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You can search the various articles. I saw the Soros one the other day, and my first thought was International, since he has pissed off a lot of Eastern Euros that don't take *expletive deleted*it from people.
Clinton and Obama as well in the last 24 hours? Sorry, I gotta put on the tinfoil and say Left extremist setup.
Also, these are not just threats. "Devices" have been found in each case. Real or fake is up in the air.
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It's the left's latest October Surprise, along w/ the mob that threatened Pelosi last week … in this way the Right has to stop talking about the left's violent tactics … :old:
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Why is it that "false flag" was my first thought when I saw this...
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Why is it that "false flag" was my first thought when I saw this...
Because it has all the earmarks of a false flag operation?
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Looks like one was mailed to the Whitehouse too.
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Looks like one was mailed to the Whitehouse too.
My understanding is that one was addressed to Obama.
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Some folks on both sides seem to be chomping at the bit for things to go hot.
The best play IMHO is how Trump is handling things.
He keeps giving the left opportunities to reveal what’s under their masks. BOO! It’s scary.
Trump more than any politician is relying on votes. Our votes, congressional votes.
He is a master persuader.
I doubt Trump wants things to go hot. I’m not so sure about the swamp creatures though. They might see some benefit and utility to chaos and violence if they can blame the right.
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My understanding is that one was addressed to Obama.
Typical USPS package handling speed, then.
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CNN is retracting the Whitehouse story...
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The only thing that makes me think this might be a false flag is how close to the election this is.
None of these people are standing for office and even if the attacks were successful, it would have absolutely zero bearing on the election. (Except to make people aghast and possibly help the Democrats.) The timing is questionable.
HOWEVER, it's only a possibility, because the people who would mail a bomb to someone do not tend to be particularly rational. So, pointing out that the attacks are likely counter-productive is most definitely not a disqualifier for their source.
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Occam's Razor says it is all from one right-wing whacko.
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Because it has all the earmarks of a false flag operation?
All the earmarks? We barely know anything ???
Is it possible? Sure. Is it the most likely explanation? Sorry, but no.
Occam's Razor says it is all from one right-wing whacko.
And apparently we're up to 4 now (not including Soros):
- 1 addressed to Hillary Clinton
- 1 to former President Barack Obama
- 1 to the building that houses CNN's office in New York City
- 1 to Wasserman Schultz, former chairwoman of the DNC
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Occam's Razor says it is all from one right-wing whacko.
Left wing would fit recent history of violence better. They aren't far enough left.
But yes, it is all guessing until the facts are known.
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CNN is retracting the Whitehouse story...
Saw that too
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Stay tuned.
- Soros
- Clinton
- Obama
- Wasserman-Shultz
- San Diego Union Tribune (but Kamala Harris has an office in that building)
- Eric Holder
- John Brennan
Somebody has been very busy.
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What's Ted Kaczynski been up to lately ??
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My guess; she mailed all of them and that one was returned as undeliverable.
Key evidence; none of them have gone off. Not even from the atrocious handling packages tend to get. Somebody dumb has been busy.
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My guess; she mailed all of them and that one was returned as undeliverable.
Key evidence; none of them have gone off. Not even from the atrocious handling packages tend to get. Somebody dumb has been busy.
THIS is an important point.
Some nutjob trying to kill people with this many bombs would have had one go off already. These may be either purposely hoaxes (like the "Ricin" that was sent to Republican Senators) or, as noted, false flags.
It's looking less likely to actually be someone trying to kill people, to me at least.
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THIS is an important point.
Some nutjob trying to kill people with this many bombs would have had one go off already. These may be either purposely hoaxes (like the "Ricin" that was sent to Republican Senators) or, as noted, false flags.
It's looking less likely to actually be someone trying to kill people, to me at least.
The lack of explosions, to me, makes the idea that it's a false flag operation designed to generate sympathy and support for the Democrats appear more and more likely.
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What's Ted Kaczynski been up to lately ??
According to the FBoP, still at Florence ADMAX USP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence).
THEODORE JOHN KACZYNSKI
Register Number: 04475-046
Age: 76
Race: White
Sex: Male
Located at: Florence ADMAX USP
Release Date: LIFE
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Right on cue, George Soros’ son, Alexander Soros penned a New York Times op-ed blaming President Trump for the mail bombs.
