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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: p12 on May 07, 2018, 03:55:16 PM
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What does the hive mind think of this?
Lt. Col. Oliver North to become NRA president, organization says
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/07/lt-col-oliver-north-to-become-nra-president-organization-says.html
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He's a traitor. We couldn't find anybody else?
IIRC he was convicted on several felonies, and the convictions were thrown out and the prosecutor chose not to retry (he wasn't acquitted) I don't remember the details; something about selling arm to the Iranians and destroying documents. The Iran-Contra Scandal.
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Oh good God, this is the best thing I have heard all day, month, maybe year.
Here we have a guy who's life was upended by the left wing media / bureaucracy machine mostly before we were aware one existed. And whatever he was involved in it looks like scout camp compared to the gun running McCain, Hillary, and Kerry were into, so go ahead and bring that up.
If you think a trump tweet triggers the media people grab your popcorn and melt some extra butter.
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No cushy job for Fawn Hall?
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He's a traitor. We couldn't find anybody else?
IIRC he was convicted on several felonies, and the convictions were thrown out and the prosecutor chose not to retry (he wasn't acquitted) I don't remember the details; something about selling arm to the Iranians and destroying documents. The Iran-Contra Scandal.
I have no opinion on him as NRA pres, but the bolded comment seems a little harsh. IIRC, the whole Iran-Contra arms sales thing was an executive branch thing, and while it was illegal I don't think it rises to "treasonous". It's not like he was doing it on his own, it was a sanctioned (by the executive) operation.
His convictions were vacated, because he had been granted immunity and they used part of that information against him.
Also, I can't be too mad at anyone charged with lying to congress, given that body's proclivity for untruthfulness.
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No cushy job for Fawn Hall?
No...she is shredding the ballots.
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What are North's positions on gun control?
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This is great.
Whenever the lefties point at North and say "He sold weapons to the Iranians," We say "Your messiah sold guns to mexican drug cartels and senta cargo plane full of American cash to Iran.
At least the operation that North was being questioned for was used to fund commie killers.
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I have no opinion on col north but it seems like a missed opportunity to elevate somebody like Colian Noir or Dana Loesch to the position. That would blow collective left gaskets. Oliver north plays a little too much to the stereotype.
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I have no opinion on col north but it seems like a missed opportunity to elevate somebody like Colian Noir or Dana Loesch to the position. That would blow collective left gaskets. Oliver north plays a little too much to the stereotype.
Yes, Colin Noir would be awesome, he's about as far away from a fudd as you can get.
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He's a traitor. We couldn't find anybody else?
IIRC he was convicted on several felonies, and the convictions were thrown out and the prosecutor chose not to retry (he wasn't acquitted) I don't remember the details; something about selling arm to the Iranians and destroying documents. The Iran-Contra Scandal.
North was a LT Col. at the time. Not exactly particularly high on the horse power scale at the pentagon. It's my opinion that there is absolutely ZERO probability that North was the head honcho in the Iran-Contra operation. Sure, a high level operator, maybe even in charge of the ground game but he damned sure didn't make it happen all on his own with out numerous higher brass knowing, condoning and facilitating what was afoot.
The whole Iran-Contra hearing BS was a dog and pony show orchestrated by the anti-American libtards in order to attempt to embarrass and discredit Reagan and Bush.
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North was a LT Col. at the time. Not exactly particularly high on the horse power scale at the pentagon. It's my opinion that there is absolutely ZERO probability that North was the head honcho in the Iran-Contra operation. Sure, a high level operator, maybe even in charge of the ground game but he damned sure didn't make it happen all on his own with out numerous higher brass knowing, condoning and facilitating what was afoot.
The whole Iran-Contra hearing BS was a dog and pony show orchestrated by the anti-American libtards in order to attempt to embarrass and discredit Reagan and Bush.
Yes, fall guy. We had those too in Libya, but the damn libyans killed them.
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I have no opinion on col north but it seems like a missed opportunity to elevate somebody like Colian Noir or Dana Loesch to the position. That would blow collective left gaskets. Oliver north plays a little too much to the stereotype.
I can agree with that. Not sure who it should be, but there are lots of other choices. Some like Colian certainly would make heads explode. I don't have a bad view of North, but I don't connect him to the gun debate at all.
I was thinking of Sheriff David Clarke, but I don't know much about him.
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French G. remarked, "If you think a trump tweet triggers the media people grab your popcorn and melt some extra butter."
Yeah, my first thought was that it gives the left another chance to crank their slander machines up to eleven.
Terry, 230RN
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I can agree with that. Not sure who it should be, but there are lots of other choices. Some like Colian certainly would make heads explode. I don't have a bad view of North, but I don't connect him to the gun debate at all.
I was thinking of Sheriff David Clarke, but I don't know much about him.
Yeah, Clarke seems like a good pick.
And it's Colion; two o's.
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Is Nathan Filion available? If someone tries to kill you, you kill em right back.
Come to think of it, Adam Baldwin would be perfect. Mass triggering.
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Sheriff Clarke has made an entire career out of poking liberals in the eyes, for fun and for profit. He would make a solid President.
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French G. remarked, "If you think a trump tweet triggers the media people grab your popcorn and melt some extra butter."
Yeah, my first thought was that it gives the left another chance to crank their slander machines up to eleven.
North is a horrible pick, for this reason.
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North is a horrible pick, for this reason.
Would you prefer someone who will appease the gun-grabbers? Or someone who will be fine with "common sense gun control?"
