buddha in statuary. In the Jain religion, it is a symbol of the seventh Jina (Saint), the Tirthankara Suparsva. To Native Americans, the swastika is a symbol of the sun, the four directions, and the four seasons.
The swastika is a type of solar cross, with arms bent at right angles, suggesting a whirling or turning motion. Long before the symbol was co-opted as an emblem of Hitler’s Nazi party, it was a sacred symbol to Hindu, Jain, and Buddhist religions, as well as in Norse, Basque, Baltic, and Celtic Paganism. The name Swastika is derived from the Sanskrit language, from “su,” meaning “good,” and “vasti”,” meaning “being” (together; well being). In India, it is used as a fertility and good luck charm. The right turning Indian swastika symbolizes the sun and positive energy, and is most commonly associated with the deity Ganesh, a God of prosperity and wealth. Some Indians regard an anti-clockwise swastika as an opposing, dark force- a symbol of the goddess Kali. Together, the two can be regarded as symbolically similar to the Yin Yang symbol of Taoism, or the two Pillars of Kabbalah. The swastika is also known for its uses in heraldry as the tetraskelion, the fylfot cross (fylfot meaning ‘four feet,’ a term used in european heraldry), the cross gammadion (because it resembles four greek letter ‘gammas.’), and the hakenkreutz (German, hooked cross).
The swastika used in Buddhist art and scripture is known as a Manji, and represents Dharma, universal harmony, and the balance of opposites. When facing left, it is the Omote (front) Manji, representing love and mercy. Facing right, it represents strength and intelligence, and is called the Ura (rear facing) Omoje. Balanced Manji are often found at the beginning and end of Buddhist scriptures. You can read more about Manji here. In pre-Christian Pagan Europe, the swastika was generally a solar symbol, but in many cases, its use dates so far back in history that its original meaning is obscured. In Baltic regions, the swastika is sometimes called the “thunder cross,” and is associated with the Thunder God Perkons (Perkunis). This symbol caused some confusion in recent years when it was one of many traditional Latvian designs sewn into a pair of mittens gifted to President George W. Bush during a state visit.
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It was scratched on cave walls in France seven thousand years ago.
After the Gauls were overrun by the 7th Teutonic Panzer Division....
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After the Gauls were overrun by the 7th Teutonic Panzer Division....
My dad and his squad annihilated 7th Teutonic Panzer Division in March of 1945 using only M1 Garands. They then salted the earth and drank cognac. WWII ended shortly thereafter.
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I'm just wondering why fistful is clicking on gay websites. :P =D =D
Got to keep an eye on 'em, ya know. Yeah, been keepin' tabs on the gay agenda. I've actually begun to enjoy it. No, wait, forget that last part. That didn't come out right. :facepalm:
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https://www.facebook.com/ElectTrump2020/videos/912047162278055/
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HeroHog, wasn't all you wrote relevant to the swastika with the arms turned leftwards? ("卍") Whereas the Nazi swastika's arms turned right? ("卐")
Seems I recollect things being thataway. But, you know, 78yo, so....
In either case, while it may make "rational" sense, it doesn't make semantic sense, and they're idiots for trying to push that "interpretation."
Unless their real motive is to bring attention to their whole product line and they'll drop it with an apology later.
You know, on the "any publicity is good publicity" theory.
I mean, who ever heard of this outfit before?
For myself, I would use neither the right nor the left swastika for anything unless I wanted to create my "fifteen minutes of fame." But I like to keep a low profile anyhow.
Blowing the Reichstadt swastika. Closeups reveal that they used a Bangalore torpedo:
https://youtu.be/MJzdgZ1lOTA
Keep that incident in mind. It took over 400,000 U.S. military lives to destroy that symbol. Let's not wake it up again in any form whatsoever.
Terry, "follow the money," 230RN
REF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore_torpedo
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Well, given how militant, socialist, and repressive members of that community can be...
on its face its an appropriate pairing.
