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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Hawkmoon on October 20, 2017, 10:17:56 AM
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Now someone has done the same thing with an AR-15:
(https://gastatic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Snake4-1024x768.jpg)
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/gilboas-double-barreled-ar/
I wonder how closely regulated the barrels are. If they share a single set of sights, there has to be a single range at which the two trajectories cross, and beyond that they have to spread farther and farther apart. (Unless, of course, they immediately begin to diverge, in which case there's no distance at which both hit the same point-of-aim)
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Well, they've got double-barreled shotguns now, so POA=POI is not so significant there.
I had a side-mounted laser on a rifle (which would give the same parallax problem), so I just zeroed it about two inches to the left of POA. That way the error (which was admittedly small anyway) would stay the same disunirregardless of range. FYI this was a BSA laser sight on an M4gery I was just trying out. Got rid of the gun and sights recently anyhow.
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It's a novelty weapon. Accuracy is an afterthought.
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Will a bump-stock work on it ?
:angel:
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I wonder what the heck that thing weighs.
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Well, they've got double-barreled shotguns now, so POA=POI is not so significant there.
Ya know, I've heard of double-barreled shotguns. What'll these kids think of next, eh?
'Course, a 12-gauge tends to be a mite less accuracy critical than a .223.
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Somebody make a left eject saiga 12. I have a right eject and a welder.
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I wonder what the heck that thing weighs.
About twice what an AR weighs if I had to guess
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I'm waiting for a tri-barrel rifle where one is a tube-fed lever-action, the second is a box-fed pump-action and the last a belt-fed bolt-action.
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I'm waiting for a tri-barrel rifle where one is a tube-fed lever-action, the second is a box-fed pump-action and the last a belt-fed bolt-action.
No break-action? No revolver action?
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I assume the two sides are different calibers. Maybe even 308 and 5.56. So you don't have to decide. And ammo compatibility after SHTF.
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I assume the two sides are different calibers. Maybe even 308 and 5.56. So you don't have to decide. And ammo compatibility after SHTF.
Two calibers and one set of sights? That's brilliant.
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Two calibers and one set of sights? That's brilliant.
It probably doesn't have sights. Everyone uses aimbots nowadays anyway.
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Double rifles are nothing new. https://www.hollandandholland.com/gun-room/royal-double-rifle/ (https://www.hollandandholland.com/gun-room/royal-double-rifle/)
What the OP posted does not have anywhere near the class as an H&H though.
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I assume the two sides are different calibers.
.22LR and 7.62x54R, so you can find ammo anywhere.
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Wonder what happens with misfeeds/jams.
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General:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_gun
I point out that the article's "drilling" is only an Americanization of the the German "dreiling," meaning three calibers or barrels as in the German counting system: Einz, zwei, drei, vier, fünf = One, two, three, four, five...
Somebody ought to go in there and edit that.
Multi-barreled or chambered firearms are nothing new. There seems to be a subculture of fascination with them beyond the double-barreld shotgun and the African Dangerous Game double rifles.
See also:
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/7/3/i-have-this-old-gun-m30-luftwaffe-drilling/
Terry
NOTE: As a source of high amusement, see the wiki article on "Marble Game Getter" in the section on "Regulation":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Game_Getter#Regulation
Full article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Game_Getter
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well, you can do really fast double taps with it.
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I now has two multi barrel guns. 12ga/.222 over/under and a 16x16-9.3x72 drilling. Both slightly more classy than this. Someday I get the 12ga .30-06 drilling, just hopefully not soon.
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I now has two multi barrel guns. 12ga/.222 over/under and a 16x16-9.3x72 drilling. Both slightly more classy than this. Someday I get the 12ga .30-06 drilling, just hopefully not soon.
Working your way up to the 4-gauge, .50 BMG model?
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Working your way up to the 4-guage, .50 BMG model?
That would be awesome!!
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Double rifles are nothing new. https://www.hollandandholland.com/gun-room/royal-double-rifle/ (https://www.hollandandholland.com/gun-room/royal-double-rifle/)
I wonder if they take bitcoin.
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I now has two multi barrel guns. 12ga/.222 over/under and a 16x16-9.3x72 drilling. Both slightly more classy than this. Someday I get the 12ga .30-06 drilling, just hopefully not soon.
Local pawn shop used to have one that I really wanted as a SHTF food getter; 20ga/.22Hornet. Pound for pound, squirrels, rabbits, turkey, quail and dove are likely to be more of a hunter-gatherer diet than deer, and 20ga means fewer pellets to pick out of the meat, while having the .22Hornet means you can easily take a whitetail, feral hog or stray cow target of opportunity without having to switch guns.
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Gauge is spelled with the a before the u, as in a,e,i,o,u, that is, alphabetically.
Not being a jerk, but that's a pretty common spelling error.
If in doubt, use ga. or gage, which is an acceptable alternate spelling.
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Gauge is spelled with the a before the u, as in a,e,i,o,u
Not being a jerk, but that's a pretty common spelling error.
If in doubt, use ga. or gage, which is an acceptable alternate spelling.
Odd that the Firefox spell-checker didn't catch it.
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It's possible that someone entered the incorrect speling in they're machines' dictionary accidentally. Guage.