[popcorn]
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/right-on-cue-in-nyt-op-ed-soros-son-blames-trump-and-demonization-of-political-opponents-for-bomb-packages/
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What does "device" mean?
Perhaps the innards of a digital clock that have been removed and placed inside a pencil box?
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So can we rethink that "Civility in Politics" thing now?
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From an AP report:
Two law enforcement officials, speaking to AP on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation, said the pipe bomb at CNN was crude but operational and was addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan, who regularly appears as a television contributor and who has publicly clashed with Trump. They said it was similar to other explosives discovered in the past few days.
The device was mailed in an envelope to CNN's offices on Columbus Circle using six stamps. It was compact, perhaps about the length of a wooden spoon, and contained wires and a black pipe, officials said.
Sounds like the worlds smallest pipe bombs, intended to make a statement, rather than any actual damage. There are plenty of nutty right-wingers out there that might do such a thing, but my gut is leaning toward false flags as well.
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I thought CNN's was delivered by courier … [popcorn]
Also, the lack of a postmark on the package was explained as it was delivered by courier, reported CNN’s Kate Hinman.
“Law enforcement sources tell @ShimonPro the package sent to CNN was delivered by courier, not mailed.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/reporter-isis-flag-on-cnn-brennan-mail-bomb/
edited: not sure if deleted statement was correct
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[popcorn]
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/right-on-cue-in-nyt-op-ed-soros-son-blames-trump-and-demonization-of-political-opponents-for-bomb-packages/
Yeah, leaning towards false flag here.
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Occam's Razor says it is all from one right-wing whacko.
Occam's Razor is a dullard. [tinfoil]
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Open one dollar bet to all takers that it was NOT anyone that can be considered conservative. :old:
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From an AP report:
Sounds like the worlds smallest pipe bombs, intended to make a statement, rather than any actual damage. There are plenty of nutty right-wingers out there that might do such a thing, but my gut is leaning toward false flags as well.
Sounds like the world's most pathetic description. "About the length of a wooden spoon?" Hell, those usually come in a pack of three lengths. Was it also crayon colored?
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Sounds like the world's most pathetic description. "About the length of a wooden spoon?" Hell, those usually come in a pack of three lengths. Was it also crayon colored?
Please keep accusations about the Marines out of this.
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Please keep accusations about the Marines out of this.
I didn't see any claims about how the "bombs" tasted.
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https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1055191784618307584
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Composite sketch of bomber.
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https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1055191784618307584
:rofl:
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Inside sources release some photos of additional "bombs" that were sent to top democrats.
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Only thing that really bothers me is to look at that picture and see all the obvious stuff. I have had security training on spotting stuff like this and it is like someone took the training and made a checklist. Misspellings, wrong postage, not cancelled, odd shaped, poorly taped, etc. So is it possible that a pro did this and the trail leads either nowhere or to some internet Lee Harvey?
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The only image I've seen is this one:
(https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_43/2617906/181024-cnn-pipe-bomb-handout-red-stroke-ew-358p_18cdf1a36995998ba4be6bb12ae387f3.fit-1240w.jpg)
Ignoring the political label on the "bomb" itself, how is a package delivered without the stamps being canceled?
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The only image I've seen is this one:
(https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_43/2617906/181024-cnn-pipe-bomb-handout-red-stroke-ew-358p_18cdf1a36995998ba4be6bb12ae387f3.fit-1240w.jpg)
Ignoring the political label on the "bomb" itself, how is a package delivered without the stamps being canceled?
They are saying that this one was delivered via Courier, hence no stamp cancellation.
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OK, that makes sense. The stamps threw me off. Anybody know if the bombs have been determined to be live when delivered?
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OK, that makes sense. The stamps threw me off. Anybody know if the bombs have been determined to be live when delivered?
Reporting has been very vague about the ability of these devices to detonate.
That has me suspecting they were inert when delivered.
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They are saying that this one was delivered via Courier, hence no stamp cancellation.
Then why use postage stamps at all?
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Then why use postage stamps at all?
