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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: TechMan on July 25, 2018, 04:49:32 PM

Title: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: TechMan on July 25, 2018, 04:49:32 PM
The City of San Francisco, after having cured all that is ailing the city, is now considering banning employee cafeterias in future office buildings (https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article215493815.html). Backers claim it represents more than an effort to boost the city's restaurant scene.  Evidently San Fran is not the first to do this, Mountain View CA has banned Facebook's new offices (https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Mountain-View-s-unusual-rule-for-Facebook-No-13096100.php?utm_campaign=sfgate&utm_source=article&utm_medium=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fbusiness%2Farticle%2FTech-industry-s-coveted-office-cafeterias-could-13101014.php%3Ft%3Db9e33bac72) from having a cafeteria with free food for about 2,000 employees.
Title: Re: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: Scout26 on July 25, 2018, 05:01:14 PM
So the people that would have been employed working in the FB cafeteria, are now able to enjoy more free time to pursue their passions.  At least that's what Nancy Pelosi told us....
Title: Re: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 25, 2018, 05:10:37 PM
Free food?
Hell, I'd just like to not have to pay $450 a year for the privilege of parking at work?
Title: Re: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: just Warren on July 25, 2018, 05:46:41 PM
If it was my company  would bet on my lawyers being better than whoever wrote this statute.

There will be loopholes. And my people will exploit them faster than the drones who work for the city can find and close them.

I could just tell them that we aren't providing free meals and make them prove that we are and make it into a huge legal battle for every little document or access to the facility. Draw the whole thing out and get them to make legal errors that I could exploit later.

I could institute a credits program where you get company scrip for doing things unrelated to your job or pay. Like making a phone call on behalf of a charity or sending an e-mail to someone or some other small thing and with this scrip you can buy company merch and/or use it in the cafeteria. It would be set up so that  only 10 minutes a week will get you enough scrip for a month of cafeteria visits. And of course the legal battle will be just as intense as in the first example.

If the statute only says "employees" then I could possibly subsidize non-employees. If so then I can invite friends and relatives of my workers to come enjoy the food and if they want to be served much more food than they can eat and then give that extra food to their friend or relative I don't see how that can be an issue.

Or perhaps finagle using tour groups to do the same thing. Say everyday you have multiple groups come in for "eat with an engineer day" they do their tour and then retire to the cafeteria where they are assigned to one or more employees and then the tourist gets to place an order for as much food as they want, taking input from the employees of course, and then it's off to the tables to talk about things.

I could charge for the food up front but when it's yearly bonus time the money makes it way back to the workers.



Title: Re: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: griz on July 25, 2018, 06:01:53 PM
If the city is going to require the employer to pay you 15 dollars an hour it only makes sense that you also be required to pay somebody else an hour or two's wages for the privilege of eating lunch.

Seriously, are they going to outlaw lunch boxes too?
Title: Re: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 25, 2018, 06:02:42 PM
If each employee opts in for $1 a month, it isn't free now, is it.

Brad
Title: Re: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: 230RN on July 25, 2018, 08:08:04 PM
Ah thank thet there water out there's a wee bit pizened.  Mebbe that's why them circuit judges out thar been drinkin' water from Iderho and Montanee o' late.
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Councilmember Jason Dominguez countered that “we can’t always count on common sense,” adding, “We have to regulate every aspect of people’s lives.”

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Councilmember Jason Dominguez countered that “we can’t always count on common sense,” adding, “We have to regulate every aspect of people’s lives.”

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Councilmember Jason Dominguez countered that “we can’t always count on common sense,” adding, “We have to regulate every aspect of people’s lives.”

Bears repeating.

Title: Re: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: MikeB on July 25, 2018, 08:20:31 PM
So they want people to go out and drive around unnecessarily burning fossil fuels to get lunch instead of eating in an employee cafeteria?
Title: Re: San Francisco - Eat lunch with the rest of us
Post by: freakazoid on July 25, 2018, 08:50:26 PM
The City of San Francisco, after having cured all that is ailing the city, is now considering banning employee cafeterias in future office buildings (https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article215493815.html). Backers claim it represents more than an effort to boost the city's restaurant scene.  Evidently San Fran is not the first to do this, Mountain View CA has banned Facebook's new offices (https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Mountain-View-s-unusual-rule-for-Facebook-No-13096100.php?utm_campaign=sfgate&utm_source=article&utm_medium=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fbusiness%2Farticle%2FTech-industry-s-coveted-office-cafeterias-could-13101014.php%3Ft%3Db9e33bac72) from having a cafeteria with free food for about 2,000 employees.

So they are doing this to protect their local markets. I wonder what their thoughts are on Trump's "trade wars". [popcorn]