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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: 230RN on June 25, 2018, 04:23:43 PM
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I've often wondered about that...
https://youtu.be/6vu3WJpA6Q8 (Longish, 11:03)
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Some folks are shameless!
Check out this video about people copying from others:
https://youtu.be/6vu3WJpA6Q8 (somewhat long at 11+ minutes)
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One of the few plots I'm aware of that seemed original to me was in an episode of the mid-80s TV show, Crazy like a Fox. In it, a man was released from prison after serving his full 20 year old sentence for murdering his wife. Thing is - he didn't do it, and she was in fact still alive. So he went to a lawyer to see if double jeopardy laws would protect him from being tried again for killing the same woman he was convicted of murdering 20 years earlier. The lawyer told him he couldn't expect to get away with murder, but the guy said he DID'T get away with it - he paid his debt to society in full with 20 years in prison, and figured the State owed him a freebie. Much hilarity ensued.
THIS plot was later lifted for the 1999 movie Double Jeopardy.
I don't know if there was something based on this premise earlier than the TV show.
I think someone once wrote that virtually all plots we have today hearken back to the ancient Greeks . . .
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nihil sub sole novum
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Some folks are shameless!
Check out this video about people copying from others:
https://youtu.be/6vu3WJpA6Q8 (somewhat long at 11+ minutes)
Tee-hee.
I still don't buy the Hidden Fortress thing, and I thought Yojimbo was based on Red Harvest? ???
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Plot plagiarism is nothing new. In fact, some are downright surprising.
Seven Samurai = Magnificent Seven = A Bugs Life.
Brad
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Some folks are shameless!
Check out this video about people copying from others:
https://youtu.be/6vu3WJpA6Q8 (somewhat long at 11+ minutes)
Took me a minute to get that one. :facepalm: Duh.
Roffle X 11ty.
RKL: "nihil sub sole novum"
Thanks to my Altar Boy training, I didn't have to go to an online translator for that one.
Terry
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Tee-hee.
I still don't buy the Hidden Fortress thing, and I thought Yojimbo was based on Red Harvest? ???
Very similar plots, different setting. Red Harvest, Yojimbo, Fistful of Dollars, Last Man Standing.
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Very similar plots, different setting. Red Harvest, Yojimbo, Fistful of Dollars, Last Man Standing.
Yesterday, I saw "Last Man Standing" in a thread title, and I actually did expect a discussion about the Bruce Willis/Christopher Walken film. :facepalm:
(https://cache.moviestillsdb.com/sm/63c1c2165ecdff5d9fb1f3f9aee7b5f7/last-man-standing.jpg)
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I've often wondered about that...
https://youtu.be/6vu3WJpA6Q8 (Longish, 11:03)
11 minutes and not one mention of Airplane! and Zero Hour. Bah!
Here, see for yourself: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-v2BHNBVCs
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Surely, you know that was intentional?
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Don't call me Shirley
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Don't watch To Have and Have Not and Casablanca too close together.
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Will I be shocked! Shocked to find that plagiarism is going on in here?
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Will I be shocked! Shocked to find that plagiarism is going on in here?
I don't know. There are just a lot of similarities.
Hemingway published a book called To Have and Have Not in 1937, based on some of his earlier stories. Then, in 1940, someone wrote the play that would become the film, Casablanca. I haven't read them, so I don't know how similar they might be. There are, apparently, a number of differences between the 1940 play, and Casablanca. Then, after Casablanca, Hemingway's book was turned into a screenplay, by Hemingway, Howard Hawks, William Faulkner, and another writer. That's a lot of talent in one screenplay, so there wouldn't seem to be any need to plagiarize. But there are a number of similarities.
As the movie was filmed during World War II, Hawks moved the setting from Cuba to Vichy-controlled Martinique to placate the Roosevelt administration. They objected to the unfavorable portrayal of Cuba's government as against the U.S. government's "Good Neighbor" policy toward Latin American nations. This change created many similarities to the plot of Bogart's earlier, highly successful Casablanca (1942). Other changes tended in the same direction, such as the introduction of a sympathetic piano player as an important supporting character. Carmichael's Cricket was not in the Hemingway book, and parallels Dooley Wilson's Sam in Casablanca. Several cast members from Casablanca also appear in the film; apart from Bogart and Dalio (Emil in Casablanca), Dan Seymour (Abdul in Casablanca) plays Captain Renard, whose name and position parallel Captain Renault in Casablanca. As in Casablanca, Bogart's initially reluctant character assists husband-and-wife Resistance members.
Also, both movies have Bogart reluctantly rescue a freedom fighter, and his beautiful wife, from the Nazis. In both, he holds Vichy officials at gunpoint, to execute his plan.
But all that stuff about the backstory of the film is coming straight from Wikipedia. It's worth what you paid for it.
Casablanca (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca_(film))
To Have and Have Not (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Have_and_Have_Not_(film))
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Surely, you know that was intentional?
I want you both to know that it was so intentional, that they bought the rights to zero hour before they made the movie, so they COULD copy it shamelessly.
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I want you both to know that it was so intentional, that they bought the rights to zero hour before they made the movie, so they COULD copy it shamelessly.
I don't let facts get in the way of my story.
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I don't let facts get in the way of my story.
But where'd you get the story?
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But where'd you get the story?
The internets.
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The internets.
I want you both to know that it was so intentional, that they bought the rights to zero hour before they made the movie, so they COULD copy it shamelessly.
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That all makes sense. I remember watching the movie El Dorado and thinking that it was a big rip off of movie Rio Bravo from several years prior. Those actors ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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nihil sub sole novum
You stole that from the Romans, you plagiarizing shitlord.
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I want you both to know that it was so intentional, that they bought the rights to zero hour before they made the movie, so they COULD copy it shamelessly.
I want you to know that it was so intentional, that they bought the rights to zero hour before they made the movie, so they COULD copy it shamelessly.
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You stole that from the Romans, you plagiarizing shitlord.
They had reruns too? [tinfoil] [popcorn] [tinfoil] :lol:
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You stole that from the Romans, you plagiarizing shitlord.
So the Romans stole it from the Old Testament:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+1%3A9&version=NIV
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So the Romans stole it from the Old Testament:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+1%3A9&version=NIV
See? Plagiarism again.
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See? Plagiarism again.
Exactly.
And don't get me started on all the gods they stole from the Greeks . . .
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They had reruns too? [tinfoil] [popcorn] [tinfoil] :lol:
Yeah, think about how many times the Iliad was repeated before someone finally wrote it down.
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I want you to know that it was so intentional, that they bought the rights to zero hour before they made the movie, so they COULD copy it shamelessly.
I want you both to know that it was so intentional, that they bought the rights to zero hour before they made the movie, so they COULD copy it shamelessly.
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I want everybody to know to know that it was intentional. The producers purchased the rights to Zero Hour before they made the other movie, so they could copy it legally.
Terry
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But re- re- plagiarized.
:D