If I were to guess:
Only thing that really bothers me is to look at that picture and see all the obvious stuff. I have had security training on spotting stuff like this and it is like someone took the training and made a checklist. Misspellings, wrong postage, not cancelled, odd shaped, poorly taped, etc. So is it possible that a pro did this and the trail leads either nowhere or to some internet Lee Harvey?
It's something that might make people think it went through the mail, or alternatively, it clearly makes it a bomb threat. (At least a "suspicious package.")
And, as reporting is coming out that these "devices" had no ability to detonate at all, we're going to ignore them like the "ricin" letters to Republicans, right?
Oh, no, these were sent to DEMOCRATS, so a hoax attack is now an IMPORTANT! INDICATION! OF POLITICAL CLIMATE!
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Only thing that really bothers me is to look at that picture and see all the obvious stuff. I have had security training on spotting stuff like this and it is like someone took the training and made a checklist. Misspellings, wrong postage, not cancelled, odd shaped, poorly taped, etc. So is it possible that a pro did this and the trail leads either nowhere or to some internet Lee Harvey?
It looked to me more like someone went to the Wile E. Coyote School of Acme Bomb Making.
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One dark-horse theory that’s been running in my mind is the “Russian hackers”.
The only reasonable analysis of them or their goals I’ve seen has been that they’re not looking to actually change the outcome of any elections, and don’t even hope they actually could. Instead, they’re just trying to stir the pot, and actually have the act of their fake news, “hacking”, or trolling on social media be the event itself. To increase tensions, get Congress, the DOJ, and the Media to chase their tails with investigations, and have both sides think the other is delegitimized because their opponents profit from the interference.
So the completely oddball way the devices are incomplete or fake, and had misleading packaging that seemed to create easy detection and interception, and the selection of targets could actually be a psy-ops attack on “both sides” in American politics. And whoever did this is figuring (correctly) that both sides will see what they want to see. The Right thinks it’s an obvious false-flag attempt by someone on the Left. The Left thinks it’s an attempt, either real, or a hoax/scare by someone on the Right. The MSM-Left has an opportunity to make hay about “Right wing hatred”. And the Right can then complain about the increasingly incompetent and biased MSM.
There’s no real way to prove my theory, and you can’t prove a negative, but I think if no one is ever caught for this, that could be the biggest hint. Because one possible reason no one will be caught is that whoever sent these semi-fake devices used intelligence-service levels of fieldcraft to go undetected.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/37581/ny-times-publishes-trump-assassination-porn-thats-james-barrett
So when did these bombs show up? Tuesday? The Times must have solicited this story before that time. Such a contrast between the peace-loving Left, and the mad-bomber Right, yeah?
Also, is the Secret Service carrying Glocks now? I'm surprised the Secret Service agent in the story didn't thumb back the hammer on his Glock.
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Edited by author. Question asked and answered.
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Edited by author. Question asked and answered.
That's fine for you. What were the questions, and what are the answers?
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I watched part of a NYC news thing on the investigation on Fox News' Tube-o-U channel. Every single one of the comments thought the bombings were a false flag.
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"... I'm surprised the Secret Service agent in the story didn't thumb back the hammer on his Glock."
I gotta remember that one.
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It was probably Putin. :D
Not much information being provided. We don't even know if the bombs were real.
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It was probably Putin. :D
Not much information being provided. We don't even know if the bombs were real.
Actually, as more information is coming out it is becoming more evident that they weren't real. As in, they had real components, but they weren't assembled in such a way that they would actually have gone Boom.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/37581/ny-times-publishes-trump-assassination-porn-thats-james-barrett
So when did these bombs show up? Tuesday? The Times must have solicited this story before that time. Such a contrast between the peace-loving Left, and the mad-bomber Right, yeah?
Also, is the Secret Service carrying Glocks now? I'm surprised the Secret Service agent in the story didn't thumb back the hammer on his Glock.
He would have to take the safety off first....
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He would have to take the safety off first....
The Glock, a plastic gun invisible to medical detectors, is the most popular service revolver among American police departments.
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https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/10/25/suspicious-packages-robert-de-niro-vp-joe-biden/
Sources tell CBS2 the devices are not rigged like a traditional package bomb. They had timers and batteries but never went off. Law enforcement officials were still uncertain whether the devices were poorly designed or never intended to cause physical harm. Either way, Commissioner O’Neil said Thursday investigators were treating the devices as if they’re real and dangerous.