Nope, mine popped up as an error.
See attachment. I've done that with a few words and someday I'll figure out how to edit my dictionary to get rid of errors like that.
Now back to multi-barrel guns. WRT two barrels, I figure the best combo for around here would be .223 in the NATO chambering, 20 ga. on the bottom. Selectable by switch, single trigger, big hands, double triggers are not friendly to me. Don't know if that's mechanically possible, though, except for having a moveable firing pin on the hammer or a sliding action bar to have the hammer hit one or the other firing pin.
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It's possible that someone entered the incorrect speling in they're machines' dictionary accidentally. Guage.
Nope, mine popped up as an error.
See attachment. I've done that with a few words and someday I'll figure out how to edit my dictionary to get rid of errors like that.
Now back to multi-barrel guns. WRT two barrels, I figure the best combo for around here would be .223 in the NATO chambering, 20 ga. on the bottom. Selectable by switch, single trigger, big hands, double triggers are not friendly to me. Don't know if that's mechanically possible, though, except for having a moveable firing pin on the hammer.
Single selective trigger? Sure it's possible. I have an AYA double with that. Switched internally, not with a migrating firing pin. (The thing that's supposed to trip one or the other is unreliable on mine, and sometimes shoots both barrels at once. Stout.)
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Oh, added the sliding transfer bar concept before I read your post. Hadn't thought of it the first time around. Yeah, heavy recoil on double-firing. "Can still feel it on damp days."
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It's possible that someone entered the incorrect speling in they're machines' dictionary accidentally. Guage.
Nope, mine popped up as an error.
See attachment. I've done that with a few words and someday I'll figure out how to edit my dictionary to get rid of errors like that.
Now back to multi-barrel guns. WRT two barrels, I figure the best combo for around here would be .223 in the NATO chambering, 20 ga. on the bottom. Selectable by switch, single trigger, big hands, double triggers are not friendly to me. Don't know if that's mechanically possible, though, except for having a moveable firing pin on the hammer or a sliding action bar to have the hammer hit one or the other firing pin.
Years ago I had a co-worker that was a bit of a pedantic jackass. Particularly when it came to spelling. I'm usually pretty good with proper spelling but once in a while my brain moves a bit faster than I can "type" and I'll miss a letter or transpose a couple. I'd misspelled a fairly simple word in an email I'd sent him and he went on like I was some kind of illiterate hillbilly (I'll own the hillbilly label but I'm far from illiterate).
Aforementioned pedantic jackass also had a bad habit of not locking down his computer. He was dayshift, I worked nights. I spent weeks going into his computer and making subtle changes to the dictionary in his email client and MS Word.
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Oh, added the sliding transfer bar concept before I read your post. Hadn't thought of it the first time around. Yeah, heavy recoil on double-firing. "Can still feel it on damp days."
Dad has a 2 shot derringer chambered for .357 magnum. He wouldn't accept my suggestion to shoot .38 special in it, said it wasn't chambered for that because the roll mark only said .357 magnum. Dad's a life long hunter and gun owner but he isn't a "gun guy".
Anyway, we were down at the range doing a little plinking one afternoon and he decided to shoot the derringer. Something went wrong with it and it fired off both barrels. Dad being dad decided he need to know for sure if his gun needed to be fixed tried it again. Yup it needed to be fixed.
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Years ago I had a co-worker that was a bit of a pedantic jackass. Particularly when it came to spelling. I'm usually pretty good with proper spelling but once in a while my brain moves a bit faster than I can "type" and I'll miss a letter or transpose a couple. I'd misspelled a fairly simple word in an email I'd sent him and he went on like I was some kind of illiterate hillbilly (I'll own the hillbilly label but I'm far from illiterate).
Aforementioned pedantic jackass also had a bad habit of not locking down his computer. He was dayshift, I worked nights. I spent weeks going into his computer and making subtle changes to the dictionary in his email client and MS Word.
You low down ditry sitnker.
Let it be known that spelling errors and grammar don't bother me much, but that particular one on gauge occurs a lot on gun boards. (And I transopse letters accidentally, too.)
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Over the years, my typing has gotten worse. To the point I transpose letters, and even forget to type in entire words. I think it's because I'm composing on the fly, and get ahead of myself. Then I hit post before I go back and double check what I wrote.
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Over the years, my typing has gotten worse. To the point I transpose letters, and even forget to type in entire words. I think it's because I'm composing on the fly, and get ahead of myself. Then I hit post before I go back and double check what I wrote.
As I've gotten older, yes, all that. Even to the lever of different words than I thought I'd typed.
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Over the years, my typing has gotten worse. To the point I transpose letters, and even forget to type in entire words. I think it's because I'm composing on the fly, and get ahead of myself. Then I hit post before I go back and double check what I wrote.
Some days I am worse about that than others. I think you probably see that most of my posts say they are edited because I see some minor error to fix. It is worse when I spot the error later, but someone has already quoted me with the error. =(
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It is worse when I spot the error later, but someone has already quoted me with the error. =(
I hate it when that happens to me. And it happens far too often.
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I hate it when that happens to me. And it happens far too often.
And here I am reading what you quoted to see if I made an error. =)