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Title: Pro-choice jerk kicks anti-abortion activist in the [s]face[/s] shoulder.
Post by: just Warren on October 04, 2018, 02:34:37 PM
He then yells that he only meant to kick her phone. (https://youtu.be/O09xfaW9-y0)

Well, so what? That's still assault is it not? Regardless of intent, your foot still struck her and you kicked on purpose.

So if we could get the APS Lawyer Brigade to step up and see if his intent matters as regards to what statute he'd be prosecuted under. As I said I don't think it does, but I'm not a lawyer.

And are things different for a tort? Does his stated intent mitigate anything on the civil side?


On a philosophical note this proves yet again that the left's ideology is rooted in violence against individuals. Always has been and always makes itself known in both large and small ways.

Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: MillCreek on October 04, 2018, 03:26:33 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

Ideology rooted in violence against individuals seems to span the political spectrum.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: MechAg94 on October 04, 2018, 04:45:17 PM
So if he kicked her hand that was holding the phone, would that not still be assault?
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Pb on October 04, 2018, 05:02:59 PM
Abortion is the most extreme violence imaginable.  Tearing innocent human beings to shreds. 

Of course abortionists are violent.  Kicking people in the face is nothing.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 04, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
The video illustrates just how loosely wrapped the leftists are. Corner them and make them confront the inconsistencies of their position, and their heads explode. But they accuse conservatives of being violent ...
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: T.O.M. on October 04, 2018, 08:10:29 PM
In Ohio, criminal Assault (Revised Code 2903.13) is defined as knowingly causing or attempting to cause physical harm to another.  Physical harm means any injury of any degree, so basically an ouchie and up.  Knowingly means regardless of intention, a person acts knowingly if their act is likely to cause a certain result.  So you kick someone's hand, it is likely it's gonna hurt.  Hit the head in the process, you lose.

Long story short, in my world, this guy loses on an Assault charge.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Ben on October 04, 2018, 08:46:19 PM
I read about this before it was posted here, but can't find the article anymore. I thought it said this happened in Canada. The assault aside, they seem to not care as much about personal property rights there as we do. As in, if this isn't assault, the common consensus up there is, "who cares, it's just a phone." (i.e., the typical socialist, "nobody owns things" crap). Commies.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 04, 2018, 09:35:42 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

Ideology rooted in violence against individuals seems to span the political spectrum.

Well, if you want to go there, some parts of the political spectrum are fiercely dedicated to making sure more babies are deliberately killed. Others are opposed to such. Yay, moral equivalence.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: MillCreek on October 04, 2018, 11:06:02 PM
Well, if you want to go there, some parts of the political spectrum are fiercely dedicated to making sure more babies are deliberately killed. Others are opposed to such and show their opposition by murdering medical workers and destroying medical facilities. Yay, moral equivalence.

Since you went there, I wanted to ensure the moral equivalence was spelled out.  And in before the lock.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 05, 2018, 01:40:30 AM
Quote from: Millcreek
Well, if you want to go there, some parts of the political spectrum are fiercely dedicated to making sure more babies are deliberately killed. Others are opposed to such and show their opposition by murdering medical workers and destroying medical facilities. Yay, moral equivalence.

Your addition is misleading for a few different reasons. (your addition in bold)

For starters, you've inserted anti-abortion political violence into the discussion, while leaving out pro-abortion political violence, and other troubling aspects of that movement. So if you wanted to be fair, it would have looked a bit more like this:

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Well, if you want to go there, some parts of the political spectrum are fiercely dedicated to making sure more babies are deliberately killed, and show their dedication by beating up girls, tearing up signs they disagree with, making sure clinics like Kermit Gosnell's don't have to abide by even Civil War era medical practices, selling fetal body parts, and ignoring the sexual abuse of minors. Others are opposed to such and show their opposition by murdering medical workers and destroying medical facilities. Yay, moral equivalence.

But even that wording is not fair, because it suggests that only extremists take a position on either side.

Additionally, it is misleading to refer to abortion providers as "medical workers," or abortion mills as "medical facilities."

Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Scout26 on October 05, 2018, 01:44:42 AM
I will point out two things.

1)  Keep it civil.  Everyone.