Meanwhile, more security theater:
On Wednesday night, Cuomo called in the National Guard and doubled police presence around mass transit hubs as a precaution.
“I’ve been governor of New York for seven years, I’ve faced many terrorism situations, and this works on multiple levels. The first level is to do a full investigation. Let’s find the person or people involved,” he said Thursday morning. “Second, especially in New York, you want to retain a sense of control, you want people to know that you’re acting and you’re acting appropriately and they’re safe. Fear is the intent and we are trying to counter fear, so we’ve deployed National Guard, we doubled the state police, you’ll see more of a police presence in New York.”
Possible bombs have been delivered to a few carefully-selected locations by courier, so let's mobilize the National Guard to watch over mass transit hubs as a "precaution." I think the Governor's words describe the security theater aspect of this perfectly:
"you want to retain a sense of control, you want people to know that you’re acting ..."
Not control, mind you, but "a sense" (as in, the appearance) of control. As for making people feel safe? Such a misguided response to an unknown but clearly targeted threat can only work for people who don't have a brain but, since that describes a large segment of the population, it'll probably succeed.
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That's fine for you. What were the questions, and what are the answers?
I was wondering about the uncanceled stamps, and how a package gets stamps on it, but then delivered by a courier. In addition, reports heard today said these bombs went through the mail at some point ..... and postal sorting facilities are all on lookout for them.
Something isn't adding up right in base 10.
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Any goombah with a clipboard and a self-made "Sign for your package" form, can be a "courier", you don't even need a uniform as bicycle couriers are popular in major cities.
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The Glock, a plastic gun invisible to medical detectors, is the most popular service revolver among American police departments.
That sentence is perfect. Grammatically correct and sounds reasonable to people who don't know it's wrong in every detail. You should write for CNN or the Times.
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Interesting question.
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Two more today. Add James Clapper and ol' Spartacus himself to the list.
It also appears that the bombs were incapable of going kaboom.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/26/adam-housley-explains-law-enforcements-semantics-on-the-delivered-devices/
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MSM insinuation is that all signs point to Florida, or possibly a couple of other states. Of course anyone can drive to Florida, and it looks like most everything in the "bombs" could be acquired at a local Walmart, so the perpetrator could have flown there as well to assemble and mail them.
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CNN is reporting that an arrest has been made in FL.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/26/very-good-news-cnn-feds-have-arrested-suspect-in-connection-with-suspicious-packages/
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I think that the distinction between "poorly designed and couldn't work" and "designed not to explode" is going to be pretty important vis a' vis motive. I'm not willing yet to opine on idiot conservative vs. idiot liberal false flag, but that distinction would clarify quite a bit.
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CNN is reporting that an arrest has been made in FL.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/26/very-good-news-cnn-feds-have-arrested-suspect-in-connection-with-suspicious-packages/
And now it gets interesting as the suspect's background is dug into (if they indeed have the right person).
Between this and the migrant army and timing, my tinfoil is still firmly in place. I appear to be in a minority in that regard. I saw that conservative outlets - even places like Twitchy - were severely chiding people who brought up the possibility of "false flag" on the "bombs".
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The sheer number of stickers all over his van already screams nutjob, of whatever variety he turns out to be. (Left or right.)
Another SHOCKER: He has a history of "terroristic threats."
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Between this and the migrant army and timing, my tinfoil is still firmly in place. I appear to be in a minority in that regard. I saw that conservative outlets - even places like Twitchy - were severely chiding people who brought up the possibility of "false flag" on the "bombs".
Can I enlist in your minority?
How many of us does it take to make us a majority? (Or can we be satisfied with a plurality?)
To don another layer of tinfoil: IF they have the right guy, it does appear that he's a right wing nut job. They are claiming that they found him through DNA evidence. To do that, they had to have a sample of his DNA in a file somewhere. How/why did they conveniently happen to have his DNA on file? My spidey sense is tingling -- what if this is some low-intellect, right wing type who was led on by an FBI (or other .gov) plant, who will now conveniently disappear and leave this guy to take the fall?