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I have no opinion on col north but it seems like a missed opportunity to elevate somebody like Colian Noir or Dana Loesch to the position. That would blow collective left gaskets. Oliver north plays a little too much to the stereotype.
I was thinking of Sheriff David Clarke, but I don't know much about him.
Mr. Noir and Mrs. Loesch are far too young. The position of President is not merely a spokesman position, and Mrs. Loesch already HAS that job.
On Mr. Clarke, I'm not sure how involved he has already been with the NRA. Generally an organization would prefer to select someone who has been working with them for many years, and not someone who is merely aligned with them politically. They also prefer to elevate someone who has already served on the Board of Directors, illustrating a significant commitment already.
(In fact, I'm not sure on the bylaws, does the President have to be selected from the existing board? Most organizations have rules along those lines.)
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Would you prefer someone who will appease the gun-grabbers? Or someone who will be fine with "common sense gun control?"
I'd prefer Chuck Norris.
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Mr. Noir and Mrs. Loesch are far too young. The position of President is not merely a spokesman position, and Mrs. Loesch already HAS that job.
On Mr. Clarke, I'm not sure how involved he has already been with the NRA. Generally an organization would prefer to select someone who has been working with them for many years, and not someone who is merely aligned with them politically. They also prefer to elevate someone who has already served on the Board of Directors, illustrating a significant commitment already.
(In fact, I'm not sure on the bylaws, does the President have to be selected from the existing board? Most organizations have rules along those lines.)
Did Charleton Heston fit that definition? I thought the position of President of the NRA was mostly a figurehead these days.
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Did Charleton Heston fit that definition? I thought the position of President of the NRA was mostly a figurehead these days.
He was a member of the board before being elevated to president. (Only for a year, but still served on the board first.)
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Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military. He seems way too in love with himself and state power. With him, Sheriff Joe, and coward Israel I am leant towards automatically distrusting any tv cop.
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Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military. He seems way too in love with himself and state power.
Hmmm. I hadn't thought of it that way before. That's very interesting.
With him, Sheriff Joe, and coward Israel I am leant towards automatically distrusting any tv cop.
Well, forget what I just said, cuz that's nuts.
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Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military. He seems way too in love with himself and state power. With him, Sheriff Joe, and coward Israel I am leant towards automatically distrusting any tv cop.
Good guys, especially good politicians, are few and far between in Milwaukee county, Clarke was one a f them.
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Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military. He seems way too in love with himself and state power. With him, Sheriff Joe, and coward Israel I am leant towards automatically distrusting any tv cop.
Didn't Clarke voluntarily step down a year or so ago?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Clarke_(sheriff)
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Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military. He seems way too in love with himself and state power. With him, Sheriff Joe, and coward Israel I am leant towards automatically distrusting any tv cop.
Quoted for truth. I have always gotten an uneasy feeling about him as well.
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North was on the National Security Council in the White House at the time, not the Pentagon. Congress (controlled by D's) had passed the treasonous Boland Amendment which prohibited aid to the Contra's in Nicaragua.
He sold (older) TOW missiles to to Iran (in the middle of the Iraq-Iran War) to encourage them to help get hostages in Lebanon released and the proceeds were used to fund the Contra's. While I'm not happy that he sold missiles to Iran, at least it wasn't pallets of cash and we were playing both sides as we were also selling weapons to Iraq.
He's been very active with NRA for many years now, and is very, very pro-2A. One of the best speeches he's given at an NRA Annual Meeting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLOjIKt7wOk
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Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military.
Wait, what? Why would a sheriff join the military, to be on TV, or to be in uniform? ???
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North was on the National Security Council in the White House at the time, not the Pentagon. Congress (controlled by D's) had passed the treasonous Boland Amendment which prohibited aid to the Contra's in Nicaragua.
He sold (older) TOW missiles to to Iran (in the middle of the Iraq-Iran War) to encourage them to help get hostages in Lebanon released and the proceeds were used to fund the Contra's. While I'm not happy that he sold missiles to Iran, at least it wasn't pallets of cash and we were playing both sides as we were also selling weapons to Iraq.
He's been very active with NRA for many years now, and is very, very pro-2A. One of the best speeches he's given at an NRA Annual Meeting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLOjIKt7wOk
Actually that bold part is mostly false. It was widely claimed around the time of the second Iraq war especially by Michael Moore; but the US never really sold weapons to Iraq. We did assist with intelligence. There was a sale of non military helicopters, and there were some potential deals that were never completed. The vast majority of weapons sales was Russia and France, followed by other European countries and South Africa and the like. There used to be a paper publicly available that I’ve lost track of that listed sales of all weapons by country of Origin to Iraq. - This is the site http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
I probably wouldn’t have picked North, I’m not really sure what his opinion on various firearms issues are. I seem to recall conflicting or maybe evolving opinions on so called assault weapons. I may be misremembering though.
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I guess I would backtrack a little and say I have no issue with the pick. I had no idea he was active with the NRA and it surprised me. I will have to listen to that speech.
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All I know is that he'll make the left collectively lose their sheet.
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All I know is that he'll make the left collectively lose their sheet.
And that is good enough for me.
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And that is good enough for me.
Exactly
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Quote from: 230RN on May 07, 2018, 06:51:51 PM
French G. remarked, "If you think a trump tweet triggers the media people grab your popcorn and melt some extra butter."
Yeah, my first thought was that it gives the left another chance to crank their slander machines up to eleven.
North is a horrible pick, for this reason.
I said "slander machine," which is apparently becoming their own undoing. Or I hope so anyhow.
Terry