2)  We have spent the past several weeks dealing with an attempted smear of a USSC nominee simply because the pro-abortion left is afraid he'll over turn Roe v Wade. 
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Ben on October 05, 2018, 08:43:43 AM
Well, it was in Canada, and the guy has been fired from his job:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/hairstylist-seen-in-video-kicking-pro-life-demonstrator-loses-job-may-face-charges
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: K Frame on October 05, 2018, 08:51:21 AM
The lady who was kicked is HAWT.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: DittoHead on October 05, 2018, 12:30:17 PM
Quote from: The Victim
“I don’t think it’s acceptable to show any physical violence to anyone who disagrees with you. The perpetrator should know that.”
This shouldn't even need to be said, but apparently it does. (Repeatedly, and to people across the ideological spectrum.)

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He then yells that he only meant to kick her phone.
I mostly believe him. That guy was acting downright goofy, not very agitated. Even the way he wound up - seemed like he was trying for some sort of ridiculous move that didn't turn out how he planned. But the intent doesn't really matter, because it was a really dumb idea and he did kick her.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: bedlamite on October 05, 2018, 12:37:06 PM
So does sticking your tongue out like that do anything other than make you look like a complete fool?
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: K Frame on October 05, 2018, 12:46:03 PM
The lady who was kicked is HAWT.

Oh poo.

There goes my chances at sitting on the Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: lee n. field on October 06, 2018, 10:16:29 AM
This shouldn't even need to be said, but apparently it does. (Repeatedly, and to people across the ideological spectrum.)

"Bash the fasch, man, bash the fasch!"

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I mostly believe him. That guy was acting downright goofy, not very agitated. Even the way he wound up - seemed like he was trying for some sort of ridiculous move that didn't turn out how he planned.

Watching too much TeeVee (or equivalent).  Cartoon violence =/= real violence.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: MechAg94 on October 06, 2018, 10:58:10 AM
Oh poo.

There goes my chances at sitting on the Supreme Court.
Maybe you can still get appointed as an SC technical writer.   =)
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: KD5NRH on October 06, 2018, 11:21:56 AM
So does sticking your tongue out like that do anything other than make you look like a complete fool?

It makes even a light uppercut so much more effective.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 06, 2018, 11:42:54 AM
So does sticking your tongue out like that do anything other than make you look like a complete fool?

But he already looked like a complete fool.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 07, 2018, 11:46:09 PM
I was at a Life Chain today, and a car going by rear-ended another. No one was hurt, but still a fairly solid hit. I was told the driver was distracted, which is to say, distracted by waving her middle finger at us.

Hey, at least she wasn't mansplaining, like the gent in the OP.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: 230RN on October 07, 2018, 11:51:40 PM
Had to look it up::

http://www.nationallifechain.org/

Sounds like a worthy outfit.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Jamisjockey on October 08, 2018, 08:38:11 AM
If only he had used a pipe bomb instead....
Then he'd be a hero!  Oh, it's only anti-abortionists who make heroes out of pipe bombers...
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: makattak on October 08, 2018, 09:51:32 AM
If only he had used a pipe bomb instead....
Then he'd be a hero!  Oh, it's only anti-abortionists who make heroes out of pipe bombers...

<Citation Needed>
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk kicks anti-abortion activist in the [s]face[/s] shoulder.
Post by: just Warren on October 08, 2018, 01:26:29 PM
Hmm, the dude allegedly has a history of violence. (https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/pro-choice-man-who-allegedly-kicked-pro-life-woman-is-in-more-trouble-than-we-thought/)
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Ron on October 08, 2018, 01:56:31 PM
If only he had used a pipe bomb instead....
Then he'd be a hero!  Oh, it's only anti-abortionists who make heroes out of pipe bombers...


What a sad and pathetic straw man you’ve argued against there!

While I get that arguing in favor of the liberal mass slaughter of unborn human beings is difficult, trying to deflect and paint milllions and millions of pro-life Americans with same brush as one murderous unbalanced person shows the bankruptcy of your position.

There is no moral equivalency between pro-life and pro-abortion.

One is, well, pro life and the other is pro death.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: MechAg94 on October 08, 2018, 04:02:03 PM
nm
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: Andiron on October 08, 2018, 08:31:34 PM
If only he had used a pipe bomb instead....
Then he'd be a hero!  Oh, it's only anti-abortionists who make heroes out of pipe bombers...


Weak sauce,  even against Fistful.
Title: Re: Pro-choice jerk roundhouse kicks anti-abortion activist in the face.
Post by: RocketMan on October 08, 2018, 10:47:24 PM
If only he had used a pipe bomb instead....
Then he'd be a hero!  Oh, it's only anti-abortionists who make heroes out of pipe bombers...

Come on, Jamis.  You're better than that.