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To don another layer of tinfoil: IF they have the right guy, it does appear that he's a right wing nut job. They are claiming that they found him through DNA evidence. To do that, they had to have a sample of his DNA in a file somewhere. How/why did they conveniently happen to have his DNA on file? My spidey sense is tingling -- what if this is some low-intellect, right wing type who was led on by an FBI (or other .gov) plant, who will now conveniently disappear and leave this guy to take the fall?
It looks like NY retains a person's DNA upon conviction. This guy might have had a record. I think Occam's Razor can be applied here.
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It looks like NY retains a person's DNA upon conviction. This guy might have had a record. I think Occam's Razor can be applied here.
Hmmm ...
Weaver, Randy ...
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And now it gets interesting as the suspect's background is dug into (if they indeed have the right person).
Between this and the migrant army and timing, my tinfoil is still firmly in place. I appear to be in a minority in that regard. I saw that conservative outlets - even places like Twitchy - were severely chiding people who brought up the possibility of "false flag" on the "bombs".
Not to be guilty of "stolen credit," but I believe I am a Charter Member of the Tinfoil Hat Club, if not the Founding Member. However, the paranoia itself has caused me to keep that information under wraps.
In other words, Ben and Hawkmoon, "Welcome to the club."
My further supposition is that it is easy to marginalize or dismiss an opposition position simply by calling it paranoia or tin-foil-hattery.
Terry, 230RN
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However, the paranoia itself has caused me to keep that information under wraps.
Reynolds?
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Reynolds?
Reynolds? That name brand bushwa? Just say no Big Foil. Store brand, bro.
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Republican history from what I have read on the guy... Damnit
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Well, the Left should be happy and content. They finally got their Right Wing Nutjob that they have been lusting after seeing as every other horrid act since, well, decades has been Democrats. If the Rs were smart (cough cough) they'd say that since none of the "bombs" were capable of actually blowing up, they weren't bombs, and that it was all just a joke and how do you like it. (snicker).
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Either way, the idiot hurt the conservatives with these acts of idiocy. Thank God they didn't go off or it would be even worse for us.
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I don't see how this hurts.
He's obviously crazy and if the Dems run with this and try to conflate this guy with Reps or conservatives or Trump supporters in general they will look like fools.
Not that the risk of that has ever stopped them before...
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Not to be guilty of "stolen credit," but I believe I am a Charter Member of the Tinfoil Hat Club, if not the Founding Member. However, the paranoia itself has caused me to keep that information under wraps.
Remember: "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me."
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And just what percentage of the voting population can possibly be motivated to change their vote based on this.
If you're pro-R, or pro-Trump you're not shifting.
If you're pro-D or anti-Trump you're not shifting.
How many fence sitters are there? And how many of them would be tipped to the anti-Trump side by this episode?
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Even if they were bombs it doesn't mean that George Soros didn't pay the Russians to brain wash this guy into doing it and the "courier" was probably his FBI Deep State handler.
[tinfoil] =D :laugh:
I was gonna try to weave in Obama's birth certificate but I'm still pretty new at this. :P
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Well, I guess I didn't need the tinfoil. The "right wing nutjob" stuff came out while I was driving home today, so I just now read up on this guy. Dammit. Even if it doesn't sway voting much, it's certainly giving the left a ton of material for 24/7 "conservatives are evil" stuff in the MSM (nevermind congressional baseball games with actual violence vs fake bombs). We always seem to end up with a "ten to one" ratio with this stuff. It's going to take ten nutball lefty whackjobs to cancel out this one right wing nutjob.
Somebody needs to take this *expletive deleted*hole out back and shoot him. Idiot.
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Somebody needs to take this *expletive deleted*hole out back and shoot him. Idiot.
Nah; lock him up in solitary. No news. In a couple weeks, let slip that the Democrats swept the election because of him. If he's still alive in November 2019, tell him the Republican party is dead at the Federal level because people still remember his stunt.
Broadcast his reactions so we can see the real truth.
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He is an odd one.
He is Filipino but has identified as Native American in the past.
Male stripper and male stripper choreographer.
Pumped iron and has a history of steroid use.