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And this newfound redemption of the swastika is brought to you by folks who are unable to abide the confederate flag painted on the General Lee? Amazing natural moral agility. You can't coach that...
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I was in NO WAY advocating using the swastika or trying to justify its use, just point out that is was a religous icon that the Nasis perverted and that has tainted an ancient symbol of peace and unity for the foreseeable future. While there IS a difference depending on the directions the arms face, your average BEM* isn't aware of that.
PS: Screw these idiots!
*Booger Eating Moron
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HeroHog, wasn't all you wrote relevant to the swastika with the arms turned leftwards? ("卍") Whereas the Nazi swastika's arms turned right? ("卐")
Seems I recollect things being thataway. But, you know, 78yo, so....
In either case, while it may make "rational" sense, it doesn't make semantic sense, and they're idiots for trying to push that "interpretation."
Unless their real motive is to bring attention to their whole product line and they'll drop it with an apology later.
You know, on the "any publicity is good publicity" theory.
I mean, who ever heard of this outfit before?
For myself, I would use neither the right nor the left swastika for anything unless I wanted to create my "fifteen minutes of fame." But I like to keep a low profile anyhow.
Blowing the Reichstadt swastika. Closeups reveal that they used a Bangalore torpedo:
https://youtu.be/MJzdgZ1lOTA
Keep that incident in mind. It took over 400,000 U.S. military lives to destroy that symbol. Let's not wake it up again in any form whatsoever.
Terry, "follow the money," 230RN
REF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore_torpedo
I have nothing to add, other than I'm LOL'ing at the fact that there's a Unicode character for both a clockwise and counter-clockwise swastika.
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NOTE: Before the Nasis co opted it: When facing left, it is the Omote (front) Manji, representing love and mercy. Facing right, it represents strength and intelligence, and is called the Ura (rear facing) Omoje.
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So, next someone is going to rehabilitate the Confederate flag?
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So, next someone is going to rehabilitate the Confederate flag?
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I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one to see this as completely appropriate.
Yeah, but the one agreeing with you is me. =| Sorry about that.
Wait a tick - everyone else seems to be agreeing with me, too. That's - that's just weird.
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[Oddly detailed post about the history, migration pattern, and mating habits of the swastika.]
The swastika's not the only symbol to be culturally appropriated and trashed. The rainbow has for thousands of years been, at least in Judeo-Christian-influenced cultures, a symbol of God's promise that rainfall will no longer be an extinction-level event. So really, the LGBTUVWXYZ movement has been carrying around a symbol of the fact that God prefers to burn sinners now.
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[Oddly detailed post about the history, migration pattern, and mating habits of the swastika.]
I was watching a Vlog on YouTube about Japan and it mentioned that you would run across the swastika there properly used in its original context. I believe the text I posted was culled from some links I followed stemming from that and I saved the info in my "interesting/usefull stuff" file.
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Yeah, but the one agreeing with you is me. =| Sorry about that.
Wait a tick - everyone else seems to be agreeing with me, too. That's - that's just weird.
How about this one?
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I was watching a Vlog on YouTube about Japan and it mentioned that you would run across the swastika there properly used in its original context. I believe the text I posted was culled from some links I followed stemming from that and I saved the info in my "interesting/usefull stuff" file.
I'm in Japan now. I have noticed a few swastika every now and then, such as on shrines or even in logos. It seems to be used religiously.
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How about this one?
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Needs the sickle and hammer, like the first one, but rotating clockwise or to the right...
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Needs the sickle and hammer, like the first one, but rotating clockwise or to the right...
I didn't make this one, it's been around a while. I CAN modify it though... Notice it includes the Jews.
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Needs the sickle and hammer, like the first one, but rotating clockwise or to the right...
Here ya go
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The other clockwise...
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The other clockwise...
That IS clockwise. The "arms" trail not lead.
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Widdershins and deosil....
"Swing your partner, deosie-do. Round and round, the partners go."
Never mind.
Me go now.