Not your typical Republican but did register as one in March ‘16
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I had seen he flipped Republican after Bernie got shafted. But it's early and there's a lot of this that and the other, will take some time for actual story to come out. And dear gods that van. I swear if I was a conspiracy nut I'd say it was too damned obvious.
Regardless the key difference that'll be lost is that, setting aside conspiracy and he actually is a die hard Trump loving sort, and unlike when leftists get violent, is that the right will condemn him. But it'll be ignored, or not strong enough,or some other such nonsense.
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We'll be painted with a broad brush. "All Trump supporters are (potential) terrorists."
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We'll be painted with a broad brush. "All Trump supporters are (potential) terrorists."
From elsewhere:
I believe @NancyPelosi’s exact words were “How DARE anyone blame us for the actions of one mentally sick individual.”
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From Ben Shapiro:
Crazy person attacks Republican Congresspeople: blame the crazy.
Crazy person sends bombs to Democrats: blame the Republicans.
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From Ben Shapiro:
Crazy person attacks Republican Congresspeople: blame the crazy.
Crazy person sends bombs to Democrats: blame the Republicans.
That about sums it up.
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We'll be painted with a broad brush. "All Trump supporters are (potential) terrorists."
Has that not already happened? Or was it previously limited to NRA members?
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I have seen several references to Trump Jr.'s wife getting a white powder envelop in the mail. I have seen others remind Twitter bots about the assassination attempt at the baseball field. Twitter isn't representative, but the lefties wasted no time in trying to blame all Republicans.
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Up until this event I thought the Republicans had a very slim chance of retaining the majority in the House. Most likely, this nutjob has destroyed that slim chance. Whatever number of emotion-based voters that were weakly leaning Republican are now firmly back in the Democrat camp, and the Democrats will definitely take the House.
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Has that not already happened? Or was it previously limited to NRA members?
No, it also included Christians. (Or maybe it was only Christians who are also NRA members?) You know, the deplorables who cling to their guns and religion. But wait -- when Obama said that, he said "guns or religion," so I guess we don't have to be NRA members to be deplorables. But it probably helps.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/package-bomb-suspect-told-colleagues-everything-that-wasnt-white-didnt-belong-in-the-world-former-boss
He also did not like his former boss, a lesbian, making it a point to tell her that she was a mistake by God and would burn in Hell. If one of my employees did that, they would soon not be an employee, based on creating a hostile work environment.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/package-bomb-suspect-told-colleagues-everything-that-wasnt-white-didnt-belong-in-the-world-former-boss
He also did not like his former boss, a lesbian, making it a point to tell her that she was a mistake by God and would burn in Hell. If one of my employees did that, they would soon not be an employee, based on creating a hostile work environment.
10 woke points for Millcreek.
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Hmmmm. Busted for illegal possession of anabolic steriods. I wonder if that had anything to do with him going completely BSC ??
Although from reading his rapsheet, going completely BSC was a very short trip for him.
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Up until this event I thought the Republicans had a very slim chance of retaining the majority in the House. Most likely, this nutjob has destroyed that slim chance. Whatever number of emotion-based voters that were weakly leaning Republican are now firmly back in the Democrat camp, and the Democrats will definitely take the House.
Gee, what a pessimist. I don't think this has changed a thing.
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I’m with TommyGunn. People have largely made up their minds and one whacko will do little to change that.
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I’m with TommyGunn. People have largely made up their minds and one more whacko will do little to change that.
FTFY.
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10 woke points for Millcreek.
Umm no, if someone creates problems at work that have nothing to do with another's work performance, then bye.
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I took it at as a poke at his virtue signaling.
Safe to say none of the regulars here would tolerate such talk in the workplace.
That talk is for the internet where it is documented and retained by the NSA for ever.
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I took it at as a poke at his virtue signaling.
Shouldn't you be working on your manifesto in your isolated Montana cabin?
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Gee, what a pessimist. I don't think this has changed a thing.
If anything I am even more disgusted with the D.s.
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I took it at as a poke at his virtue signaling.
Safe to say none of the regulars here would tolerate such talk in the workplace.
That talk is for the internet where it is documented and retained by the NSA for ever.
Something like that. The victim class are holy, and the faithful are eager to pledge their devotion.
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Something like that. The victim class are holy, and the faithful are eager to pledge their devotion.
Surprising as it may be, many of us just don't have a problem with gay people. Perhaps you can discuss your beliefs with Mr. Sayoc, who will no doubt like having a pen pal while he is in Federal prison.
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Surprising as it may be, many of us just don't have a problem with gay people. Perhaps you can discuss your beliefs with Mr. Sayoc, who will no doubt like having a pen pal while he is in Federal prison.
I think you're either reaching too far or seeing some anti gay bias that isn't there.
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I think you're either reaching too far or seeing some anti gay bias that isn't there.
I am sure Fistful is a friend to all kittens, puppies and LGTBQ people. We should strive to be like him.
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Well, this is silly. Millcreek, I awarded you "woke points" because you made a point of telling us all how you would have punished the bad man. As Ron pointed out, it seems like gratuitous virtue-signalling, and I very mildly teased you about it. What, did you think I was sticking up for the guy?
Surprising as it may be, many of us just don't have a problem with gay people. Perhaps you can discuss your beliefs with Mr. Sayoc, who will no doubt like having a pen pal while he is in Federal prison.
Really? You mean there are people who "don't have a problem" with homosexuality, and like to discuss their beliefs all over the internet, and load down TV shows and movies with homosexual characters, and put rainbows everywhere? Yeah, I noticed. That's why it goes without saying that you'd fire the guy.
For the record, I have neither a bias against, nor a "problem with gay people." I have simply continued to believe (by and large) what most Americans believed about homosexuality when I was a child, and I have seen no reason to change that. It is neither a bias, nor a "problem" that I have. It is simply a normal, traditional point of view.
I hope that helps explain things.
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Just shut up and bake the damn cake Fistful.
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I am sure Fistful is a friend to all kittens, puppies and LGTBQ people. We should strive to be like him.
Millcreek supports using the force of government to impose the redefinition of family and marriage upon all of society and somehow fistful is the radical one for questioning the wisdom of such top down pronouncements.
Of course Millcreek can probably pull a “scientifically” done meta analysis done by “scientists” out of his fourth point of contact proving that lgbt relationships are exactly the same or superior to heterosexual couplings.
The hubris of performing such a massive society wide experiment upon pretty much the whole of the western world with zero regard for the unknown unintended consequences is mind boggling.
What has occurred isn’t tolerance, it’s social engineering.
Let’s tamper with civilizations foundational building block and see what happens!
Fools
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/uncancelled-stamps-mail-bombs/
Huh. So it is not that unusual for mail to be delivered without the postage stamps being cancelled.
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Lets please remain polite here. For the record, I took "lesbian" in Millcreek's post as a placeholder. That could have been "Christian", "Jew", "gun owner", or "old white guy". I read it as keeping your contentious opinions out of the workplace.
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"What has occurred isn’t tolerance, it’s social engineering." (Ron)
This.^^^^^
The distressing thing about the notion of "celebrate diversity" is its reach beyond tolerance into social engineering. One can recognize that there are myriads of flavors of humans with respect to beliefs and physical appearance. The fact remains that there are still only two sexes with respect to humans; male and female, with the odd genetic mashup such as an hermaphrodite. That's reality. Beliefs held many times goes much further as we've seen and are experiencing. My beliefs accept the fact that it is civilized to acknowledge various beliefs. I don't have to agree with them though, insofar as I am able I should be tolerant of them. To have beliefs shoved down my throat including using the force of law is not acceptable and is patently wrong.
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My beliefs accept the fact that it is civilized to acknowledge various beliefs. I don't have to agree with them, though insofar as I am able, I should be tolerant of them. To have beliefs shoved down my throat including using the force of law is not acceptable and is patently wrong.
I used to believe that, and now we have "Bake the cake and throw me a parade, or else".
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"What has occurred isn’t tolerance, it’s social engineering." (Ron)
This.^^^^^
The distressing thing about the notion of "celebrate diversity" is its reach beyond tolerance into social engineering. One can recognize that there are myriads of flavors of humans with respect to beliefs and physical appearance. The fact remains that there are still only two sexes with respect to humans; male and female, with the odd genetic mashup such as an hermaphrodite. That's reality. Beliefs held many times goes much further as we've seen and are experiencing. My beliefs accept the fact that it is civilized to acknowledge various beliefs. I don't have to agree with them though, insofar as I am able I should be tolerant of them. To have beliefs shoved down my throat including using the force of law is not acceptable and is patently wrong.
I know what you mean by that last. But some of these idiots think any mention of contrary beliefs is "shoving it down their throat". They don't want tolerance, they want submission to their viewpoint. It bothers me that too many corporations and others seem to back up that view in their actions.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/uncancelled-stamps-mail-bombs/
Huh. So it is not that unusual for mail to be delivered without the postage stamps being cancelled.
Decades ago I worked in a mail room. No, it was not unusual to sometimes see a letter come in without postmark.
Which is not the whole question, re the supposed bombs.
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Decades ago I worked in a mail room. No, it was not unusual to sometimes see a letter come in without postmark.
Which is not the whole question, re the supposed bombs.
Interesting. However, have we seen pictures of any but the one?
Have any of you heard about the "explosive" used? Or maybe I should ask if any of the bombs were capable of exploding?
From what I have hearing, his social media was full on leftist a few weeks prior this and then it was all changed to look like a conservative. The stickers on the van were all new and not faded.
Yeah, I am suspicious. Don't know about conspiracy, but the guy seemed to be trying to craft an image of himself prior to mailing a bunch of "bombs".
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IIRC, one article referred to explosive as "an energetic sulfur compound."
Nothing more potent than BP comes to mind that would normally be described that way.
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Interesting. However, have we seen pictures of any but the one?
Have any of you heard about the "explosive" used? Or maybe I should ask if any of the bombs were capable of exploding?
From what I have hearing, his social media was full on leftist a few weeks prior this and then it was all changed to look like a conservative. The stickers on the van were all new and not faded.
Yeah, I am suspicious. Don't know about conspiracy, but the guy seemed to be trying to craft an image of himself prior to mailing a bunch of "bombs".
Source?
There are plenty of crazy conservatives in this world. Until I see something actually credible, I'm not going to pretend that the steroid addled bouncer/Part Time DJ came up with a master plan to hide his political leanings and fake Republican for this event. That would seem to be pretty impressive for a someone with his demonstrated level of success at life.
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I thought I saw somewhere that it was "re-purposed" from fireworks.
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"What has occurred isn’t tolerance, it’s social engineering." (Ron)
This.^^^^^
The distressing thing about the notion of "celebrate diversity" is its reach beyond tolerance into social engineering. One can recognize that there are myriads of flavors of humans with respect to beliefs and physical appearance. The fact remains that there are still only two sexes with respect to humans; male and female, with the odd genetic mashup such as an hermaphrodite. That's reality. Beliefs held many times goes much further as we've seen and are experiencing. My beliefs accept the fact that it is civilized to acknowledge various beliefs. I don't have to agree with them though, insofar as I am able I should be tolerant of them. To have beliefs shoved down my throat including using the force of law is not acceptable and is patently wrong.
Agreed. Tolerance means "tolerating." Tolerance does not have to include celebrating and rewarding, and it certainly doesn't have to include brainwashing to cause people with malleable minds (such as children) to think that they are or must be or should be something that they aren't. "Tolerating" means putting up with. I don't like broccoli, but when my late wife served broccoli I ate it. That's tolerance. I didn't go out of my way to seek out broccoli with every meal.
I believe that homosexuality is contrary to the Bible. I tolerate homosexuals if I am put in situations where/when I have to interact with them but I don't seek them out, and my tolerance does not extend (nor does it need to extend) to encouraging their lifestyle, or to changing my thinking to NOT believing that homosexuality is contrary to Scripture.
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Source?
There are plenty of crazy conservatives in this world. Until I see something actually credible, I'm not going to pretend that the steroid addled bouncer/Part Time DJ came up with a master plan to hide his political leanings and fake Republican for this event. That would seem to be pretty impressive for a someone with his demonstrated level of success at life.
I will have to keep an eye out. Something I heard, but no link. We will see. What I see on a quick search is just that he was a crazy chemtrails guy who didn't like socialists. I at least wouldn't call him conservative.
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I thought I saw somewhere that it was "re-purposed" from fireworks.
Then depending on what fireworks, it could be BP or simply flash powder.